Windows 7 lagging badly and very slow

[Mut]

Hi guys. I'm new to this forum and to Win 7.
Finally updated my 6 year old Acer Aspire laptop (AMD turon 64 x 2, 2 Gig ram, XP Media Centre) with a HP DV7-5005TX (I7-2720 2.2g, 8 gig DDR3, ATI Radeon HD6570 Graphics with 1 gig Ram & 2TB HD).
It was preloaded with Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit which installed without a hitch.
I then installed all Windows updates and some necessary programs (Firefox, Thunderbird, Cad, Graphic design, Office 2007, ZoneAlarm, AVG) and tried it out. - Painfully slow in all areas like it had to consider everything I asked of it B4 it would start reacting.
Did a registry clean & fix, defrag - a little better but not much.
Tried a change of antivirus (incase that was slowing it up) - No better.
Installed Winoptimiser 8 and set everything for peak performance which improved things a little further bit still not great - My old Acer still runs rings around this thing!
It boots up in ok time but the actual operations are 'jagged', like when typing in browser display stalls for a few seconds then catches up. Scrolling down a window does the same. Some basic programs can take half a minute to even open a window, let alone set up.
Surely Win 7 can't be this slow and painfull. What am I missing?
Cheers for any help.
Mut

 

[PauloAgojo277]

Hello Welcome To SevenForums
=>~This My Opinion~<=
1.Please Just Install One AV Because they are fighting each other for their Real Time Shields. But I Suggest To Install MSE ( Microsoft Security Essential ) or Just Uninstall Your AVG Because I used ZoneAlarm For A year and it's cool.
2. This Is My Suggestion Too Use ASC ( Advance System Care ) I Used It Until Now And It is Good In Tweaking.
3. Please Change Your Motherboard If Possible Because your motherboard might not supporting your new
Hardwares

That's All Thank You . Please Add Some Rep Those Who Help You

 

[Golden]

Hi Mut,

Welcome. You mentioned that Windows 7 was pre-installed..............if so, then it sounds liked a bloated installation (all the OEM software included as part of the installation : collectively referred to as crap-ware or bloat-ware) which can be very slow.

My suggestions:
1. AV : use MSE
2. Uninstall and never again use any 3rd party optimizers - Windows 7 doesn't need it like XP did

Finally, please read this:

http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/219576-clean-up-factory-bloatware.html
http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/174907-clean-install-factory-coa-activation-key.html

and then also give this a thought:

http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/219487-clean-reinstall-factory-oem-windows-7-a.html

I guarantee this will significantly improve your Windows 7 experience.

Regards,
Golden

 

[beret21]

ON that system specs i think nothing should slow it down ( even two antiviruses or any software)
I think the windows you installed is having some problem ......

UPDATE THE DRIVERS AS A LAST TRY ....................................IF THAT DOESN'T WORK THEN GO FOR THE NEW WINDOWS

 

[Mut]

Thanks Guys

Thanks for the suggestions guys.
Just to clarify, - I did uninstall AVG before installing AV component of Zone Alarm. I learnt that lesson the hard way many years ago :-(
Golden - I'll definately give those tutorials a read and try them. Cheers
I'll also get rid of the Winoptimizer as the gain wasn't that much anyway. Might try the ASC Paulo mentioned.
I also noted alot of complaints elsewhere regarding the boot up time of Win 7.....Strange, that's the only thing this one does quickly so far......
Thanks again, Mut

 

[Golden]

Might try the ASC Paulo mentioned.

I don't recommend it - its just another so-called optimizer that Windows 7 does not need. Its not worth the code its written with.

Post back if you need more help.

 

[Jacee]

ZoneAlarm may be the 'culprit'.
Uninstall ZA:
http://download.zonealarm.com/bin/free/support/download/clean.exe

 

[gregrocker]

You are using some of the worst crapware we see here. What did you use to clean the registry? Most registry cleaners are sales scams which ruin Win7.

I'd start over following the Best Practices and tools to obtain and maintain a perfect Clean Reinstall - Factory OEM Windows 7

 

[Layback Bear]

Windows 7 is not slow unless the owner/operator tweaks it and makes it slow.
Any computer can be made slow with the wrong settings done by tweaking and the wrong programs. If one takes the time to read through the many post here slowness of Windows 7 normally comes down to snake oil (ASC and the like) programs and tweaking by the owner/operator. Once someone gets Windows 7 the XP brain cells should be turned off. Them tweaking days are gone with Windows 7. It's time to develop new Windows 7 brain cells. Because Windows 7 is made for millions of different people all over the world there/their are some thing you can do to make it suit the person a little better. Windows 7 Forum and it's Tutorials have many ways to do things to Windows 7 without hurting or slowing down your system. Spend less time on those smarter than Microsoft we can do it better sites. Spend more time here and one will learn Windows 7 and enjoy it.

 

[Mut]

Layback Bear. I understand where you're coming from but if you reread my original post You'll see it was a problem from the start. The 'tweaking' was done down the track in an attempt to get it to work at all, not to better Microsoft's thinking.
I didn't mention in the first post, but I reset the laptop to original status when I first found it so slow and then did a clean reinstall - no difference at all. Then I started looking elsewhere.
There is a problem somewhere, probably just with my preloaded windows or install, but it wasn't my 'tweaking' that turned it to treacle.
Mut

 

[ICIT2LOL]

Layback Bear. I understand where you're coming from but if you reread my original post You'll see it was a problem from the start. The 'tweaking' was done down the track in an attempt to get it to work at all, not to better Microsoft's thinking.
I didn't mention in the first post, but I reset the laptop to original status when I first found it so slow and then did a clean reinstall - no difference at all. Then I started looking elsewhere.
There is a problem somewhere, probably just with my preloaded windows or install, but it wasn't my 'tweaking' that turned it to treacle.
Mut

Hello and welcome Mut mate have you tried reseating the RAM and HDD for starters then perhaps run a memtest, you may just have a rogue batch of hardware.

Make a bootable memtest disk set the BIOS to boot form the opto and give it at least six passes - can't do any harm.
Memtest86+ - Advanced Memory Diagnostic Tool

Wouldn't do any harm to run a hard drive test on it either

SeaTools | Seagate > make sure you pick the right bit OS.

 

[Layback Bear]

I did read your first post and all the rest. I don't post out of some whim.
post #1
1. Installed CAD and Graphic design. Use a lot of ram.
2. Registry clean and fix. No one knows what that did.
3. Winoptimizer, once again one knows what that did either.
Have a nice day.

 

[OldMX]

Hi guys. I'm new to this forum and to Win 7.
Finally updated my 6 year old Acer Aspire laptop (AMD turon 64 x 2, 2 Gig ram, XP Media Centre) with a HP DV7-5005TX (I7-2720 2.2g, 8 gig DDR3, ATI Radeon HD6570 Graphics with 1 gig Ram & 2TB HD).
It was preloaded with Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit which installed without a hitch.
I then installed all Windows updates and some necessary programs (Firefox, Thunderbird, Cad, Graphic design, Office 2007, ZoneAlarm, AVG) and tried it out. - Painfully slow in all areas like it had to consider everything I asked of it B4 it would start reacting.
Did a registry clean & fix, defrag - a little better but not much.
Tried a change of antivirus (incase that was slowing it up) - No better.
Installed Winoptimiser 8 and set everything for peak performance which improved things a little further bit still not great - My old Acer still runs rings around this thing!
It boots up in ok time but the actual operations are 'jagged', like when typing in browser display stalls for a few seconds then catches up. Scrolling down a window does the same. Some basic programs can take half a minute to even open a window, let alone set up.
Surely Win 7 can't be this slow and painfull. What am I missing?
Cheers for any help.
Mut

Start fresh with a clean install, avoid AVG and ZA and those registry cleaners/optimizers, for AV use Avast! or MSE.

 

[ICIT2LOL]

Well Mut you didn't try the memtest or HDD tests? or my other suggestions so I would go with the fresh install or a factory default - key F11 on power up (the usual for HP laptops) and if you need speed well just stick to ones that are tried and tested mate not those ones that promise you light speed operation they are crap. Oh save any data before you do the default or install that you have / need.

Get rid of the bloat - from memory a lot with HP and use Brinks Optimise tutorial for starters http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/11728-optimize-windows-7-a.html?filter[2]=Performance Maintenance

Plus if you are willing to take my advice for what it is worth, and please don't take offence here is none intended it's an idea to ask on here as to what is good for what you want to install if you are not sure.

Have a good one

 

[gregrocker]

If you decide to run HP Factory Recovery then I'd also use these steps to Clean Up Factory Bloatware

 

[ICIT2LOL]

If you decide to run HP Factory Recovery then I'd also use these steps to Clean Up Factory Bloatware

Hum Greg I found this in the bowels of that ref too and is a fair bit different to the defaults I have done in the past on HP's, but a bit more like the stuff I am used to doing

Going to keep this one in favourites for future use. Performing an HP System Recovery (Windows 7) | HP® Support

 

[monkeylove]

Also, in place of ZA, I use the built-in firewall with Windows 7 Firewall Control.

 

[sammy3417]

Might try the ASC Paulo mentioned.

I don't recommend it - its just another so-called optimizer that Windows 7 does not need. Its not worth the code its written with.

Post back if you need more help.

Golden is so right on the so-called optimizer... Seven doesn't need anything like that! I'd use Ccleaner, this has everything you need and its not so top heavy on your system

 

[ICIT2LOL]

Might try the ASC Paulo mentioned.

I don't recommend it - its just another so-called optimizer that Windows 7 does not need. Its not worth the code its written with.

Post back if you need more help.

Golden is so right on the so-called optimizer... Seven doesn't need anything like that! I'd use Ccleaner, this has everything you need and its not so top heavy on your system

Yeah well Sammy thats what has been said all along so many are sucked in by the promise of light speed tune up apps truly amazes me what people believe sometimes.

 

[sammy3417]

I don't recommend it - its just another so-called optimizer that Windows 7 does not need. Its not worth the code its written with.

Post back if you need more help.

Golden is so right on the so-called optimizer... Seven doesn't need anything like that! I'd use Ccleaner, this has everything you need and its not so top heavy on your system

Yeah well Sammy thats what has been said all along so many are sucked in by the promise of light speed tune up apps truly amazes me what people believe sometimes.

To be honest I used to swear by these bits of software system mechanic, ASC... They do appear to be good in the short term, but they do mess up your system in the long run... When I 1st got Xp...software like this was needed as XP was very very insecure and unstable, you never knew if you were coming or going.... Windows 7 is in a different league and in all fairness to Microsoft they really got their act together with Windows 7 ... very low maintenance OS