Who is running and will continue to run XP / W2003 server

[eldinv]

I use XP mode on VMWare

Either that's a typo, or that would be EXTREMELY redundant.

You heard of XP mode on VirtualPC?

Well, I dumped VirtualPC because it ran slow and installed XP mode using VMWare.

Run XP Mode on Windows 7 Machines Without Hardware Virtualization - How-To Geek

 

[chev65]

XP is dead and buried for me, XP takes way to long to reinstall and I never liked XP much at all anyway, no offence to anyone still using it....

I just tore apart my last original P4 XP machine so I could use the old box for one of my still very useful dual core's that I had laying around. I have a new ASUS socket 775 DDR3-DDR2 combo board and some GSkill DDR3 coming in the mail today for that one. It's going to have Windows 7 Ultimate on it and it's going to be my garage machine .

After that I'm setting up my old Dell P4 machine to use Windows VAIL server software, I had to add a 250GB drive to that one because VAIL requires at least 160GB. Those were the last two XP machines I had but XP's time has come and gone,...it's time to move on.

 

[HerrKaLeun]

my current laptop and desktop are W7 Pro.

But I have an old laptop with broken screen hooked up to my TV. I use that to watch Netflix etc. and that has XP and probably will have till it dies. If I had to use it for real stuff, I sure would switch to 7.

at work (where I do most PC time and most complex work) we still have XP and I hate hate hate it. Probably more due the fact that my applicatiosn have 8 GB recommended and I'm tinkering around with a 32-bit system... Frequent crashes etc.

But at work I also needed to install all kind of goofy tools that are standard in W7 (screen capture etc.) and my desktop looks very cluttered without the fancy W7 task bar.

 

[Jacee]

and my desktop looks very cluttered without the fancy Windows 7 task bar.

Make a new folder (on your desktop) with sub-folders in it. Clear the 'clutter' and get organized

 

[wysiwyg]

I used XP from launchdate, until starting with the Beta of Seven, from that moment I knew XP for me was a dead duck, old hat, call it what you will, yes I had some software that didn't work, but its no good living in the past, bin it.

Theres plenty of excellent software on the market far in advance of the old stuff, maybe you can't afford it, but there is the freeware option in many fields.

No one really needs to be running old and unsupported software, its strange but I've found its the older silver surfer that is more up-to-date, than the younger ones, they seem to find it harder to accept change.

Odd very odd.

 

[DeaconFrost]

I use XP mode on VMWare

Either that's a typo, or that would be EXTREMELY redundant.

You heard of XP mode on VirtualPC?

Well, I dumped VirtualPC because it ran slow and installed XP mode using VMWare.

Run XP Mode on Windows 7 Machines Without Hardware Virtualization - How-To Geek

I don't think you are getting what I am asking. XP Mode IS a VM already...somewhat like VMWare. You don't need both to virtualize XP. If you want to virtualize XP, you can use XP Mode, assuming you have a compatable Windows 7 version. If you need to virtualize XP and other OSes, you'll need a full-blown VM app, like VMWare, VirtualPC, etc. You don't need both just to virtualize XP. VMWare shouldn't be entering the picture if you just want to have an XP VM on your existing system using XP Mode.

 

[brianzion]

i will keep a workstation wth xp pro running on a dell gx 520 its ideal for the guest room

 

[eldinv]

Either that's a typo, or that would be EXTREMELY redundant.

You heard of XP mode on VirtualPC?

Well, I dumped VirtualPC because it ran slow and installed XP mode using VMWare.

Run XP Mode on Windows 7 Machines Without Hardware Virtualization - How-To Geek

I don't think you are getting what I am asking. XP Mode IS a VM already...somewhat like VMWare. You don't need both to virtualize XP. If you want to virtualize XP, you can use XP Mode, assuming you have a compatable Windows 7 version. If you need to virtualize XP and other OSes, you'll need a full-blown VM app, like VMWare, VirtualPC, etc. You don't need both just to virtualize XP. VMWare shouldn't be entering the picture if you just want to have an XP VM on your existing system using XP Mode.

Wel,l I no longer have an XP Disk and key, so this is how I get to use XP. So I guess you misunderstood me, because it wouldn't make any sense to use it that way if I already had XP.

 

[DeaconFrost]

Wel,l I no longer have an XP Disk and key, so this is how I get to use XP. So I guess you misunderstood me, because it wouldn't make any sense to use it that way if I already had XP.

That's the benefit of XP Mode...that you don't need your own XP license...it gives you a fully functional copy. But my point was, to use XP Mode, you don't need/shouldn't need/shouldn't use VMWare. VMWare would be if you did have your own XP license to use, and also planned on using other OSes in VMs as well.

 

[Keiichi25]

Hi all
Just a little tiddly teaser to see as much as we like W7 on this Forum who is still going to continue to run XP or Windows 2003 server on at least ONE machine - Real or Virtual and roughly for how much longer.

I am running full time a Windows 2003 server and a Windows XP pro box both as Virtual Machines and will probably run them for at least the next TWO years.

I have some old but VERY useful hardware such as a Plotter and an Archtects blueprint producing printer for which the manufacturers no longer exist but it works perfectly on the XP / 2003 server Virtual Machines.

Similarly I have an old Firewire Agfa negative (35 MM ) film scanner -- have got 1000's of old negs I want to digitise, and several Minidisc recorders who need XP to transfer music to MD. I LIKE these MD recorders and I'm not going to bin them yet.

So for me XP / W2003 server is staying AROUND. I might consolodate the XP system so I only keep W2003 server but that box is also running a Web MySQL application and a proxy VPN so I can logon to it wherever I am overseas so can get "localised" restricted content.

So although a VERY happy W7 user XP for me (and the 2003 server which is essentially the server version of XP pro) is staying around for a while even if only on a virtual machine.

Interested to hear what others keeping XP for a while are running on these machines.

Cheers
jimbo

Well, I used to work for a company that had to maintain a Win95 box because the call center had this one call center program they just wouldn't let go of and it would only work on Windows 95. While you now have the ability to do virtualizing for XP and 2003, what will come to head will mostly be software support for it in the long run.

What I found even more funny is, for instance, as hardware changes, and keeping legacy hardware as mentioned above... The problems of eventually having to abandon those legacy hardware due to the fact that certain interfaces will be lost forever, namely the old serial and parallel port interfaces. Laptops use to have serial interfaces and nowadays, you need to get a USB adapter for it, but eventually those will be relics as well.

The one thing I know that will eventually nip you in the butt will be the eventual "can't resurrect it" due to lack of legacy hardware/interface capability that visualization can't make up for.

 

[eldinv]

Wel,l I no longer have an XP Disk and key, so this is how I get to use XP. So I guess you misunderstood me, because it wouldn't make any sense to use it that way if I already had XP.

That's the benefit of XP Mode...that you don't need your own XP license...it gives you a fully functional copy. But my point was, to use XP Mode, you don't need/shouldn't need/shouldn't use VMWare. VMWare would be if you did have your own XP license to use, and also planned on using other OSes in VMs as well.

It runs sluggish for me on VirtualPC, but when I use it in VMWare it runs great.

 

[DeaconFrost]

It runs sluggish for me on VirtualPC, but when I use it in VMWare it runs great.

So you swapped out VirtualPC, and converted/loaded the VM to a VMWare format. I see. that's all you had to say from the beginning. On a side note, if you were seeing a performance difference, you have another issue somewhere. I have two systems running XP Mode and both outperform VMWare and VirtualBox for a base XP install, if there is any difference between them. One system has Intel VT, and the other doesn't. In addition to the speed, you also give up the integration features that make XP Mode...well...XP Mode.

I can't tell you what to do, but if it was my system, I'd rather solve the issue and use XP Mode as intended, rather than frankenstein it.

 

[eldinv]

It runs sluggish for me on VirtualPC, but when I use it in VMWare it runs great.

So you swapped out VirtualPC, and converted/loaded the VM to a VMWare format. I see. that's all you had to say from the beginning. On a side note, if you were seeing a performance difference, you have another issue somewhere. I have two systems running XP Mode and both outperform VMWare and VirtualBox for a base XP install, if there is any difference between them. One system has Intel VT, and the other doesn't. In addition to the speed, you also give up the integration features that make XP Mode...well...XP Mode.

I can't tell you what to do, but if it was my system, I'd rather solve the issue and use XP Mode as intended, rather than frankenstein it.

So why was it so difficult for you to understand...LOL...Had you read the article in the link I sent, it would have made sense. Although, don't understand why it didn't at first.

In Linux there are many distros where the image has already been set up; (pre-installed) and you just have to add them to your virtualization program, and then your up and running. (Like XP mode)

 

[DeaconFrost]

So why was it so difficult for you to understand...LOL...Had you read the article in the link I sent, it would have made sense. Although, don't understand why it didn't at first.

Because I couldn't imagine why anyone would want to switch from an integrated product to something that's bulkier and slower. It also was confusing because I asked a few times, and it took a few replies to lay it out simply. I still don't understand the change, like I said, I'd rather work on figuring out why XP Mode wasn't running properly the way it was intended.

In Linux there are many distros where the image has already been set up; (pre-installed) and you just have to add them to your virtualization program, and then your up and running. (Like XP mode)

You seem to be under the impression I don't know much about virtualization. I know Linux distros are available this way, and so are tons of Windows setups as well. I'm not sure how that fits into our discussion though.

If you really want to see something impressive with virtualization, setup a server running ESXi 4.

 

[eldinv]

I'm not sure how that fits into our discussion though.

Very true, but you insisted.

Good luck,