Win7 RC1 - How long should an upgrade take?

[andys2]

I thought that BETA to RC upgrades werent recommended.

 

[Mark]

This is Vista to RC1 and Microsoft wants us to do this as it reflects what most people will do when its at RTM.

 

[andys2]

Exactly, how would we actually report that we couldn't install it in the first place?

 

[tamalero]

Exactly, how would we actually report that we couldn't install it in the first place?

well, we're already reporting problems !

 

[Mark]

The Data is sent to Microsoft Automatically during the install I beleive.

 

[sapphire]

I am currently doing a clean install on the laptop here, i had the update freeze issue from Vista Home prem Sp1 x64 to 7100 RC x64. I'll get back to the prosess later on. Currently formating harddrive.

I scratched the system and it seems to work fine from a clean boot. And the windows update was fast too.



My W7 Laptop:
Intel(r) Core(tm)2 Duo CPU T7700 @ 2,40GHz x 2
4Gb Ram

 

[andys2]

Well, I took a look at the official MS forums and it seems Win7 produces log files during the installation? If someone wants to try it now then it might be cool otherwise i'll do it tonight. Here's what the post said:

A likely cause of this is a device installation that is failing to return. You can provide a bit more detail to help pinpoint the issue:

1) What percentage is the "completing installation" at?
2) Analyze and/or post relavent sections of setup log files. Try the following:

• Press SHIFT-F10 during the "completing installation" screen, a command prompt opens
• Navigate and review the following log files (start at the end):
  • \windows\inf\setupapi.dev.log (shows current device installations)
  • \windows\panther\unattendgc\setupact.log (shows the current state of Setup)

If you're not getting anywhere with looking at the log files, post some of the suspicious/relevant information and it might shed more light on the issue.

Stephen Lodwick [MSFT]

 

[tamalero]

Well, I took a look at the official MS forums and it seems Win7 produces log files during the installation? If someone wants to try it now then it might be cool otherwise i'll do it tonight. Here's what the post said:

andy, I'm back to 4 GB and im gonna try again, ill check these tricks as well .

*edit* I meant 4 GB of ram lol x_X

 

[andys2]

Great! Guessing you mean 4 GBs? Try it with 8 GBs, i doubt RAM is the problem and if it is, i'm sure it'll show it in the logs! Let me know how it goes!

Thanks!

 

[tamalero]

Great! Guessing you mean 4 GBs? Try it with 8 GBs, i doubt RAM is the problem and if it is, i'm sure it'll show it in the logs! Let me know how it goes!

Thanks!

no no, you dont understand, I had 8 GB before and it didnt work, got the 62% problem all the time.

now.. I removed 2 of my sticks.. (got back to 4 GB or 2 x 2 Gb )
and seems it partially worked...
heres what I did.


1.- RESTORE ALL WINDOWS SERVICES TO ITS DEFAULT ( im a gamer, so I dont need a lot of these really dumb services lingering, so I usually have them disabled, so all the disabled were set to manual or automatic depending on their default setting)
2.- REMOVE 2 STICKS OF RAM ( total ram lowered to 4 GB )
3.- and now the interesting part... prior to today, there was no update for the RC installation program, today it downloaded something, I wonder if its something it let me get past this bug.

so I got past the 62%, went to 100%
unfortunately, after the first reboot, I got greeted by the dreaded BSOD.
the error was something like:

PAGE FAULT IN NON PAGED AREA
the file was like : LH1.sys or something similar, it was a 5 key word, unfortunately my computer is .. fast... and dumped the memory really fast.
it was a loop cycle, sometimes it dumps faster and sometimes slower (managed to get a glimpse of the error .. )
interestingly, going into SAFE MODE seems to run correctly until it detects that the installation hasnt been fully completed, and thus wants you to restart and try again the installation.
the attemp "fix your installation" also now appears inthe boot menu, unfortunately, it does the rollback and now fixing actually anything.


so Im pretty sure its either 1.- the mix betwen the 8GB of ram and the 3870 ( some users reported problems with some drivers of ATI and more than 4 GB of ram.. ) 2.- The Services set to default (I seriously dont think so ) 3.- or the extrange patch the setup downloaded before starting the installation.


in short words, yes, I Finally got past the 62% hang bug but got a BSOD after first restart.
I will try more in the weekend since I have to finish some university proyects for Friday.


*addenum*
after reviewing the setupapi.dev.log of my dir c:\windows
it says :
<<< Section end 2009/05/06 13:34:59.227
<<< [Exit status: SUCCESS]
I suppose this means everything went correctly this time on the dev point. (last hardware in the list was the sound device inside my Sapphire 3870 )

the last lines of the other Log files is:

2008-08-03 14:33:55, Info [oobeldr.exe] OrchestrateUpdateImageState: Updating image state from [IMAGE_STATE_UNDEPLOYABLE] --> [IMAGE_STATE_COMPLETE]
2008-08-03 14:33:55, Info [oobeldr.exe] OOBELdr.exe exiting with code [0x0]...
2008-08-03 14:33:55, Info [windeploy.exe] Process exited with exit code [0x0]
2008-08-03 14:33:55, Info [windeploy.exe] RunUserProvidedScript: Found script at [C:\Windows\Setup\Scripts\SetupComplete.cmd]; executing with UI hidden...
2008-08-03 14:34:19, Info [windeploy.exe] RunUserProvidedScript: Successfully executed script; (returned with exit code 0x0)
2008-08-03 14:34:19, Info [windeploy.exe] WinDeploy.exe exiting with code [0x0]

After this, I noticed that there are 2 residual directories that seems to not be removed or cleaned

1.- $Windows.~BT ( wich I suppose is the "upgrade 7 path"
2.-$UPGRADE.~OS ( the backup? )
the first weighing around 3 GB, and the second just 1 GB

I wonder if I should send the files or error logs to microsoft or something.
and before I forget. I wonder if theres more error.logs or something that could tell what file got the bsod.

 

[andys2]

Sounds interesting, i'm gonna run this tomorrow and see what results I get, going to leave my 8 gigs of RAM in though and see if it still gets stuck.

Thanks for this info!

 

[tamalero]

You know, I wonder if the guys of microsoft are collecting data here as well.

 

[vix2000]

vix, tell more about your hardware, we're discussing that issue of hanging in the "transfering files and programs" in this other post: http://www.sevenforums.com/installation-setup/8449-win7-rc1-how-long-should-upgrade-take-6.html

I got to 63% last night. the transfer files were on 366351 0f 474703 when the error occured but kept loading up to 373731 before finally hanging.

My first experience from dvd burn was the missing file error. Luckily I had the missing file on a eee7 download (which doesnt work either - dvd driver error!!!!) so I coppied th file into sources folder and have been installing from my hard drive. 3 times its gone to last stage then hangs with the memory error.

I have just started a new download and will burn to a disc and try installing from there.

From searching other forums it appears asus motherboards are most prone, dont know if thats true?

I have an asus s6fm with 2.5 gig ram and dual core 1.33 processor running vista 32 with 120 hd.

 

[Alejandro]

I popped in the disc last night and let it install for about 6 hours, Mine got to 72% on the 'transferring files and settings' then hung. There was some continual flickerings on my HDD, but it seems 'the lights are on, but nobody's home'.

I'm thinking its an incompatibility with some of my software or settings from my upgrade from Vista SP1 (I removed SP2 Beta first).

I'm just going to restore the older version (yes, I know I should dual partition/ clean install, but I'm getting too lazy to reinstall all of my software) and try to clean it up a little more before trying another upgrade later in the week.

Hopefully there'll be some updates from Microsoft sooner rather than later to rectify this as I'm sure there are a lot of 'strange' configurations out there (like mine) that the OS has to get used to recognising first.

Hope the rest of you are having better luck with it, as it does look to run pretty well (once installed of course!).

 

[andys2]

Well, looks like the Upgrade Advisor is released so maybe someone should run this and see what their PC gets.

I will run this when I get home and see if any problems arise.

Thanks!

 

[andys2]

So, I managed to run the Upgrade Advisor and apparently, I have no problems with the system or devices and the only problem it can detect is with Ultimate Features of Vista telling me that they don't exist anymore.

Might try to upgrade again tonight to Windows 7.

 

[andys2]

Well, tried again but it BSOD'd with some USB error although I couldn't read it in time. Not sure where to go from here really.

 

[Snufffed]

Maybe I missed what version of Win7 are you trying to upgrade?
unmod copy of Win7 RC only upgrades from 7077 to RC 7100.

So, recently I downloaded Win7 RC1 and the upgrade is doing alright except it's been upgrading for 17 hours and 20 mins, it's making very slowly progress with the last item .. switching the message at the bottom constantly between "Please Wait..." and "Transferring files, settings and programmes (395931 of 523838 transferred)"

That I do not understand.
upgrade should not take more than 2hrs max. the average should be much less. Some things you might have failed to do:
1. disable current Firewall or ( remove is recommended)
2. disable current AntiVirus or ( remove is recommended)
3. unplug all USB devices.
from the current OS, insert the DVD or select the uncompressed files for your HD (not the boot HD).

4. Recommend you insert the proper KEY when ask.

 

[Fernis]

From Vista to Windows 7 RC took about 90 minutes for the upgrade.

 

[andys2]

Maybe I missed what version of Win7 are you trying to upgrade?
unmod copy of Win7 RC only upgrades from 7077 to RC 7100.
That I do not understand.
upgrade should not take more than 2hrs max. the average should be much less. Some things you might have failed to do:
1. disable current Firewall or ( remove is recommended)
2. disable current AntiVirus or ( remove is recommended)
3. unplug all USB devices.
from the current OS, insert the DVD or select the uncompressed files for your HD (not the boot HD).

4. Recommend you insert the proper KEY when ask.

Microsofts 7100 RC1 build, I haven't tried disabling Windows Firewall and it's very difficult to disable AVG but I will try, all USB devices have been disconnected except the keyboard which is USB.

I'd love to enter the key but can't get to that stage.

During the second restart, it'll hang on the background image and say "driver_power_state_failure" but, if i reset the machine, it'll still continue with the installation, would this have an effect later on during the installation?