why is W7 networking so different (in a bad way) to XP

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Right. First off i admit to not knowing a lot about networks but im sure this isnt right.
I have a wired network at home and on it i have a Popcornhour media streamer.
With XP as soon as the OS has loaded i can go to the Network browser on the PCH and it sees my work group and the PC and i can access my shared folders.
Same thing the other way around. If the PCH needs a re boot its all up and running agin within a min or so.
With W7 7068 i have to wait anything up to half hour before my PCH can see my work group.
Same router, static IP addresses and DHCP server turned off.

Any ideas guys? please keep it simple.

dave.
 

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Are you using Windows Firewall ?
If so, make sure the required ports are open... Seen this . . .
 

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No, im using Eset security as my FW but ive also tried it with no FW and still got the long delay.
Same FW settings as in XP.

Thanks

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Ok, does it get better if you disable IPV6 ?
 

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IPv6 is disabled already.
As none of my other devices use it i thought i would turn it off. i thought about turning it back on but as XP doesnt have it i doubt that will make a difference.

Thanks.

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Try disabling it via Registry.

Go to :
Hkey_Local_Machine\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\TCPIP6\Parameters
Create new "DWORD 32" and name it "DisabledComponents"
Make the value in Hex to "FF"
Reboot

Better now ?
 

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Thanks very much.
Im at work all day but will try it as soon as i can and report back.


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Just wanted to report no difference at all.

Thanks for trying.

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After two very long nights i really think the networking side of W7 is ****.
I've wasted so many hours and one min it works, then without doing anything it all stops working. re boot to XP and its all fine so i know its not a hardware issue.
I thought we were progressing but obviously not.

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Weird, cause my network comes up Really fast.
Too bad you hadn't solve your problem.~
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BTW, do you have the file share active or at least port 445 TCP/ UDP ??
 

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I guess i must have for it to work at all.
Ive had the firewall off (both Eset and windows) all security off (that i can find) and all sharing on.
40 mins it took at one point for my workgroup to show up on my streamer and still my W7 PC wasnt showing. This happens very frequently.
The streamer always shows up in network places straight away as a media streamer but i cant do anything with it.
last week it was showing as a storage device as well. Its running SMB server and i can access it via the command prompt but its been a good few days since i saw any other devices in network.
Also the Tcpip.sys is causing BSOD quite often now.

Im giving up on it now. Life is to short to waste time on this. I dont have one network issue with XP so for now ill keep to that.

Thanks for the help.

Dave.
 

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ok :(
 

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well......maybe ill give 7077 a quick look tonight :D
Ill give it a chance. Seems that networking is on the list of bug fixes so fingers crossed.

Dave.
 
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I will be waiting :)
 

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Me too. The most frustrating thing is there seems no way to predict when it will work. If it never worked then at least i would have a goal but when it works literally one hour and then the next its stopped working its harder to figure out.
But ill keep you posted.

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Well it seems to be working at last.
And im 99% sure its been down to Eset Security.
This is the one program thats always needed a reinstal. Even now on 7077 i had the same issues as above but once Eset was off its working properly.....for now.
Now i just need to find a new AV program.
 

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Go for AVG :)
 

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At the moment im having virus trouble (i have a thread going in another forum) so still working on that.
I think its clear but i seem to have broken Gadgets as they wont open.
Im going to try Nod32 first as i have a licence for that. Ill keep using the W7 Firewall for now. I will look in to AVG as ive used it in the past. I couldnt install it last night. It kept giving me errors but that was probably to do with the infection i had.
The network is all working though, so it was definitely to do with Eset Security and maybe 7068.

cheers.

Dave.
 

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