Win 10 From Win 7 Pro x64 - What Do I Gain - What Do I Lose

baumgrenze

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I struggled to install Win 7 Pro x64 about a year ago. I thought XP Pro was fine. I'm now glad I moved.

That said, I use a lot of 'legacy' software in compatibility mode, things that do what I want like PSE 6, Acrobat 8, and Office 2000. I use ZTreeWin many times a day.

What Do I Gain? What Do I Lose? Are there links where I should start, where I can see Win 10 screenshots, etc? Just how significant is the learning curve? Believe me, it gets harder after age 75.

My hardware seems to fit the MS specs.

Gigabyte EP35-DS3P (Intel P35 ATX) based custom machine by GamePC delivered March 2008
Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 (2.4 GHz) processor
8GB RAM (the max my MOBO will permit)
ATI Radeon HD 3870 graphics card with WDDM 1.1
My bus speed is 266 megahertz.

thanks
baumgrenze
 

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Win 7 Pro 64Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 (2.4 GHz) Quad Core2 x Crucial 4GB Kit (2GBx2) DDR2 CT2KIT25664A...Sapphire Radeon HD 3870 PCIe 512 Mb
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Custom built by GamePC/Solid Electric - Palo Alto - on 03/10/08
OS
Win 7 Pro 64
CPU
Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 (2.4 GHz) Quad Core
Motherboard
Gigabyte GA-P35-DS3P Intel P35 ATX (rev. 2.1)
Memory
2 x Crucial 4GB Kit (2GBx2) DDR2 CT2KIT25664AA800
Graphics Card(s)
Sapphire Radeon HD 3870 PCIe 512 Mb
Sound Card
RealTek audio on MOBO + EDIROL UA-1EX
Monitor(s) Displays
Samsung S24A450BW 24" LED monitor
Screen Resolution
1600 x 1200 at 75 Hz
Hard Drives
2 Crucial 128 Gb SSD (CT128M550SSD1)
one mounted and running Win7/Pro x64
one disconnected containing only Win10/Pro upgrade - in process
1 1TB WD Caviar Black (WD1003FZEX-00MK2A0) (Data drive)
1 2TB Seagate 2TB (PN/ 9JB1N3-576 - ST2000DM001-1ER
PSU
Seasonic S12-HT 650W 80% Efficiency Power Supply
Case
Lian Li PC-B25B
Cooling
Gigabyte Silent-Pipe
Keyboard
Dell MS Comfort
Mouse
HP x4000 wireless
Internet Speed
Sonic FTTN @ 23 Mbps
Antivirus
Avast
Browser
SeaMonkey
Other Info
BIOS: Award Software International, Inc. F6 06/18/2009

System Specs - Updated on 09//16/19
There is a Windows Ten sister forum that has tons of info on those kinds of issues:

Windows 10 News - Windows 10 Forums

Note: I put a direct link to the News subforum because the others won't be doing "real business" until Windows 10 is released. Then the problem solving starts.
 

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Windows 7 32 bitAMD 5200+ dual core2 GBNVidia GeForce 6150SE 128 MB
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
HP Media Center
OS
Windows 7 32 bit
CPU
AMD 5200+ dual core
Memory
2 GB
Graphics Card(s)
NVidia GeForce 6150SE 128 MB
Monitor(s) Displays
CRT
Screen Resolution
1280x1024
Hard Drives
500 GB Sata internal :

SIIG USB 3.0 docking stations w/WD Caviar Black 6 Gb/s drives
Keyboard
PS/2
Mouse
PS/2 Wheel Mouse
Other Info
SIIG USB 3.0 PCIexpress card.
Thank you for replying, MilesAhead.

Wow, it is "independent' that it requires another registration and account profile.

Do I commit the 'sin' of cross-posting if I resubmit my post there? I do not want to be offensive.

Your reply will tell me whether or not to open yet another account.

thanks

baumgrenze
 

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Win 7 Pro 64Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 (2.4 GHz) Quad Core2 x Crucial 4GB Kit (2GBx2) DDR2 CT2KIT25664A...Sapphire Radeon HD 3870 PCIe 512 Mb
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Custom built by GamePC/Solid Electric - Palo Alto - on 03/10/08
OS
Win 7 Pro 64
CPU
Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 (2.4 GHz) Quad Core
Motherboard
Gigabyte GA-P35-DS3P Intel P35 ATX (rev. 2.1)
Memory
2 x Crucial 4GB Kit (2GBx2) DDR2 CT2KIT25664AA800
Graphics Card(s)
Sapphire Radeon HD 3870 PCIe 512 Mb
Sound Card
RealTek audio on MOBO + EDIROL UA-1EX
Monitor(s) Displays
Samsung S24A450BW 24" LED monitor
Screen Resolution
1600 x 1200 at 75 Hz
Hard Drives
2 Crucial 128 Gb SSD (CT128M550SSD1)
one mounted and running Win7/Pro x64
one disconnected containing only Win10/Pro upgrade - in process
1 1TB WD Caviar Black (WD1003FZEX-00MK2A0) (Data drive)
1 2TB Seagate 2TB (PN/ 9JB1N3-576 - ST2000DM001-1ER
PSU
Seasonic S12-HT 650W 80% Efficiency Power Supply
Case
Lian Li PC-B25B
Cooling
Gigabyte Silent-Pipe
Keyboard
Dell MS Comfort
Mouse
HP x4000 wireless
Internet Speed
Sonic FTTN @ 23 Mbps
Antivirus
Avast
Browser
SeaMonkey
Other Info
BIOS: Award Software International, Inc. F6 06/18/2009

System Specs - Updated on 09//16/19
Hi,
If you have a spare hdd join the insiders program and install 10tp on it and see for your self how good it is and what programs you can install :)
Download Windows 10 Insider Preview ISO - Microsoft Windows
It would be the best way for you to evaluate it,
Disconnect all other drives during the install and your present install is unchanged
You have a year to decide.
 
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My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Win-7-Pro64bit 7-H-Prem-64biti7-5930K 2nd i9-9940x both water blocked VRM'...Trident-z 3200C14 2nd Trident-z 3600C16EVGA 1080ti ftw3 2nd Titan Xp both water blocked
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Custom assembled by me :}
OS
Win-7-Pro64bit 7-H-Prem-64bit
CPU
i7-5930K 2nd i9-9940x both water blocked VRM's too
Motherboard
ASUS SABERTOOTH X99 2nd ASUS x299 Apex
Memory
Trident-z 3200C14 2nd Trident-z 3600C16
Graphics Card(s)
EVGA 1080ti ftw3 2nd Titan Xp both water blocked
Sound Card
Built-in Realtek
Monitor(s) Displays
1-AOC G2460PG 24"G-Sync 144Hz/ 2nd 1-ASUS VG248QE 24" 144Hz
Screen Resolution
1920 x 1080 144Hz
Hard Drives
2-Samsung M.2 Evo & Evo Plus
2-Samsung 850 EVO 500GB SSD's/ 3-2.5 W.D. Black 1tb-&3-1tb/3-3.5 WD Black 1tb hdd's
PSU
EVGA SuperNOVA 1000-P2 2nd 1200-P2
Case
2-Corsair Obsidian Series 450D Black ATX Mid Tower
Cooling
Custom water loops
Keyboard
Logitech G710+/ 2nd Logitech G910
Mouse
2-RedDragon M901 Perdition 16400 dpi Gaming mouse = wired
Internet Speed
Comcast Ping 19ms 89.31mbps download speed 6.12mbps upload
Antivirus
Malwarebytes Pro/ Superantispyware Pro
Browser
FireFox & Pale moon
Other Info
2nd ASUS X299 Apex/Intel i9-9940x with Custom water loop/7H-Prem-x64/Corsair 450D case/Ram Trident-z 3600C16 4x8gb / Samsung970Evo plus 500gb SSD/Dual ssd EZ swap evo/PSU EVGA SuperNova 1200w-P2 80+Platinum/GPU Titan Xp /8-ML-140 on push-pull on 2-280GTX rads
Wow, it is "independent' that it requires another registration and account profile.

Do I commit the 'sin' of cross-posting if I resubmit my post there? I do not want to be offensive.

Your reply will tell me whether or not to open yet another account.

thanks

baumgrenze

You are free of sin by joining and cross posting, it is recommended actually since it's geared towards 10. :)

A lot of the same people are over there from here and our other sites, a lot of first hand knowledge too.
 

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Win 10 Pro x64Intel I5-2500K @3.3GHz16GB G.Skill Ripjaws X (4x4GB)EVGA GeForce 750 Ti SC 2GB
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Self Built
OS
Win 10 Pro x64
CPU
Intel I5-2500K @3.3GHz
Motherboard
Asrock P67 Extreme4
Memory
16GB G.Skill Ripjaws X (4x4GB)
Graphics Card(s)
EVGA GeForce 750 Ti SC 2GB
Sound Card
ASUS Xonar DG 5.1 Channels 24-bit 96KHz PCI Interface Sound
Monitor(s) Displays
auria eq2367
Screen Resolution
1920 x 1080
Hard Drives
250GB Samsung 850 EVO SSD
1TB WD Blue
1TB Hitachi
PSU
SeaSonic X 650W 80 Plus Gold
Case
Corsair Obsidian 750D
Cooling
Corsair H60, Three 140mm case fans
Keyboard
Logitech Wireless Keyboard K520
Mouse
Logitech Wireless Mouse M310
Internet Speed
Wave Broadband ~ 100 dn 5 up
Antivirus
Windows Defender, Malwarebytes Premium
Browser
Edge, IE11, Chrome
Other Info
Laptop specs: HP g7-1365dx /
CPU: AMD A6-3420M APU with Radeon(tm) HD Graphics /
RAM: Crucial 8Gb (2x4Gb) /
SSD: Crucial M4-CT128M4SSD2 ATA Device/ FW 000F /
GFX: AMD Radeon HD 6520G /
OS: Windows 10 Pro x64
Thank you ThrashZone.

Yes, when I moved from XP to Win 7 I was convinced I wanted to keep using RAID1 on my C:drive (OS and Programs) but others 'here' persuaded me it made no sense. That drive is available. I am on Win 7 Pro x64 and it and my program files are now compatible so I gather I should download the x64 version of Win 10.

I had rotator cuff surgery 2 weeks ago and my dominant arm is in a sling until 1 August (Swiss "Independence Day" or "Schweizerischen Bundesfeiertag") so I will probably wait a month before do the install and evaluation. Working the keyboard with my left hand only is tiring.

I installed Win 7 from an ISO on a thumb drive onto my other SSD. I will review my experience. It took a bit of doing. How much longer is the download link good? I thought I read that time is short.

If I try this, can I drag my program files from the drive now containing Win 7, or is the best path the careful re-installation of each program? That would certainly persuade me to wait.

Thanks for you patience in advance,

baumgrenze
 

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Win 7 Pro 64Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 (2.4 GHz) Quad Core2 x Crucial 4GB Kit (2GBx2) DDR2 CT2KIT25664A...Sapphire Radeon HD 3870 PCIe 512 Mb
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Custom built by GamePC/Solid Electric - Palo Alto - on 03/10/08
OS
Win 7 Pro 64
CPU
Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 (2.4 GHz) Quad Core
Motherboard
Gigabyte GA-P35-DS3P Intel P35 ATX (rev. 2.1)
Memory
2 x Crucial 4GB Kit (2GBx2) DDR2 CT2KIT25664AA800
Graphics Card(s)
Sapphire Radeon HD 3870 PCIe 512 Mb
Sound Card
RealTek audio on MOBO + EDIROL UA-1EX
Monitor(s) Displays
Samsung S24A450BW 24" LED monitor
Screen Resolution
1600 x 1200 at 75 Hz
Hard Drives
2 Crucial 128 Gb SSD (CT128M550SSD1)
one mounted and running Win7/Pro x64
one disconnected containing only Win10/Pro upgrade - in process
1 1TB WD Caviar Black (WD1003FZEX-00MK2A0) (Data drive)
1 2TB Seagate 2TB (PN/ 9JB1N3-576 - ST2000DM001-1ER
PSU
Seasonic S12-HT 650W 80% Efficiency Power Supply
Case
Lian Li PC-B25B
Cooling
Gigabyte Silent-Pipe
Keyboard
Dell MS Comfort
Mouse
HP x4000 wireless
Internet Speed
Sonic FTTN @ 23 Mbps
Antivirus
Avast
Browser
SeaMonkey
Other Info
BIOS: Award Software International, Inc. F6 06/18/2009

System Specs - Updated on 09//16/19
Hi,
As long as you join the insiders program soon is all that's needed now,
There's no telling how long the download for iso build 10130 will be good for but M$ will usually post a newer build to replace it

Upcoming changes to Windows 10 Insider Preview builds [UPDATED 6/22] | Blogging Windows

Another option would be to make a system image and upgrade your present install
Then your programs could be integrated with the upgrade or you'll see if there's a problem pretty quickly.

Make sure you use a reliable system image utility though
http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/73828-imaging-free-macrium.html
 

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Win-7-Pro64bit 7-H-Prem-64biti7-5930K 2nd i9-9940x both water blocked VRM'...Trident-z 3200C14 2nd Trident-z 3600C16EVGA 1080ti ftw3 2nd Titan Xp both water blocked
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Custom assembled by me :}
OS
Win-7-Pro64bit 7-H-Prem-64bit
CPU
i7-5930K 2nd i9-9940x both water blocked VRM's too
Motherboard
ASUS SABERTOOTH X99 2nd ASUS x299 Apex
Memory
Trident-z 3200C14 2nd Trident-z 3600C16
Graphics Card(s)
EVGA 1080ti ftw3 2nd Titan Xp both water blocked
Sound Card
Built-in Realtek
Monitor(s) Displays
1-AOC G2460PG 24"G-Sync 144Hz/ 2nd 1-ASUS VG248QE 24" 144Hz
Screen Resolution
1920 x 1080 144Hz
Hard Drives
2-Samsung M.2 Evo & Evo Plus
2-Samsung 850 EVO 500GB SSD's/ 3-2.5 W.D. Black 1tb-&3-1tb/3-3.5 WD Black 1tb hdd's
PSU
EVGA SuperNOVA 1000-P2 2nd 1200-P2
Case
2-Corsair Obsidian Series 450D Black ATX Mid Tower
Cooling
Custom water loops
Keyboard
Logitech G710+/ 2nd Logitech G910
Mouse
2-RedDragon M901 Perdition 16400 dpi Gaming mouse = wired
Internet Speed
Comcast Ping 19ms 89.31mbps download speed 6.12mbps upload
Antivirus
Malwarebytes Pro/ Superantispyware Pro
Browser
FireFox & Pale moon
Other Info
2nd ASUS X299 Apex/Intel i9-9940x with Custom water loop/7H-Prem-x64/Corsair 450D case/Ram Trident-z 3600C16 4x8gb / Samsung970Evo plus 500gb SSD/Dual ssd EZ swap evo/PSU EVGA SuperNova 1200w-P2 80+Platinum/GPU Titan Xp /8-ML-140 on push-pull on 2-280GTX rads
A lot of the same people are over there from here and our other sites, a lot of first hand knowledge too.

Yes, you can't escape us merely by registering on another Windows forum. :)
The W10 is having one build after another released right now. A good time to get in on the fun with minimal waiting. A great bunch of regulars there if I do say so immodestly myself.

:cool:
 

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Windows 7 32 bitAMD 5200+ dual core2 GBNVidia GeForce 6150SE 128 MB
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
HP Media Center
OS
Windows 7 32 bit
CPU
AMD 5200+ dual core
Memory
2 GB
Graphics Card(s)
NVidia GeForce 6150SE 128 MB
Monitor(s) Displays
CRT
Screen Resolution
1280x1024
Hard Drives
500 GB Sata internal :

SIIG USB 3.0 docking stations w/WD Caviar Black 6 Gb/s drives
Keyboard
PS/2
Mouse
PS/2 Wheel Mouse
Other Info
SIIG USB 3.0 PCIexpress card.
10 tp

The W10 TP Insider programme rules HAVE changed, as of build dated 2/7/15.
IF you want to use it you now have to have a windows logon identity, the local login route, NO PASSWORD has been discontinued, however the iso's for the previous build are still available.

Roy
 

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

W7 home premium 32bit/W7HP 64bit/w10 tp insid...E5300 dual core3gbNvidia Geforce 7100 Nforce 630i
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
medionl/Aspire 6930G/acer x55a
OS
W7 home premium 32bit/W7HP 64bit/w10 tp insider ring
CPU
E5300 dual core
Motherboard
medion MS7366
Memory
3gb
Graphics Card(s)
Nvidia Geforce 7100 Nforce 630i
Monitor(s) Displays
avixc
Internet Speed
n (isp resticted to 72)
Antivirus
mse/pands
Browser
palemoon
Other Info
Belkin Fd7050 n USB using Railink RT2870 drivers, more upto date
I'm in the same camp as the OP. Running Win7 x64 on my desktop with 8GB ram and a SSD I wonder exactly what Win10 would be bringing to the party - for me anyway.

Recently purchased a new laptop as the old one expired and yes, it came with Win8 installed. Promptly added ClassicShell and apart from the 'flat' GUI, I'm not impressed. There is no way of 'bombing' the new laptop back to 7 as the drivers are not available but I find the lack of options available to change different aspects of the UI to be frustrating. No doubt this is all part of keeping things minimal under the bonnet to shave a few nanoseconds off the load times here and there but in reality - for me - there is nothing that puts it head and shoulders above Win7.

Have been testing Win10 and as far as I'm concerned, it's really just another Win8. So no benefits for me although I'm sure that others will feel different. It's really a case of giving the thing a test drive, see if your programs and hardware are compatible and if there's anything else that sways you. All a personal decision.
 

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Win7 Home Premium x64, Linux Mint 14Intel i5 Sandy Bridge 1155 24008gb DDR3ATI 3870HD
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Self Build
OS
Win7 Home Premium x64, Linux Mint 14
CPU
Intel i5 Sandy Bridge 1155 2400
Motherboard
Gigabyte P67A-UD3-B3
Memory
8gb DDR3
Graphics Card(s)
ATI 3870HD
Sound Card
On board Realtek
Monitor(s) Displays
Asus VE278
Screen Resolution
1920x1080
Hard Drives
1 Kingston 128gb SSD
1 Samsung 500gb
1 Samsung 1000gb
PSU
650w
Case
Aztec
Cooling
Stock
Keyboard
Logitech USB
Mouse
Microsoft USB Optical
Internet Speed
2.0
Antivirus
Avast
Browser
Firefox
I've come to like the new Start menu in Win 10. Currently on build 10162 which is pretty close to what will be released on July 29th (RTM day).

I find Win 10 to be faster than 7 and 8.1 and it uses less resources. I run it in a Virtual Machine on my Lenovo K450 (i7 Quad 3.4 Ghz, 16GB ram, 250GB SSD) and on my Toshiba Laptop (Dual 2.0Ghz, 4GB ram, 128GB SSD). Both run very well and are rock solid.

I really, really like the changes made to the Command Prompt since I use it a lot.

I don't like or use any of the Apps but others do. I'm strictly a Desktop guy.
 

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Windows 10 Pro X64Intel Quad Core i7-4770 @ 3.4Ghz16.0GB PC3-12800 DDR3 SDRAM 1600 MHzIntel Integrated HD Graphics
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Lenovo IdeaCenter 450
OS
Windows 10 Pro X64
CPU
Intel Quad Core i7-4770 @ 3.4Ghz
Memory
16.0GB PC3-12800 DDR3 SDRAM 1600 MHz
Graphics Card(s)
Intel Integrated HD Graphics
Sound Card
Realtek HD Audio
Monitor(s) Displays
HP 22" LCD
Screen Resolution
1680 x 1050
Hard Drives
250GB Samsung EVO SATA-3 SSD
2TB Seagate ST2000DM001 SATA-2
1.5TB Seagate ST3150041AS SATA
Keyboard
Dell USB
Mouse
Lenovo USB
Internet Speed
Cable via Road Runner 3MB Upload, 30MB Download
Antivirus
Windows Defender, MBAM Pro, MBAE
Browser
Seamonkey
Other Info
UEFI/GPT
PLDS DVD-RW DH16AERSH
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