Win 7 boot problem

[Droopy]

It is very strange that Win 7 recovery environment cannot see and map any partition on HDD (when UBCD can).
Does BIOS see the disk (proper size and type) ?

not sure !
in Main menu, "IDE Primary/Master" is set on DVD, "SATA Port 1" is set to None and impossible to change/set it.
in Boot/Boot Device Priority menu, the 6th entry is PCI SCSI: WDC WD2500BEVS-2 that is the hard disk I think.

Using diskpart.exe one can see all partitions/volumes.
Start diskpart: (it opens own command prompt)
list disk - lists all disk

no fixed disk to display

list vol - lists all volumes

VOLUME 0 Ltr=D Type=DVD-ROM

select disk 0 - selects first disk
help - gives list of commands

Diskpart uses the lowest level of disk access.

Note:
The 32bit versions of command line tools bcdedit, bootsect, bcdboot can work also in a 64bit environment - MBR, PBR and BCD store (simple registry file) do not have 32/64 bit versions !
So if there is only a 32 bit Windows 7 Recovery CD by hand one could repair manually a 64 bit system.[/QUOTE]

 

[Droopy]

When using this method http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/93347-copy-paste-windows-recovery-console.html you don't have any drives without drive letters do you?

No only D: and X:

Using diskpart.exe one can see all partitions/volumes.
Start diskpart: (it opens own command prompt)
list disk - lists all disk
list vol - lists all volumes
select disk 0 - selects first disk
help - gives list of commands

Type diskpart at the command prompt and try the above and see if it finds your hard drive and volumes. Unlikly but try it. Type exit to exit diskpart and return to the command prompt.

see my previous message.

When you tried to load the driver did it give you an error or you just couldn't see any more drives othen than X: and D:?

I could see the USB key with downloaded and extracted driver.
Then I tried to select a driver in Floppy64 directory but it was not recognized as a valid driver file.

If using 64bit DVD/USB for recovery select the inf file in the Flopply64 folder or for 32bit DVD/USB use the Flopply32 folder.

 

[gregrocker]

Run the WD Data Lifeguard DOS bootable CD extended scan: HD Diagnostic

 

[Duzzy]

I could see the USB key with downloaded and extracted driver.
Then I tried to select a driver in Floppy64 directory but it was not recognized as a valid driver file.

You may have a corrupted file the only error I get is "The specified location does not contain information about your hardware."

I get this error only when I select any file other than the "jraid_f" file or when trying to load the Floppy32 "jraid_f" under a 64bit DVD.

I would try downloading it again and you can also try loading "Driver\AMD64\jraid_i.inf" or "Driver\x32\jraid_i.inf" and to cover everything theres also this one "\Application\jmide\jmide.inf".

Run the WD Data Lifeguard DOS bootable CD extended scan: HD Diagnostic

Probably recommend this too as we don't know the what caused this problem in the first place.

 

[Droopy]

It seems that loading the driver for the hard disk is the solution for my problem.
I succeeded in loading the driver, then the repair process signaled me a lot of corrupted file on C: that needed a CHKDSK.
I have a Win 7 32 bits DVD from work for the recovery and a Win 7 64 bits installed so I didn't try to go on further.
I will now search for my valid Win 7 DVD and will let you know if I can recover the Win 7 instllation.
Thanks a lot anyway for all the help until now.

 

[Duzzy]

No problem, let us know how it goes. If you can't find your copy after a couple of days the bcdboot cmd might get you back into windows where you can then run CHKDSK.

 

[Droopy]

It seems the old C: drive is badly corrupted.
Here is a DOS command screen copy of what I tried :

Microsoft Windows [version 6.1.7600]

X:\Sources>bootsect /nt60 all /force /mbr
Target volumes will be updated with BOOTMGR compatible bootcode.

C: (\\?\Volume{5fcaf437-5a2d-19e1-b556-d9850a2616b6})

Successfully updated FAT32 filesystem bootcode.

E: (\\?\Volume{5fcaf43b-5a2d-19e1-b556-d9850a2616b6})

Could not open the volume root directory:
ParamÞtre incorrect.

F: (\\?\Volume{5fcaf43e-5a2d-19e1-b556-d9850a2616b6})

Successfully updated NTFS filesystem bootcode.

G: (\\?\Volume{5fcaf440-5a2d-19e1-b556-d9850a2616b6})

Successfully updated NTFS filesystem bootcode.

\Device\HarddiskVolume4

Could not open the volume root directory:
ParamÞtre incorrect.

\??\PhysicalDrive0

Successfully updated disk bootcode.

\??\PhysicalDrive1

Successfully updated disk bootcode.

\??\PhysicalDrive2

Successfully updated disk bootcode.

Bootcode was successfully updated on at least one volume.

X:\Sources>bcdboot e:\windows
Échec lors de la tentative de copie des fichiers de démarrage.

X:\Sources>chkdsk e: /f /r /b
Le type du système de fichiers est NTFS.
Table de fichiers maîtres corrompue. Windows va tenter de récupérer la table
de fichiers maîtres du disque.
Windows ne peut pas récupérer la table de fichiers maîtres. Annulation de
CHKDSK.
Échec de transfert des messages de journal vers le journal d'événement avec
l'état 50.

It is in french but I think it is easily understandable for people like you that know these commands very well.
Though, please let me know if I can translate something.
The drives letters are as following:
C: USB key
D: DVD drive
E: previous Win 7 C: drive (the corrupted one)
F: WinRE !
G: previous Win 7 D:
X: boot drive
Are there any tool to fix the disk E: ?

 

[Duzzy]

First thing I would do is backup your data. If you need advice on options here just ask.

Then I would do the following quote if you havn't already. It may not be worth recovering the MFT if the drive has issues, it may corrupt again in a couple of hours.

Run the WD Data Lifeguard DOS bootable CD extended scan: HD Diagnostic

If Data Lifeguard doesn't report any errors then check this page Advanced NTFS Boot and MFT Repair - CGSecurity.

I only had a quick look, I really need to get to bed. I'll check it out a little more sometime when I get up or tomorrow depending on the time I have.


PS. Thank you for writing mainly in English but did you know Google has a reasonably good translater.

 

[Duzzy]

Thought I'd let you know that I have check out a few pages and only found one that has had success in repairing their MFT but the sofware they used was ICE ECC which I downloaded and was unable to follow their instructions, I don't know if the program had changed but it was a file recovery program more than anything.

I tested Teskdisk in WinPE, the 64bit failed to run using 64bit Win 7 DVD but the 32bit ran with the 32bit DVD. I tried to fix the MFT on my testing partition but it failed with the error "Failed to fix MFT mirror: write error". This could be because I don't have a corrupt MFT.

It looks like it might be easier to backup all your personal data and just reformat. After backing up your data I would suggest you test it on another computer as the files may be corrupted.

As for the error you got running "bcdboot e:\windows" it is more than likely because the default place to copy those file is the system partition identified by the firmware and as your booting from DVD I'm not 100% sure but the DVD would probably be the identified system partition. It could also be because of the corrupt MFT.

Now the rest of your drives are there you could try the /s parameter I described here http://www.sevenforums.com/installation-setup/213085-win-7-boot-problem-2.html#post1790591. If you don't have the 100mb System Reserve partition then you need to locate the \boot\bcd file and that will be your system partition.

 

[Droopy]

Sorry for the delay, I had to buy a backup device.
Now that I am ready for the backup, I cannot see the files on the old drive C: anymore.
Though, I can see the partition corresponding to this old drive C: in HDD tools.
Now, the files I can see on this drive are the files from the WinRE partition (with "boot", "tmp", ... directories and "bcd", "bootmgr", ... files)
I suppose it is due to a command I tried between the time I could see the files on my old C: drive and now.
Any idea how I can backup the files from this old C: drive ?

 

[Droopy]

Oooops I forgot to mention that in Knoppix, when I try to open the partition corresponding to old drive C:, I got the folowing error message:
"Incomplete multi sector transfer detected in $MFT."

 

[gregrocker]

Use the WIn7 DVD or System Repair Disk
to browse for the files: Copy & Paste - in Windows Recovery Console

If this fails use Paragon rescue disk; recover data

Drive letters can change in boot mode so check all partitions for your files and then copy and paste them to external.

 

[Duzzy]

If neither of gregrocker's suggestions work then other data recovery software might work as they use different methods to retrieve the data. As for what they are someone here may be able to suggest some or you can use Google to find them, I know Testdisk has some ability to recover data but it's not the easiest to use.

Please keep us posted on your progress and ask for any futher help you need.

 

[Droopy]

I will try tonight but I don't understand how first suggestion could work, how can I browse files if I don't have access to the disk ?
Anyway, thank you both of you again for the help

 

[Duzzy]

Now that I am ready for the backup, I cannot see the files on the old drive C: anymore.

So this no longer applies

The drives letters are as following:
C: USB key
D: DVD drive
E: previous Win 7 C: drive (the corrupted one)
F: WinRE !
G: previous Win 7 D:
X: boot drive
Are there any tool to fix the disk E: ?

Now, the files I can see on this drive are the files from the WinRE partition (with "boot", "tmp", ... directories and "bcd", "bootmgr", ... files)

Sounds like that was origanally the 100MB System Reserve partition, how big is it?
What are the names of the directories and what are a few of the files inside?

 

[Duzzy]

Doing it this way http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/93347-copy-paste-windows-recovery-console.html, remembering to load the driver, what are the drives you see now?

 

[Droopy]

Now that I am ready for the backup, I cannot see the files on the old drive C: anymore.

So this no longer applies

I meant that the old C: drive is visible in UBCD4Win or Knoppix but I cannot open it anymore (see the error message for Knoppix in my previous message)

The drives letters are as following:
C: USB key
D: DVD drive
E: previous Win 7 C: drive (the corrupted one)
F: WinRE !
G: previous Win 7 D:
X: boot drive
Are there any tool to fix the disk E: ?

I will update this tonight.

Now, the files I can see on this drive are the files from the WinRE partition (with "boot", "tmp", ... directories and "bcd", "bootmgr", ... files)

Sounds like that was origanally the 100MB System Reserve partition, how big is it?
What are the names of the directories and what are a few of the files inside?

If I remember well, it was about 4 GB but I will check tonight.

 

[Duzzy]

I meant that the old C: drive is visible in UBCD4Win or Knoppix but I cannot open it anymore (see the error message for Knoppix in my previous message)

Sounds like things are getting worse.

If you can't locate the drive in WinPE then maybe skip the first suggestion and try Rescue Kit Free Edition | PARAGON Software Group - free partition software, hard disk partitioning.

 

[Droopy]

Booting with the Win 7 DVD in repair mode, the drives letters are as following:
C: USB key
D: DVD drive
E: previous Win 7 C: drive (the old C: corrupted)
F: WinRE (3,45 GB free/8,99 GB)
G: previous Win 7 D:, still available
X: boot drive

I am trying Rescue Kit.

 

[Duzzy]

I will try tonight but I don't understand how first suggestion could work, how can I browse files if I don't have access to the disk ?

Booting with the Win 7 DVD in repair mode
E: previous Win 7 C: drive (the old C: corrupted)

To clear things up gregrockers first suggestion was to see if you could copy your personal data from E:, F:, and G: using the method here http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/93347-copy-paste-windows-recovery-console.html to your new backup drive after you loaded your driver, although I see your backup drive is not listed but I assume it wasn't connected or not partitioned and formatted.

If that is what you tried and you could see E: but could not open it, then that would mean

If this fails use Paragon rescue disk; recover data

Anyway hopefully Rescue Disk will work for you and once your personal data is safe then we can look at the MFT or bite the bullet and reformat.