Solved Why won't my PC get past the splash screen when USB HDD is connected?

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Mobo: ASUS P8Z68-V LX, on the latest BIOS version. Eight USB 2.0 ports, two USB 3.0 ports. Intel i5-2500K LGA1155 CPU. 8GB of DDR3 RAM. Graphics card is NVIDIA GTS 8800 512, and I have a GTX 960 FTW on the way. Corsair CSX500 PSU.

Problem Drive Model: WDBHML0040HAL-NESN

- I ordered this 4TB WD Studio drive off eBay for $109, used. The drive was previously used on OS X, and I had planned to use it between both Windows 7, 10, and OS X 10 via dual boot.
- The PC boots regularly without the drive plugged in, but it hangs at the splash screen if the drive is connected in any of my 10 USB ports.
- I am unable to get into the BIOS with the drive connected, and if I enter the BIOS without it connected, the BIOS freezes once I do connect it.
- I have went into the BIOS, (with the device disconnected), and moved external drives to the lowest boot priority. This had no effect.
- The PC recognizes the drive if it is connected after boot. I can copy files to and from the drive flawlessly.
- When received, the drive was formatted with a 200MB EFI System partition in front, (I have no background knowledge on this), with the rest ~3.5TB being free HFS+ space.
- I immediately formatted the HFS+ partition and separated it into exFAT and NTFS.
- Deleting the EFI partition at command line had no effect.

Someone online said that this is due to the ASUS P8Z68 trying to boot from the drive, and to disable "Legacy USB Support" from the BIOS, but that to my knowledge means all USB devices are disabled, including keyboards. I am currently doing a FULL format of the drive, and will update the post as I try these solutions.

I am really at a dead end here, guys. Any help at all is appreciated.
 

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Hi itsmikerofl,

Welcome to Seven Forums.

IMO, you have some hard decisions to make.

1. I would never ever buy a used hard drive. It is more likely to be a defective drive and that is why the seller wants to find a gullible buyer to get rid of it.

2. I would never ever buy a hard drive with hardware encryption. It ( the hardware encryption) does not protect the data in anyway. It only locks out the user should the interface electronics with hardware encryption fails. In such an eventuality - which happens more often than not on WD drives - only WD authorised data recovery partners can recover the data with the decryption key provided exclusively to those partners by WD. And its going to cost a lot. Only if I am a millionaire, I wouldn't mind it.

Check whether you can return it to the seller and get back your money.

I shall not give any other solution. It is just not worth that effort.( I have made my research before writing this post)
 
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The 200 MB partition is causing the problem.

Please post a shot of Disk Management with this drive connected.

You`re just using it for storage, correct ?

The entire drive needs to be deleted down to unallocated space, then partitions made and formatted from your pc, it should not cause anymore issues.

Is this what you bought ?

http://www.walmart.com/ip/32501723?...82624832&wl4=&wl5=pla&wl6=78813328952&veh=sem
 

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First, let me thank you both for taking the time to assist me. Even if you do not get back to me in time I appreciate your effort. :geek:

@jumanji The seller had 100% feedback and did offer returns. So if there is a data problem I'm able to get my money back. But my problem is not data encryption, it is within the motherboard struggling to boot since it sees the drive as a boot drive, mistakenly.

@AddRAM I'm currently playing around with the BIOS options. With Legacy USB 3.0 Support turned off, the PC boots fine, but will not recognize the drive is connected post-boot. Same with general Legacy USB Boot (non-3.0). I need Legacy USB Support as I run other OS's off USB regularly.

I have attached a shot of Disk Management at the moment, with Legacy 3.0 support turned off, (so the drive will not be present). The top two drives are HFS+ drives used in OS X, that's why their info is not recognizable.

I will enable Legacy USB 3.0 Support and boot the PC with the drive disconnected, only connecting the drive post-boot. Give me two minutes.

EDIT: I am attaching a screenshot of Disk Management with the drive connected: it is G: Studio. And yes, to answer your question, that is what I'm using. I've already deleted all of the partitions, and booted it as unallocated space. From there, I created a single exFAT partition to be shared between OS's.
 

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Windows 7 x64, Windows 10 x64, OS X 10.10.2Intel i5-2500K LGA11558GB Corsair DDR3NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GTS 512, EVGA GTX 960 FTW
Computer type
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Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Custom Build
OS
Windows 7 x64, Windows 10 x64, OS X 10.10.2
CPU
Intel i5-2500K LGA1155
Motherboard
ASUS P8Z68-V LX
Memory
8GB Corsair DDR3
Graphics Card(s)
NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GTS 512, EVGA GTX 960 FTW
Hard Drives
64GB Kensington SSD
1TB WD Blue
4TB WD My Book Studio
Antivirus
Security Essentials
Since there is no data on it now, do an experiment. Delete it again to unallocated space, leave it that way and see if windows will bootup ok, then get back to us.
 

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Skylake Special #666
OS
Windows 10 Pro x64
CPU
Intel Core i7 6700K
Motherboard
Asus Sabertooth Z170 Mark 1
Memory
GSkill TridentZ RGB 16GB 3600 16-16-16-36
Graphics Card(s)
EVGA GTX 980 Ti SC x2
Sound Card
Realtek High Definition
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AOC G2460PG
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Hard Drives
Samsung 860 Pro 256GB, Seagate Barracuda 4TB x2
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Corsair H100i v2, Corsair ML120 x2, Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut
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Logitech G910 Orion Spectrum
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Verizon Fios Quantum Gateway 75/75
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Windows Defender, Malwarebytes Free 3.8.3
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Corsair SP120 x4, LG Blu-ray Drive, Durabrand HT-395 100 Watt Dolby Digital Amp, Corsair H2100 Wireless 7.1 Headset
After deleting the exFAT partition, and leaving the drive as unallocated, I also updated the WD SES Driver as well as the drive's firmware version both to the latest.

To my surprise, it booted with the drive connected. Would you recommend creating a fresh partition again? Or should I mess with the BIOS while I can?
 

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Windows 7 x64, Windows 10 x64, OS X 10.10.2Intel i5-2500K LGA11558GB Corsair DDR3NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GTS 512, EVGA GTX 960 FTW
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Custom Build
OS
Windows 7 x64, Windows 10 x64, OS X 10.10.2
CPU
Intel i5-2500K LGA1155
Motherboard
ASUS P8Z68-V LX
Memory
8GB Corsair DDR3
Graphics Card(s)
NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GTS 512, EVGA GTX 960 FTW
Hard Drives
64GB Kensington SSD
1TB WD Blue
4TB WD My Book Studio
Antivirus
Security Essentials
I would leave the bios alone, one step at a time :)

Now is the drive setup as GPT or MBR, I would set it up as MBR and chop it up into 3 or 4 partitions, if you are only storing data you could make them Logical, if not then Primary.

I know Partition Wizard will let you setup Logical partitions.

Try that and see if it boots up ok.
 

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OS
Windows 10 Pro x64
CPU
Intel Core i7 6700K
Motherboard
Asus Sabertooth Z170 Mark 1
Memory
GSkill TridentZ RGB 16GB 3600 16-16-16-36
Graphics Card(s)
EVGA GTX 980 Ti SC x2
Sound Card
Realtek High Definition
Monitor(s) Displays
AOC G2460PG
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1920 x 1080 144Hz
Hard Drives
Samsung 860 Pro 256GB, Seagate Barracuda 4TB x2
PSU
EVGA 1000 P2, EVGA White Custom Braided Cables
Case
Corsair Vengeance C70 Gunmetal Black
Cooling
Corsair H100i v2, Corsair ML120 x2, Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut
Keyboard
Logitech G910 Orion Spectrum
Mouse
Logitech G700s
Internet Speed
Verizon Fios Quantum Gateway 75/75
Antivirus
Windows Defender, Malwarebytes Free 3.8.3
Browser
Chrome
Other Info
Corsair SP120 x4, LG Blu-ray Drive, Durabrand HT-395 100 Watt Dolby Digital Amp, Corsair H2100 Wireless 7.1 Headset
It is set up as GPT. Is there an easy difference between the two? If so, advantages?

I did a little more testing and completely forgot that exFAT can't handle drives over 2TB, (the drive being 4TB). When formatted as NTFS, the dive being connected does not interrupt the boot process. This narrows it down to exFAT being the culprit.

I have formatted it accordingly as shown in the screenshot, so that no partition is over 2TB in size and I have a little room to play. Again, I can't stress enough how much help it is having another brain to bounce thoughts back to.
 

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Windows 7 x64, Windows 10 x64, OS X 10.10.2Intel i5-2500K LGA11558GB Corsair DDR3NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GTS 512, EVGA GTX 960 FTW
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Custom Build
OS
Windows 7 x64, Windows 10 x64, OS X 10.10.2
CPU
Intel i5-2500K LGA1155
Motherboard
ASUS P8Z68-V LX
Memory
8GB Corsair DDR3
Graphics Card(s)
NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GTS 512, EVGA GTX 960 FTW
Hard Drives
64GB Kensington SSD
1TB WD Blue
4TB WD My Book Studio
Antivirus
Security Essentials

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Windows 10 Pro x64Intel Core i7 6700KGSkill TridentZ RGB 16GB 3600 16-16-16-36EVGA GTX 980 Ti SC x2
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Skylake Special #666
OS
Windows 10 Pro x64
CPU
Intel Core i7 6700K
Motherboard
Asus Sabertooth Z170 Mark 1
Memory
GSkill TridentZ RGB 16GB 3600 16-16-16-36
Graphics Card(s)
EVGA GTX 980 Ti SC x2
Sound Card
Realtek High Definition
Monitor(s) Displays
AOC G2460PG
Screen Resolution
1920 x 1080 144Hz
Hard Drives
Samsung 860 Pro 256GB, Seagate Barracuda 4TB x2
PSU
EVGA 1000 P2, EVGA White Custom Braided Cables
Case
Corsair Vengeance C70 Gunmetal Black
Cooling
Corsair H100i v2, Corsair ML120 x2, Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut
Keyboard
Logitech G910 Orion Spectrum
Mouse
Logitech G700s
Internet Speed
Verizon Fios Quantum Gateway 75/75
Antivirus
Windows Defender, Malwarebytes Free 3.8.3
Browser
Chrome
Other Info
Corsair SP120 x4, LG Blu-ray Drive, Durabrand HT-395 100 Watt Dolby Digital Amp, Corsair H2100 Wireless 7.1 Headset
That's a lot more clear now. Thanks a million, you're a lifesaver. I can successfully go from Windows to OS X with this new drive, and transfer files to and from.

That marks this thread as closed.
 

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Windows 7 x64, Windows 10 x64, OS X 10.10.2Intel i5-2500K LGA11558GB Corsair DDR3NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GTS 512, EVGA GTX 960 FTW
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Custom Build
OS
Windows 7 x64, Windows 10 x64, OS X 10.10.2
CPU
Intel i5-2500K LGA1155
Motherboard
ASUS P8Z68-V LX
Memory
8GB Corsair DDR3
Graphics Card(s)
NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GTS 512, EVGA GTX 960 FTW
Hard Drives
64GB Kensington SSD
1TB WD Blue
4TB WD My Book Studio
Antivirus
Security Essentials
Excellent, Glad it worked out :D

You`ll have to mark the thread as solved, you can do it near the top of your 1st post.
 

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Windows 10 Pro x64Intel Core i7 6700KGSkill TridentZ RGB 16GB 3600 16-16-16-36EVGA GTX 980 Ti SC x2
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Skylake Special #666
OS
Windows 10 Pro x64
CPU
Intel Core i7 6700K
Motherboard
Asus Sabertooth Z170 Mark 1
Memory
GSkill TridentZ RGB 16GB 3600 16-16-16-36
Graphics Card(s)
EVGA GTX 980 Ti SC x2
Sound Card
Realtek High Definition
Monitor(s) Displays
AOC G2460PG
Screen Resolution
1920 x 1080 144Hz
Hard Drives
Samsung 860 Pro 256GB, Seagate Barracuda 4TB x2
PSU
EVGA 1000 P2, EVGA White Custom Braided Cables
Case
Corsair Vengeance C70 Gunmetal Black
Cooling
Corsair H100i v2, Corsair ML120 x2, Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut
Keyboard
Logitech G910 Orion Spectrum
Mouse
Logitech G700s
Internet Speed
Verizon Fios Quantum Gateway 75/75
Antivirus
Windows Defender, Malwarebytes Free 3.8.3
Browser
Chrome
Other Info
Corsair SP120 x4, LG Blu-ray Drive, Durabrand HT-395 100 Watt Dolby Digital Amp, Corsair H2100 Wireless 7.1 Headset
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