Windows 7 alone using 36gb

[jwells10]

ok all i have on this 37gb drive is windows 7 but its useing 36gb, all my software and everything is on my external drive
ive tried CHKDSK, and defragmenting but Win7 is still using up 36gb on my main drive

and Yes ive virus scanned, Windows security essentials, AVG, McAfee,Spybot, Malwarebytes all of them came up with nothing

any ideas of what it could be?

 

[ttran]

Hi, It is a folder named old Windows (Window.old) taking up the space. It contains everything from you previous installation. If it is there, delete it.
Follow this article from step 19:
http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/3413-repair-install.html

Hope it's help

Tuan

 

[karlsnooks]

ok all i have on this 37gb drive is windows 7 but its useing 36gb, all my software and everything is on my external drive
ive tried CHKDSK, and defragmenting but Win7 is still using up 36gb on my main drive

and Yes ive virus scanned, Windows security essentials, AVG, McAfee,Spybot, Malwarebytes all of them came up with nothing

any ideas of what it could be?

Run Disk Cleanup


WIN key | type cleanup | ENTER key

Win key is the one with the wavy flag on it.

 

[jwells10]

Ive done everything you guys said, and it was a fresh install nothing else has ever been on the drive.
I did find the problem tho, my page file is system managed and it was having problems, its all fixed now : )

 

[jwells10]

ok all i have on this 37gb drive is windows 7 but its useing 36gb, all my software and everything is on my external drive
ive tried CHKDSK, and defragmenting but Win7 is still using up 36gb on my main drive

and Yes ive virus scanned, Windows security essentials, AVG, McAfee,Spybot, Malwarebytes all of them came up with nothing

any ideas of what it could be?

Run Disk Cleanup


WIN key | type cleanup | ENTER key

Win key is the one with the wavy flag on it.

Haha disk clean up was the first thing i did

 

[karlsnooks]

Ive done everything you guys said, and it was a fresh install nothing else has ever been on the drive.
I did find the problem tho, my page file is system managed and it was having problems, its all fixed now : )

Please be so kind as to explain. We're very inerested in how a system managed page file could have caused that problem.

 

[jwells10]

Ive done everything you guys said, and it was a fresh install nothing else has ever been on the drive.
I did find the problem tho, my page file is system managed and it was having problems, its all fixed now : )

Please be so kind as to explain. We're very inerested in how a system managed page file could have caused that problem.

The system was dedicating all the free space to the page file and there was alot lag in it everytime i did something, there was also a glitch i disabled my recycaling bin but it was sending everything there anyways

But changing the page file management to 2048MB has solved all the problems i was having

i also failed to mention this, but at first it was taking up 36gb, but for some reason my space was constantly fluctuating even tho i wasn't doing anything
It was going from 700MB free to 17GB free to 6MB free, ect ect

 

[karlsnooks]

jeweils,

This is Win 7 and not XP. Microsoft has learned much. Win 7 is a very finished product. You can only make things worse by tinkering with it.

Enjoy a fine and polished operating system.

All of the tweak and other products of that ilk and advice of that type can only do you harm.

Add-on products that the most of us use are CCleaner and Microsoft Security Essentials.

A big friend is the key combo WIN + F! for the windows help system and just type your question into the search box. Here is another area that has improved immensely over XP.

 

[cluberti]

How much RAM do you have in this system? If you've got 4GB or more, you can probably set the paging file to 512MB or less, or even disable it depending on what you do with your PC regularly.

 

[karlsnooks]

cluberti,

The XP days are gone. Win 7 is without equal at selecting the optimal pagefile for your system.

You can run with no PageFile but you will notice a different performance, regardless of the amount of ram.

 

[jwells10]

jeweils,

This is Win 7 and not XP. Microsoft has learned much. Win 7 is a very finished product. You can only make things worse by tinkering with it.

Enjoy a fine and polished operating system.

All of the tweak and other products of that ilk and advice of that type can only do you harm.

Add-on products that the most of us use are CCleaner and

A big friend is the key combo WIN + F! for the windows help system and just type your question into the search box. Here is another area that has improved immensely over XP.

I use CCleaner and Microsoft Security Essentials , and the reason I set it to 2048MB is because i only have 1GB or RAM
haha yes i know windows 7 is a very improved product i fell in love with it ever since the beta but my tinkering with a page file has fixed all my problems

 

[karlsnooks]

What I am saying is that your original tinkering was the source of this problem.

Have a nice day.

 

[jwells10]

How much RAM do you have in this system? If you've got 4GB or more, you can probably set the paging file to 512MB or less, or even disable it depending on what you do with your PC regularly.

Haha I use my Computer for AIM,Gaming and dabbling in the arts of cracking and Programming (not maliciously of course :3 )

 

[jwells10]

What I am saying is that your original tinkering was the source of this problem.

Have a nice day.

I dident tinker with it in the first place, i was having that problem after a clean install, my tinkering only fixed the problem : )

 

[cluberti]

cluberti,

The XP days are gone. Win 7 is without equal at selecting the optimal pagefile for your system.

You can run with no PageFile but you will notice a different performance, regardless of the amount of ram.

Indeed it does a decent job of creating a paging file based on the algorithms of paging=1.5x RAM at 1GB or less, paging=1x RAM at 2GB or more. However, the memory manager still has bias where if you provide it more paging file space, it'll use it more frequently. Yes, it is better than XP at keeping more data in RAM thanks to more efficient memory manager code, but that doesn't mean that code is entirely "better" or "fixed" - there's really no need to incur the overhead for paging to disk when it isn't necessary, and there are data collector sets one can use to figure out whether or not you're using a paging file or not under regular load, but that's a different thread altogether.

If this is something you want to chat about offline, let me know and we can do that. There are a whole host of things I would rather not post here as well so as not to sidetrack and hijack the thread further.

 

[cluberti]

What I am saying is that your original tinkering was the source of this problem.

Have a nice day.

I dident tinker with it in the first place, i was having that problem after a clean install, my tinkering only fixed the problem : )

You could very well have an application or driver making requests to reserve large amounts of virtual address space, but not committing them. Since (on Windows, anyway) any reservation of VA that isn't strictly memory-mapped must have a page in the paging file for every page in RAM, making large reservations can cause Windows to inaccurately increase the paging file to try and make sure that if those reservations are ever called on, it has the paging file to back it BEFORE then (so as not to take a huge perf hit if it has to back those reservations - it's much quicker to increase it in small amounts in a lazy fashion rather than attempt to extend the paging file all at once). I've seen it a few times where this happens due to buggy drivers (I've personally never seen user-land software do it, but I suppose it's possible), and manually fixing the paging file will "solve" it.

 

[jwells10]

What I am saying is that your original tinkering was the source of this problem.

Have a nice day.

I dident tinker with it in the first place, i was having that problem after a clean install, my tinkering only fixed the problem : )

You could very well have an application or driver making requests to reserve large amounts of virtual address space, but not committing them. Since (on Windows, anyway) any reservation of VA that isn't strictly memory-mapped must have a page in the paging file for every page in RAM, making large reservations can cause Windows to inaccurately increase the paging file to try and make sure that if those reservations are ever called on, it has the paging file to back it BEFORE then (so as not to take a huge perf hit if it has to back those reservations - it's much quicker to increase it in small amounts in a lazy fashion rather than attempt to extend the paging file all at once). I've seen it a few times where this happens due to buggy drivers (I've personally never seen user-land software do it, but I suppose it's possible), and manually fixing the paging file will "solve" it.

I looked and it dosent seem that a driver was responsible, from looking at memory logs and such ive found that the most likely culprits were Firefox and AIM, they both had an abnormally large memory load at the time

 

[cluberti]

Like I said, anything's possible - I've learned over the years never to rule out anything until you can actually test and rule it out as a potential suspect .

 

[jwells10]

Like I said, anything's possible - I've learned over the years never to rule out anything until you can actually test and rule it out as a potential suspect .

Haha yea : )