Windows 7 anti-malware products compared

Now you're being silly. The only time I recommend it, is when a different AV has been demonstrated to cause a BSOD. Fact ;)
 

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Now you're being silly. The only time I recommend it, is when a different AV has been demonstrated to cause a BSOD. Fact ;)

Objecting to recommending an inferior AV instead of finding why a certain AV is causing a BSOD or recommending another AV that won't cause BSODs without compromising security is silly?
 

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Corsair HX750w
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Antec Two Hundred v2 (modified)
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Thermaltake ToughPower QFan 750W
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Thermaltake Element S VK60001W2Z
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Corsair H60 Water Cooling, 2*230mm and 2*80mm case fans
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Logitech G110
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Logitech MX518
And there we go with the eyeroll.
 

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Asus Xonar Essence STX
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3x Asus VG248QE 24", Vizio 32" TV
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Samsung 128GB 840 Pro SSD (1),
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Corsair HX750w
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Antec Two Hundred v2 (modified)
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Cooler Master GeminII S524 120mm (fan replaced with a 140mm)
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Logitech G510s
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Logitech M525 (two in use)
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AVAST!, MBAM, SAS, Spybot S&D (all but MBAM free) Glary Util
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IE11
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Nvidia GeForce GTS 450; Intel HD Graphics 3000(GT2+)
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Dell Ultrasharp IPS panel U2311H, Samsung SyncMaster P2350
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1920x1080
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Samsung 850 Pro SSD 256GB, Samsung SSD 840 120GB, Seagates 1TB Barracuda ST31000528AS x2
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Seasonic M12II 520W
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Lian Li Lancool PC-K60
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Case: 1x120mm, 3x140mm CPU: Hyper 212+
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Logitech MK520 (wireless)
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Logitech MK520
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6-7 Mbps
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Norton Security Premium, Malwarebytes on 2 (MSE on 3rd PC)
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FireFox
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I'm with Jeannie. Microsoft never saw a good idea they wouldn't steal and then implement badly, take Bing for example. Whenever I sevice a machine "protected" by MSE, I remove it and install Avast. Compatibility is of no value if effectivness is absent.
 

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:roflmao:I don't dare hit anyone with my purse; the darned thing weighs 5 lb.! I actually have the kitchen sink in there. I got teased so much about having everything except the kitchen sink in it, I found a doll house kitchen sink to keep in for when people claimed I didn't.
 

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MSI R7850 Twin Frozr 2GD5/OC Radeon HD 7850 2GB 256-bit GDDR
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Asus Xonar Essence STX
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3x Asus VG248QE 24", Vizio 32" TV
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Samsung 128GB 840 Pro SSD (1),
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Corsair HX750w
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Antec Two Hundred v2 (modified)
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Cooler Master GeminII S524 120mm (fan replaced with a 140mm)
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Logitech G510s
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Logitech M525 (two in use)
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=< 32Mbps down, 8Mbps up
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AVAST!, MBAM, SAS, Spybot S&D (all but MBAM free) Glary Util
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IE11
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I have Avast installed on seven machines I manage. Not a problem on one.

I believe that a lot of system errors caused by AVs is due to the fact that they historically do not play nice together. It has always been well known that you should never run two 'full-time' AVs at once.
What I suspect happens in some cases is people do not completely clean their system to remove all traces of the old AV before installing a new AV - if they do any cleaning at all. And it is the conflicts caused by the remnant files that cause the system errors which of course get flagged to whichever AV is installed at the moment.
There are other ways a user could self inflict wounds too, which they do with other programs also at astounding regularity.

I restate my point: an organization that is selling certification badges to AV companies to display is fertile ground for back room deals and payoffs in order to get higher rankings. There is the possibility that MS told them to piss off and that is the entire reason the AV ranks so low. Avast and MSE rate much better in other AV tests.
 

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MS KC-0405
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Intellimouse 5-button
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Avast & Malwarebytes
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Firefox
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Asus DVD - DRW-24B1ST 24X
I see both sides of this. The BSOD point of view, and the ineffectiveness of MSE.

My argument is this, true you can have MSE and have system stability-until a virus comes along that MSE fails to detect and throws system instability out of the equation anyway.

OR

You could have a decent antivirus that actually catches the bad guys and does its main job. The best AV can only catch maybe 90% of malware. And thats on a good day. And that 10% is not 100's of threats, its millions. So you want to get something close that can actual sort of handle the job. So that is my reasoning.


True, avast is getting bloated, advertisements everywhere. Useless features that I am positive causes BSODS. And their most recently annoying introduction of grimefighter. (junk cleanware tool)

But avast is not the only option out there that's good. Their are paid and free suites that are fantastic. There is panda cloud antivirus which is free, light and offers no fancy bells or whistles. There is also bit defender free, which uses the same AV engine as their paid products.

On the other hand,

BSODS are bad, and can be a nuisance. Especially when a user is a novice and does not even know what a BSOD is. So that is bad too. And when you work in a BSOD forum, all your going to see is the negative side of the software, the software that is causing bsods. So its easy to quickly dismiss products as being bad and replacing them from something you have never seen cause a bsod-MSE. That thinking is Logical, but when it comes to PC security, its not a practical way to look at things.

I suggest that only geeks use MSE, as a normal user it would be very ineffective.

I have to say though, in all my time of fixing pcs and this and that, I have not seen a antivirus be the cause of the bsod. Normally it would point to it being the cause, but in reality it was factory bloatware or a old Remanent of mcafee (ICK) or notron (double ick) left on the system that did not fully uninstall, or was still installed.


Again though, every system is different, and there are more then a billion ways a computer can be configured. So one experience does not apply to everyone. Including BSOD issues ;)

I'm sorry, I still don't see the point of using something that doesn't do a good job of what it is supposed just because it consistently does no harm.
I'm supporting this point of view.

I couldn't agree more.


To sum up, as for the bickering of which AV is better: Only you and your system know. But it doesn't hurt to look at the results of labs-(or be your own lab and do tests on your own) and decide if what you have is really worth keeping and if its doing its job. Support the smaller av companies who are keeping their product clean and fast-focusing on protection, and not the big guys who focus more on features then protection.


My 2 cents.
 

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250mb down, 30mb up
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Panda Cloud Antivirus
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Chrome-ish x64
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Your awesome for reading this.
I too have always used Avast with no issues. IF it caused me BSOD, I'd likely completely remove it, then reinstall it first before changing. IF it then caused me BSOD, I'd switch...to Avira ;)

I would prefer better detection with some chance of BSOD, to poor protection because the chance supposedly doesn't exist. I also tend to think that people who have BSOD that point to Avast, have other issues as well. For our BSOD team, of course they have to point out the offending apps, but for an advanced user, they could likely find the other conflict and remove that if it was preferable.

I have no issue with people recommending MSE to the average user, as it is better they have some protection. It is the same as recommending the Windows firewall as opposed to a better firewall. Some firewall is better then none. And a firewall that is talkative and results in the user just allowing everything as a convenience isn't ideal.

A Guy
 

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LG 32MA68HY 32" IPS
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ANTEC TruePower New TP-550, 80 PLUS, 550W
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ANTEC Three Hundred Illusion
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COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus, 4 x 120mm 1 x 140mm Noctua's
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85 + Mbps
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Avast
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Vivaldi
Having taken the time to go to av-test.org and read the test results,
AV-TEST - The Independent IT-Security Institute: Jan/Feb 2014

I'm giving Panda Free a run. I've been happy with Avast, both for myself and my clients, but it rates lower on protection and the number of unnecessary crap pop-ups is increasing. Many of my clients are even older than I am, some in the early stages of dementia, some just a little overwhelmed. The more pop-ups, the more my phone rings (and no, I don't charge for those calls). I want EFFECTIVE AV that keeps its head down and mouth shut unless there's something important to say.
 

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Now you're being silly. The only time I recommend it, is when a different AV has been demonstrated to cause a BSOD. Fact ;)

You might not, but some do recommend it. Read post #12 of this thread.....
"and always suggest MSE as my first AV suggestion."

If a person wants to use such a poorly rated product for their own personal reasons they have every right to do so, but I would never knowingly advocate a product that is rated poorly by most or all the expert testers as is MSE.
 
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1 TB
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Ducky mechanical with PBT double shot keycaps.

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On board Realtek ALC898
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Corsair Obsidian 550D
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Standard 3 120mm case fans, Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO
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MS KC-0405
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Intellimouse 5-button
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Avast & Malwarebytes
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Firefox
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Employer provided Dell Latitude
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i7
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8GB
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Intel HD Graphics
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crappy SSD
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Employer mandated Symantec Endpoint Protection
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Pale Moon 64bit, IE11 64bit & Chrome 64bit
I run MSE. I run full scans every weekend before backups. It never finds anything. I run a full scan with MBAM, it doesn't find anything. I run AdwCleaner and it doesn't find anything. I run SuperAntiSpyware and it doesn't find anything. Once in a while, I'll run TDKiller and it doesn't find anything. So what am I missing here? As long as I get this kind of results, I'll keep using MSE and I'll keep recommending MSE. I see no reason to clutter my system with six or seven drivers running all the time from Avast, AVG, Norton, et. al. I think MSE uses two. MSE fits so smoothly with the OS that many AV reviews don't even include MSE as it was declared, by them, to be an OS update and blew the doors off everyone else with speed and efficiency. Others had to target MSE in the tests just to keep the other AVs in the same scale of graphs. Why would anyone think a site that derives it's income from AV sales give any support to a free AV from Microsoft? Microsoft isn't going to pay for a "certification". They don't need to. ;)

Added: I might add that I make extensive use of the host file and the built-in security of IE-11 and limit the use of Flash to specific sites. I would think anyone concerned with system security would do the same but the AV reviews never address this side of infections. They always start with the infections pre-installed.

Just as some grip XP, I'll stay with MSE because it works for me. And when MS released a MSE version for XP, I immediately installed it on the other two machines here. :)
 
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Intel DH67BL-B3
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Integrated Intel HD 2000
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Integrated Intel 10.1 HD, RealTek ALC892
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Seasonic 650W 80+ Gold Modular
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Rosewill Defender
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Stock CPU, Four 120mm case fans, PCH fan added
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Logitech EX100 Y-RBH94 Wireless
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Logitech EX100 M-RCE95 Wireless
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Microsoft Security Essentials
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Microsoft Internet Explorer 11
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Cyber Accoustics-3602 Speakers,
AFT XM-5U Card Reader,
Hauppauge TV-HVR-2250,
Sony LX300 USB Turntable
Having taken the time to go to av-test.org and read the test results,
AV-TEST - The Independent IT-Security Institute: Jan/Feb 2014

I'm giving Panda Free a run.

Let us know what you think of it.
While not an issue for most users, Panda has yet to fix this bug:
http://www.sevenforums.com/system-security/323640-uac-security-question-2.html#post2708450


After 24 hours, I like:
Quick installation, no registration required.
No sounds (that's just irritating, I always turn them off)
I haven't seen a single pop-up of any sort. Keeping its head down and mouth shut.

The UAC issue is interesting, but actually works to my advantage. I don't want my clients being asked too many questions. They get rattled and my phone rings. It may not be a bug, it may be a "feature".
 

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I fired up the old XP machine yesterday, 8 days and counting. MSE's flag remains Orange now rather than Green and gives a notice that MSE is stopping support for the XP machines which includes MSE. I hate to subject the "old gal" to a fresh dose of Avast, MSE has done its job. I am on the 2nd day now with my W7 machine, Got Avast pretty much settled down from the annoying pop up's, voice notices, grime warnings, firewall notices, and all the other fluff etc. So far MSE is co-existing with Avast, but I have a fresh clone of W7 just in case.
 

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Windows 7 Professional X64 Service Pack 1
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AMD Phenom II X4 955 3.20GHz
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Gigabyte GA-MA790X-UD4P
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8G
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GX550 Ti
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On board
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Asus VW246H & Syncmaster 2243swx
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1920x1080 & 1920x1080
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M4-CT128 SSD2, Samsung 840 256GB, 1 WDC 1TB
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Corsair TX750W-V2
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Antec
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2 120mm fan
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Microsoft Wireless 3050
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Microsoft Wireless 5000
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72/6Mbs (Cable)
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Asus AC1900 router, 8 port Trendnet Switch - Logitech Webcam Pro 9000
The uac issue with panda is a bug, panda confirmed and will be fixed with its new full version release. The whole interface is being redone and will have several performance improvements.

Panda Cloud Antivirus 2.9 Beta
 

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ASRock X470 Master SLI/AC AM4 AMD Promontory X470 SATA 6Gb/s
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G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM D
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2047MB NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060 6GB (EVGA)
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Motherboard Built in
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Acer R240HY bidx 23.8-Inch IPS HDMI DVI VGA (1920 x 1080) Wi
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1920 x 1080
Hard Drives
1TB Sandisk SSD PLUS (Main drive)
500 GB Seagate 7200 RPM (Games)
500 GB Western Digital 7200 RPM (Virtual Machines)
PSU
CORSAIR TX Series TX650M 650W 80+ Gold Modular Power Supply
Case
CORSAIR CARBIDE SPEC-02 Mid-Tower Gaming Case, Red LED Fan
Cooling
220mm, two 120mm, and four 60mm fans
Keyboard
Wired Dell keyboard
Mouse
Wireless Logitech mouse
Internet Speed
250mb down, 30mb up
Antivirus
Panda Cloud Antivirus
Browser
Chrome-ish x64
Other Info
Your awesome for reading this.
I run MSE. I run full scans every weekend before backups. It never finds anything. I run a full scan with MBAM, it doesn't find anything. I run AdwCleaner and it doesn't find anything. I run SuperAntiSpyware and it doesn't find anything. Once in a while, I'll run TDKiller and it doesn't find anything. So what am I missing here?

If you have the correct setup and practices, you might have NO AV program and get the same result ;) I too get no detections on all my scans, but I have had Avast pop up to advise a page was trying something, and it had stopped it.

Ken, add Emsisoft free to your arsenal...it likely will find nothing either, but it's a good program as well. You get the full program for 30 days if you like. I never had need for another active antimalware, so I switch to free right away.

https://www.emsisoft.com/en/software/antimalware/

A Guy
 

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Windows 10 Home x64
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INTEL Core i5-750 Quad-Core 3.37GHz
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ASUS P7P55D
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HyperX Fury Black Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 1866Mhz
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EVGA GeForce GTX 750 Superclocked 1GB 128-Bit GDDR5
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LG 32MA68HY 32" IPS
Screen Resolution
1920 x 1080
Hard Drives
Samsung 840 Evo 120GB, SEAGATE 500GB Barracuda® 7200.12, SATA 3 Gb/s, 7200 RPM, 16MB cache
PSU
ANTEC TruePower New TP-550, 80 PLUS, 550W
Case
ANTEC Three Hundred Illusion
Cooling
COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus, 4 x 120mm 1 x 140mm Noctua's
Internet Speed
85 + Mbps
Antivirus
Avast
Browser
Vivaldi
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Added: I might add that I make extensive use of the host file and the built-in security of IE-11 and limit the use of Flash to specific sites. I would think anyone concerned with system security would do the same but the AV reviews never address this side of infections. They always start with the infections pre-installed.
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I'll add that I've had IE11's SmartScreen Filter prevent me from downloading a known bad file (that I wanted to study in my controlled environment). Once I got the known bad file on the computer, I installed MSE. MSE was did not declare the file as bad during a manual scan or when I installed it. This as happened on more than one known bad file. I'm not talking about PUP files, I'm talking about Trojans that have been in the wild for a day or so.

I don't know exactly what we can draw from that info - other than to say MSE might need IE to help protect some users.




When this computer got hit with a root kit (that MSE did not stop)...
...at least MSE stopped some of the flood of other infections that the root kit was bringing in.
That alone might be enough of a reason to keep some antivirus tool installed - although, I could argue against using an antivirus app too. I'm flexible :-)
 

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Computer type
Laptop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Employer provided Dell Latitude
OS
W7 Pro SP1 64bit
CPU
i7
Memory
8GB
Graphics Card(s)
Intel HD Graphics
Hard Drives
crappy SSD
Antivirus
Employer mandated Symantec Endpoint Protection
Browser
Pale Moon 64bit, IE11 64bit & Chrome 64bit
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