Windows 7 64 bit crashes.

[Snufffed]

Yes, your correct in all that you said. what I'm in reference to is:

Graphics Card 512mb XFX Geforce 9800GTX+ (Pcie) / Radeon 2600HD Pro (Pcie)

GForce and Radeon cards - together in Windows 7.
The possibility that the monitors will not work, 100% correctly together is the other. XP might be 100% ok, and you seem like you do not like Vista. Maybe Win7 will act more like Vista since it basically is the same.

 

[dook]

Yes, your correct in all that you said. what I'm in reference to is:


GForce and Radeon cards - together in Windows 7.
The possibility that the monitors will not work, 100% correctly together is the other. XP might be 100% ok, and you seem like you do not like Vista. Maybe Win7 will act more like Vista since it basically is the same.

No I love Vista, but it's disabled in vista, it litterally can't be done.

They've re-enabled it in 7.

In Vista, you can run 2 cards side by side as long as they are of the same build, ie 2 Geforce's or 2 Radeons (Not model, that's SLI, but actual brands - I used to run a geforce 7300 and a 6150 side by side in vista)

Now they've enabled it so you can use different cards completely together - they work perfectly.

 

[SquonkSC]

dook,

I don't know why we, myself included have kept on suggesting all these solutions while you have proven to me beyond doubt, there is clearly something wrong with utorrent.

If your system stays solid for 8 or 20 hrs and crashes each time you open utorrent it is pretty obvious one should think. lol

When I went to the doctor and said, doctor, every time I push my finger on my nose it hurts, he said: well, then don't push it. and I was cured.

Moral of the story. Don't use utorrent.

(or maybe find a version that works for you)

There are plenty of alternatives out there.

 

[chev65]

I like the looks of Chev65's tweak. Esp. since you are driving 2Gb x4. Bump up the northbridge voltage one notch and test. Also, make sure you have the latest uTorrent.

Regarding the PSU - I drive a CL 500. That doesn't mean I will never have a problem with it.

I'm not sure what cryptic reference means. The link I posted was from a month or two ago and it doesn't seem like malware to me. I'm really not too sure about how the point system works around here so I just won't worry about it anymore.

 

[dook]

dook,

I don't know why we, myself included have kept on suggesting all these solutions while you have proven to me beyond doubt, there is clearly something wrong with utorrent.

If your system stays solid for 8 or 20 hrs and crashes each time you open utorrent it is pretty obvious one should think. lol

When I went to the doctor and said, doctor, every time I push my finger on my nose it hurts, he said: well, then don't push it. and I was cured.

Moral of the story. Don't use utorrent.

(or maybe find a version that works for you)

There are plenty of alternatives out there.

Haha yeah man i'm coming up to 3 days uptime now. It's bye bye uTorrent. I do think people should be told about this on the forums because there must be plenty of other people with the same problem. Like i said the uTorrent forums have other cases of it there too.

But seriously thanks for everyones hard effort on this thread - there's been a phenominal response. I hope I've repped every one of you - I think I have.

Just hoping uTorrent address this problem ASAP as i can't really imagine using another torrent program!

 

[chev65]

haha I'm just very wary of upping the northbridge. I don't want to overclock at all, i know it's not massive, but anything above stock is overclocked and to be honest, Windows 7 should NOT require this. My CPU has a FSB of 1333 why would this need to be upped? My ram is only 800mhz...

I'm not twisting your arm to do anytihng here, it's just a proven suggestion that has worked for quite a few other people.

For what every reason certain systems with 4GB or more of memory require a bit of extra voltage to the NB. This was true before Windows 7 ever came out.

Many types of enthusiast boards need manual bios adjustment to run correctly. I'm not sure what board or brand you have but you can't expect every bios setting to be spot on from the factory.

Adding a bit of extra voltage to your chip set certainly will not destroy it.

It is also quite possible that you would need some manual bios adjustments when running 1333 FSB. In fact the Auto bios settings are often far from being correct.

You do realize that if you are using the Auto settings in bios there is a good chance that your board is already being overvolted? Not to mention it's very unlikely that any of the Auto memory settings are correct either.

PS I'm using the same build as you and I can assure you that Utorrent works perfectly with this build and all the other ones.

PSS, I find it interesting that you said this "I don't want to overclock at all, i know it's not massive, but anything above stock is overclocked and to be honest, Windows 7 should NOT require this." When in fact this link I posted proves exactly the opposite is true. http://www.sevenforums.com/general-discussion/14477-contast-bsods-3.html#post162766

PSSS, adding a very small amout of voltage to the NB is NOT considered overclocking in any way, shape, or form. In fact it's standard procedure with most any Motherboard worth owning.

 

[bigrcanada]

I think no one is really mentioning much about PSU as a possible source of all these issues. About a month and a half ago I had HUGE issues. Replaced EVERY piece of my system in almost every configuration possible with dozens of reinstalls. I had a fairly new thermal take 750W unit and thought nothing of it as it was under a year old. DUH! after almost 2 weeks and hundreds of bucks on switching hardware pieces...I decided on a whim to dump out my PSU...PRESTO! went to a Antec 850 and bingo...no issues. I have 6 different systems running in my office...and on 2 machines now i've found sensitivity to PSU issues. Take my word...its worth a try. Windows 7 rocks in IMHO, but it requires A+ source power. And like the OP'er, issues came out in certain apps in different times etc. I think certain apps may tax or address certain parts of the system and expose weeknesses. FYI...tried half dozen cooling devices thought that could be a problem...now Im actually OC'ing with stock cooling devices and works just fine after new PSU install.

Cheers,

BigR

 

[bigrcanada]

...I thought I read early on that the OP'r is running a 500W PSU?!? If that is the case that would be a major issue in Windows 7 x64. 2 V/C's and 4 monitors, all slots eaten up and lotso memory...500W PSU is not even close to enough, especially if its a OEM type unit and not a performance unit.

jmho,

bigR

 

[dook]

...I thought I read early on that the OP'r is running a 500W PSU?!? If that is the case that would be a major issue in Windows 7 x64. 2 V/C's and 4 monitors, all slots eaten up and lotso memory...500W PSU is not even close to enough, especially if its a OEM type unit and not a performance unit.

jmho,

bigR

It'a 550w.

The thing everyone seems to be ignoring here though is the fact i can run something like COD4 for hours, without problem.

my system is 100% stable I haven't had any crash or anything, since i stopped running uTorrent.

Litterally the computer acts perfectly, there's nothing at all wrong. It's fast, responsive etc. Just when i open uTorrent after a few minutes it freezes. "Burst" runs perfectly well as a torrent client.

It wont be my power supply because i can easily boot into XP and use uTorrent.

It's just a bug either in Windows 7 or the uTorrent software.

 

[chev65]

I agree, using an under powered PSU will also cause these types of problems. Utorrent is only a symptom of the real problem. Blaming Utorrent will get you no where because they aren't about to change the program because a few people are having problems with it.

Like I have said so many time's to no avail. Windows 7 puts more load on the chipset which requires a bit of extra voltage to perform correctly. Most likely dook, you will also see crashing if you attempt to move large files accross the network.

The actual "bug" is sitting behind the monitor.

Signing out of this thread, have fun dook.

 

[bigrcanada]

It could very well be that its Utorrent, but even running COD4, which I also run...doesn't mean Utorrent isn't "touching" something special and causing an issue. I had the same thing happen with another what I though benign app and everything else worked expect it! Networking intensive apps, like the previous poster stated, will be a recurring bug.

At this point...and considering that amount you've put into other hardware on your system its worth a try. Its like having a Porsche running with a 2 banger under the hood, it'll run on a 550W but that is by no means recommended, especially considering that is one area W7 is sensitive about.

...then of course, for what ever goofy reason it could be Utorrent on your machine?!?

Keep us posted.

BigR

 

[dook]

Well I've deicided to experiment a little, I saw that nvidia released some new graphics cards drivers. I updated mine to them and as a little test left uTorrent running.

uTorrent's been on now for about 5 hours with no crash.

So I'm at a loss.

550w is more than enough power though for my system. People go overboard with power supplies - you don't need half of what people suggest.

A good 550w is much better than a crap 800w.