Windows 7 Bug?

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I tested it on my x64 Win7 with 4GB RAM using a little program I wrote. I tried 50, 100, 500, then 1000 Notepads.

At 500 and 1000, my system was unusable. At 1000 Notepads, it warned me that resources were short and asked me if I wanted to stop Aero.

At no time did it bluescreen or otherwise error. I just couldn't do anything on the system.

IN that case I want MS to give me my money back. Windows 7 is no good. :sarc: :D
 

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I tested it on my x64 Win7 with 4GB RAM using a little program I wrote. I tried 50, 100, 500, then 1000 Notepads.

At 500 and 1000, my system was unusable. At 1000 Notepads, it warned me that resources were short and asked me if I wanted to stop Aero.

At no time did it bluescreen or otherwise error. I just couldn't do anything on the system.

IN that case I want MS to give me my money back. Windows 7 is no good. :sarc: :D

Immediately. You can't edit 1000 of your text files in Notepad. What a rip off! ;)
 

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Going to test how many laughing babies I can open at once, be back later :)

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I wouldn't call that a bug, rather a limitation of a system's finite resources.

Now, if you want a bug, what about the shutdown command? If you try this from a command prompt with the /l switch on its own it works, but try adding a /t xxx switch in order to delay the operation, it fails to work. The bug seems to be just limited to when the /l switch is used in combination with any of the other switches.
 

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Dwarf, /l switch is to log off, /t to set up delay when shutting down, so logically thinking those two switches should not be used together.
 

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I know. But if you check the syntax of the command, you will find that the switches can be used together. Certainly, the /r switch works to initiate a system restart, either immediately on its own or delayed when used in conjunction with the /t xxx switch.
 

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Yes, because the /t switch works with any other switch that turns the computer off, completely or rebooting it. I really thi8nk it works as it is meant to work, setting delay when and only shutting down.

Just my two €-cents...
 

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OK, here's the syntax:

Code:
Microsoft Windows [Version 6.1.7600]
Copyright (c) 2009 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.
C:\Users\Dwarf>shutdown /?
Usage: shutdown [/i | /l | /s | /r | /g | /a | /p | /h | /e] [/f]
[/m [URL="file://\\computer]"]\\computer][/URL][/t xxx][/d [p|u:]xx:yy [/c "comment"]]
No args Display help. This is the same as typing /?.
/? Display help. This is the same as not typing any options.
/i Display the graphical user interface (GUI).
This must be the first option.
/l Log off. This cannot be used with /m or /d options.
/s Shutdown the computer.
/r Shutdown and restart the computer.
/g Shutdown and restart the computer. After the system is
rebooted, restart any registered applications.
/a Abort a system shutdown.
This can only be used during the time-out period.
/p Turn off the local computer with no time-out or warning.
Can be used with /d and /f options.
/h Hibernate the local computer.
Can be used with the /f option.
/e Document the reason for an unexpected shutdown of a computer.
/m [URL="file://\\computer"]\\computer[/URL] Specify the target computer.
/t xxx Set the time-out period before shutdown to xxx seconds.
The valid range is 0-315360000 (10 years), with a default of 30.
If the timeout period is greater than 0, the /f parameter is
implied.
/c "comment" Comment on the reason for the restart or shutdown.
Maximum of 512 characters allowed.
/f Force running applications to close without forewarning users.
The /f parameter is implied when a value greater than 0 is
specified for the /t parameter.
/d [p|u:]xx:yy Provide the reason for the restart or shutdown.
p indicates that the restart or shutdown is planned.
u indicates that the reason is user defined.
If neither p nor u is specified the restart or shutdown is
unplanned.
xx is the major reason number (positive integer less than 256).
yy is the minor reason number (positive integer less than 65536).
 
Reasons on this computer:
(E = Expected U = Unexpected P = planned, C = customer defined)
Type Major Minor Title
U 0 0 Other (Unplanned)
E 0 0 Other (Unplanned)
E P 0 0 Other (Planned)
U 0 5 Other Failure: System Unresponsive
E 1 1 Hardware: Maintenance (Unplanned)
E P 1 1 Hardware: Maintenance (Planned)
E 1 2 Hardware: Installation (Unplanned)
E P 1 2 Hardware: Installation (Planned)
E 2 2 Operating System: Recovery (Planned)
E P 2 2 Operating System: Recovery (Planned)
P 2 3 Operating System: Upgrade (Planned)
E 2 4 Operating System: Reconfiguration (Unplanned)
E P 2 4 Operating System: Reconfiguration (Planned)
P 2 16 Operating System: Service pack (Planned)
2 17 Operating System: Hot fix (Unplanned)
P 2 17 Operating System: Hot fix (Planned)
2 18 Operating System: Security fix (Unplanned)
P 2 18 Operating System: Security fix (Planned)
E 4 1 Application: Maintenance (Unplanned)
E P 4 1 Application: Maintenance (Planned)
E P 4 2 Application: Installation (Planned)
E 4 5 Application: Unresponsive
E 4 6 Application: Unstable
U 5 15 System Failure: Stop error
U 5 19 Security issue
E 5 19 Security issue
E P 5 19 Security issue
E 5 20 Loss of network connectivity (Unplanned)
U 6 11 Power Failure: Cord Unplugged
U 6 12 Power Failure: Environment
P 7 0 Legacy API shutdown
C:\Users\Dwarf>
This would appear to imply that the switches can be used as I stated above, i.e. shutdown /l /t xxx
 

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Dwarf, with all due respect, I know the syntax. I understand your point, I'm just trying to make you to understand mine.

The explanation of both switches in question is IMO self explanatory, logging off and delaying the shutdown. The /t switch is clearly to be used only when the user wants to delay the shutdown: /t xxx Set the time-out period before shutdown to xxx seconds. When logging off, the computer is not shutdown thus /t-switch is not meant to be used.
 

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No problem, Kari. I stand corrected. Shutdown

It's still an error in the help for the command when it states that /d cannot be used instead of /t.

I still think that this needs addressing so that the /t switch works, because by restarting and/or shutting down aren't you also implicitely logging off by ending the user session?
 

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:thumbsup:
 

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ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5850 Graphics
Sound Card
Beats sound system with integrated subwoofer
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17" laptop display, 22" LED and 32" Full HD TV through HDMI
Screen Resolution
1600*900 (1), 1920*1080 (2&3)
Hard Drives
Internal: 2 x 500 GB SATA Hard Disk Drive 7200 rpm
External: 2TB for backups, 3TB USB3 network drive for media
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As Envy runs a bit warm, I have it on a Cooler Master pad
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Logitech diNovo Media Desktop Laser (bluetooth)
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Logitech Performance Mouse MX
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50/10 Mbps VDSL
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Windows Defender 4.3.9431.0
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I suppose that, since that is the way it is designed, it is not a bug at all. However, I would still call it one as it is (to me anyway) an illogical implementation of the command.
 

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Intel Core-i5-3570K 4-core @ 3.4GHz (Ivy Bridge) (OC 4.4GHz)
Motherboard
ASRock Z77 Extreme4-M
Memory
4 x 4GB DDR3-1600 Corsair Vengeance CMZ8GX3M2A1600C9B (16GB)
Graphics Card(s)
MSI GeForce GTX770 Gaming OC 2GB
Sound Card
Realtek High Definition on board solution (ALC 898)
Monitor(s) Displays
ViewSonic VA1912w Widescreen (VGA)
Screen Resolution
1440x900
Hard Drives
OCZ Agility 3 SSD 120GB SATA III x2 (RAID 0)
Samsung HD501LJ 500GB SATA II x2
Hitachi HDS721010CLA332 1TB SATA II
Iomega 1.5TB Ext USB 2.0
WD 2.0TB Ext USB 3.0
PSU
XFX Pro Series 850W Semi-Modular
Case
Gigabyte IF233
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1 x 120mm Front Inlet 1 x 120mm Rear Exhaust
Keyboard
Microsoft Comfort Curve Keyboard 3000 (USB)
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Microsoft Comfort Mouse 3000 for Business (USB)
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IE 11
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Asus Eee PC 1011PX Netbook (Windows 7 x86 Starter)
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