windows 7 compatability

[justasic]

I have used windows 7 and I love it though when it comes to compatibility windows sucks.

First issue: windows doesn't like a game called "command and conquer generals" did some research and found it wasent compatable with vista eather and cant find a fix

Second issue: windows virtual pc is blocked because of compatability issues the virtual pc thing that comes with 7 dosent work (because of my motherboard not supporting it).

I just posted this to see if there was any way that you can force windows to run the program instead of blocking it and to make a problems and solutions thread:huh:

 

[whest]

Yes you can have vary degrees of sucess by doing the following (disabling desktop composition and visual themes can work some magic also).

To get a program or driver to install if the driver or program was written for an earlier OS eg vista or XP, and wont install - do the following below. Once its installed you can have another go at it by changing the settings above, and others:

To install a driver OR program in compatibility mode - right click the setup.exe file - click properties - click compatibility - check run in compatibility with vista/xp etc - check run as administrator - leave the rest blank. Start setup.exe and instal

To run the program in compatibility mode right click any shortcut to the program, or find the exe program in program files, and do as above and start the program.

If you need help type "how to run a program in compatibility mode" in the help & support search.

For virtual xp mode you need a processor that supports VT (Virtual Technology), and then you enable it in the bios - http://www.guru3d.com/news/intel-cpu-virtualization-confusion-undermining-windows-7-xp-mode-/

In my bios it can be found in the advanced menu - cpu configuration - Vanderpool technology -this is the VT, and can be enabled here.

Then you download and install - to find out more - I know you said your motherboard didnt support it, but its the cpu, and whether you can enable VT in the bios, of course you may have meant that, but incase you got it wrong, or would like more details go here.
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/virtual-pc/

 

[Night Hawk]

Well and welcome to SF! justasic Have you tried right clicking on the game's installer or main shortcut or executable to try running in the XP compatibility mode? Another thing many are not even aware of 7's new compatibility troubleshooting option also seen in the right click menu!

Here I run some of those good old 98-XP games on the 64bit RC without a problem as well as most other XP/Vista compatible games and apps. The troubleshooting tool will prompt you to run the installer and ask if the program installed correctly once it is on. Usually that will automatically place a new registry entry to set the program/game in the XP mode.

 

[justasic]

ok im not stupid (no offence) ive tryed all that and it dosent work also i cant find the virtualization thing on my board evga 790i ultra sli with latest bios update

 

[Night Hawk]

It may not be the board itself preventling use of the VPC or new XP mode but the model cpu you are running there. Your next step now if you haven't already done so would be downing the IPIU or Intel Processor Identification Utility directly from MS available at http://www.microsoft.com/windows/virtual-pc/support/configure-bios.aspx

You'll also want to look over the guide for this as well. http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/8247-windows-xp-mode-install-setup.html

I was fortunate enough here right from the start with the AMD board where all this was already enabled by default. If you find out that the cpu supports virtualization then you need to look over some additional bios settings information for that model board you have there.

From what I gather from the OC forums however the advise to "disable" virtualization when ocing is seen quite a bit on that model board. In fact the term "Virtualization Technology" or VT may be the item to look for. That may be buried a little deeper like in the dram timings section or advanced when going into a sub section there.

 

[zigzag3143]

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have you thought about going to the manufacters' web site for help?


Ken

 

[Jarhead57]

That's odd as I ran Generals on both Vista and Windows 7 by using compatibility mode and running them with XP checked and running as administrator. Now I haven't installed but one game since installing the RTM 64bit and it is a Command and Conquer game (Renegade) and it runs just fine.

 

[Night Hawk]

Want to hear an odd one? For one old XP 32bit tv tuner app I got that running on the 64bit 7 beta with 32bit device drivers for a short period of time while it simply would not run at all even in the XP compatibility on the 32bit Vista!

Since that I finally went for the updated version of the same program by way of electronic download since it's not available in disk form and it works like a champ on the 64bit RC. In fact I run a few old 98-XP games on the 64bit 7 as well.

The one thing I noticed right off when 7 was still in beta was the improvement seen in backward compatibility as well as the 32bit emulation on the 64bit side! With only a few exceptions most everything being run on 7 presently is still 32bit and still compatible with the previous versions.

 

[justasic]

ok my pc is not a manufactures pc i built it

intel core 2 duo e4600 2.4ghz overclocked to 3.00ghz
geforce 8600 gt in sli
evga 790i ultra sli motherboard
maxtor 500gb hdd
sony dvd-rw drive
coolmax 700 cu 700 watt power supply
windows 7 build 7600 x64

i discouvered that after my harddrive had a recent partitision table corruption and resulted in me reinstalling windows that virtual pc works now the update that you have to install for xp mode blocks virtual pc.

also i have tryed every option for generals, i tryed my friends disks, illegal versions, patches, everything. nothing worked
i tryed it on one of my friends computers running windows xp and it ran fine, all the downloads worked.

I even installed Windows Big Mess x64 (windows vista x64) and it didnt work i really dont want to install windows xp im not used to it and its hard for me to get around in the os.

last i discouvered i need 64 drivers for the playstation logitech EYETOY not the ps3 eye.

 

[rbmorse]

Windows 7's virtual XP mode requires a CPU that supports VT -- Intel's Virtualization Technology (whatever that is). Unfortunately, yours does not.

The older Microsoft VirtualPC running in compatibility mode will work (as you've discovered), but you give up quite a bit of performance and the desktop integration that is available through the Windows 7 Virtual XP mode.

 

[Night Hawk]

The one problem you will continue to have from the start is not first seeing the Virtual PC RC installed first and then the XP mode RC following the system restart as long as both the board and cpu support virtualization to begin with. Without the new not old VPC forget about the new XP mode as well.

The elements in the new VPC are required just to run the XP mode. By your own description there you've been trying to "mickey mouse" things to get it to work and it won't. The beta worked with the beta for the other and now the RC for one works with the RC of the other there. One formula only!

As far as XP it wasn't that hard to get used to but simply a "Big Downgrade"! from where 7 is now!

For the rest of us who ran XP and then Vista later and even previous versions the debate on that is long settled! "hey hey 7 baby!"

 

[justasic]

thanks

well thanks everyone for the help i discovered that windows has "moods" every time you reinstall it. sounds weird but i have never had the same windows experience with the last install as i did with the next