Windows 7 Lite Builds - SFT

[SausageHacker]

Hey if anyone needs help, I made a vid: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y42w01nUkhs

If you want to show off your work, record it and link us to the youtube video, I would like to see how all you guys are doing!

A new version is out, 7Slimmer MMX! (MMX is 2010 in Roman Numeral notation). Many improvements in terms of speed and usability. A plugin for vLite is added, and most importantly, there is only ONE executable

Happy new year!

 

[Iamthebull]

First post on here, I was trying to find a guide through vLite or any other program to slim down my Win7 install. Any help would be awesome!

 

[iseeuu]

First post on here, I was trying to find a guide through vLite or any other program to slim down my Win7 install. Any help would be awesome!

Hello Iamthebull, and welcome to Windows Seven Forums.

At the moment, Microsoft is not happy with the idea of us customizing our own installs. Just to be sure you know about it, future updates and service packs may not install for you if you remove parts of the Operating System. Vlite development ended with SP1. That said, Vlite is purty much self explanatory. Is there something specific you want explained?

Cheers!
Robert

 

[valtonray]

i've always been wary of using these lite builds because if i understand correctly it can cause system instability after some updates.

 

[monky91]

Guys, I was very sorry if I bring this old post up again. But I seriously need some rookie guys from you pros to tweak my laptop..

I bought my own laptop 2 months ago, and it was fantastic as it was the 1st "high end" gadget I got since I was born.. Its very responsive and fast.. From the boot up time, programs responsiveness to shut down time.. It just take 22sec to boot and 8 sec to shut down..

But as time goes, after I install this and that, it start to slow down.. liek 40sec.. SO I did a search on google and found that I can actually yweak the boot up to utilize both cores.. But then my comp crashes.. BSOD and now my comp seem to messed up after recovery.. I cant install SPTD nor Daemon Tool..

SO I have a few questions now :

1) I was wondering is it possible to edit my very own Windows 7 from acer recovery disc?
2) With my current configuration, will tweaking allow me to see any performance changes?
3) Is the slow down cause by the programs and games I installed? Or when time goes on, it is the faith for computer to slwo down? (I hope to protect my computer in its tip top condition)
4) Can u pros guide me tweaking my WIndows 7 to the lightest it can be..

Thx a lot

 

[logicearth]

But as time goes, after I install this and that, it start to slow down.. liek 40sec.. SO I did a search on google and found that I can actually yweak the boot up to utilize both cores..

Which is a popular myth which never actually did any such thing.
The biggest cause of slow downs is software, like anti-virues.

 

[gregrocker]

There is no tweaking necessary with Win7, which is as light as an OS can get.

It is obviously tweaking that has caused your your problems to begin with.

The only needed maintenance is CCleaner (Run Cleaner and Registry tab) and Auslogics Defraggers, state of the art cleaning/defragging tools used by the pros.

Watch your msconfig startup list to disable any Startup programs that don't absolutely need to be started up with the computer. I only allow AV, Gadgets and StikyNotes.

Clean reinstall using a clean-copy Win7 installer for your version which will activate using your OEM product key. Borrow or locate an installer, extract files to desktop, delete ei.cfg in Sources folder, recompile into an ISO to burn All-Versions DVD: http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/32055-bootable-iso-create-installation-files.html

Any missing drivers (after optional Updates) or favorite applications can be found on the Support Downloads webpage for your model computer, Adobe (Reader, flash) and Java (runtime, Office) websites.

 

[monky91]

Thx Guys for teh replies..

Which is a popular myth which never actually did any such thing.
The biggest cause of slow downs is software, like anti-virues.

I am sure that my computer is 100% virus free. and I am using an antivirus which they said (I mean I did a search) is very lite, NOD32. It din slow much, just that the boot up time slower by 20sec.. Maybe I am sarcastic with that,, lol

There is no tweaking necessary with Win7, which is as light as an OS can get.

Clean reinstall using a clean-copy Win7 installer for your version which will activate using your OEM product key. Borrow or locate an installer, extract files to desktop, delete ei.cfg in Sources folder, recompile into an ISO to burn All-Versions DVD: http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/32055-bootable-iso-create-installation-files.html

Any missing drivers (after optional Updates) or favorite applications can be found on the Support Downloads webpage for your model computer, Adobe (Reader, flash) and Java (runtime, Office) websites.

WIndows 7 is lite? Why?

And teh instruction below is how you create a lite version of bootable windows 7 disc?

 

[gregrocker]

WIndows 7 is lite? Why?

And teh instruction below is how you create a lite version of bootable windows 7 disc?

Because they set all Services which absolutely don't have to run on Manual fast-triggers.

If you vLite it to remove Services, it won't run any leaner than installing a retail version - I know because I tried a dozen different Vlites over a year ago. Vlite it for size on netbooks only.

You asked how to edit the Acer Recov disk to make it lighter without bloatware. Instead I suggest how to use a clean-copy Win7 installer to clean reinstall which is what tech enthusiasts do to overcome bloatware corruption.

Sorry if this isn't what you wanted to hear, but it is nonetheless the truth.

 

[monky91]

WIndows 7 is lite? Why?

And teh instruction below is how you create a lite version of bootable windows 7 disc?

Because they set all Services which absolutely don't have to run on Manual fast-triggers.

If you vLite it to remove Services, it won't run any leaner than installing a retail version - I know because I tried a dozen different Vlites over a year ago. Vlite it for size on netbooks only.

You asked how to edit the Acer Recov disk to make it lighter without bloatware. Instead I suggest how to use a clean-copy Win7 installer to clean reinstall which is what tech enthusiasts do to overcome bloatware corruption.

Sorry if this isn't what you wanted to hear, but it is nonetheless the truth.

No! Thanks, this is what I want to hear!! I rather install the original one as I don't need to learn, sacrifice my time, and betting my laptop up for editing the OS!! Thanks a lot gregrocker..

But hey, there is still a bit of thing I wanna know, are there any option to maintain my boot up and shut down speed, even after I install some programs in it?

Thx ya

 

[valtonray]

if you choose to tweak 7 instead of using lite builds which may or may not contain viruses or other unwanted good visit Black Viper's Web Site and look at which services you may be able to turn off. some of these will impact performance but you should proceed with caution and only turn off features that you understand what they do and know you do not need. i'd also create a backup disk if you haven't already.

 

[monky91]

if you choose to tweak 7 instead of using lite builds which may or may not contain viruses or other unwanted good visit Black Viper's Web Site and look at which services you may be able to turn off. some of these will impact performance but you should proceed with caution and only turn off features that you understand what they do and know you do not need. i'd also create a backup disk if you haven't already.

Thx for the suggextion, I know it last time, but the problem is that I donou which is able to turn off.. That's why, I heard that there are some tweak name smart tweak, and it tweak for most user.. anyone tried it before?

 

[gregrocker]

The best way to trim your startup and shutdown times is to have the latest drivers and disable any listings from msconfig>Startup list that don't absolutely need to startup with the computer.

If you still have slower startup and shutdown than you want, set HD first to boot in BIOS setup, check the Diagnostics>Performance log for what is hanging, and enable bootlogging at f8 prompt in Startup - then check your bootlog for what driver might be failing to start quickly.

 

[valtonray]

if you choose to tweak 7 instead of using lite builds which may or may not contain viruses or other unwanted good visit Black Viper's Web Site and look at which services you may be able to turn off. some of these will impact performance but you should proceed with caution and only turn off features that you understand what they do and know you do not need. i'd also create a backup disk if you haven't already.

Thx for the suggextion, I know it last time, but the problem is that I donou which is able to turn off.. That's why, I heard that there are some tweak name smart tweak, and it tweak for most user.. anyone tried it before?

he explains all or at least most of the services on his site as well as offering common configurations you can check out.

 

[gregrocker]

I used Black Viper as a survival guide when Vista first lumbered in. Had always used it for XP, too. Seems they slipped a lot of his service edits into SP's, besides Win7's success being built on setting most Services to Manual.

What Auto services have you found are expendable in 7? The only ones I look for are Offline Files (in Ultimate) and Tablet PC. Everything else seems important or it is set to Manual and therefore harmless.

 

[valtonray]

well for myself i have various pc's throughout the house that i use for different purposes. so there is always something i can turn off because it won't be needed on that particular machine. for the average person with 1 general purpose machine i'd say most of it is in fact needed. but i'd recommend the OP have a look there before they start messing with builds other users have chopped down to nothing.

 

[SausageHacker]

Solution?

WIndows 7 is lite? Why?

And teh instruction below is how you create a lite version of bootable windows 7 disc?

Because they set all Services which absolutely don't have to run on Manual fast-triggers.

If you vLite it to remove Services, it won't run any leaner than installing a retail version - I know because I tried a dozen different Vlites over a year ago. Vlite it for size on netbooks only.

You asked how to edit the Acer Recov disk to make it lighter without bloatware. Instead I suggest how to use a clean-copy Win7 installer to clean reinstall which is what tech enthusiasts do to overcome bloatware corruption.

Sorry if this isn't what you wanted to hear, but it is nonetheless the truth.

No! Thanks, this is what I want to hear!! I rather install the original one as I don't need to learn, sacrifice my time, and betting my laptop up for editing the OS!! Thanks a lot gregrocker..

But hey, there is still a bit of thing I wanna know, are there any option to maintain my boot up and shut down speed, even after I install some programs in it?

Thx ya

monky91, I think you can slim down the Acer disks if you are willing to get your hands a little dirty. This should be straightforward, but may get a little confusing.

1. Install the Windows 7 clean from the Acer disks.

2. Install another partition of Windows 7 next to it (both are temporary). It doesn't matter if you use the Acer disk for this one, but you can whatever is available. You aren't gonna activate it anyway.

3. On the first partition, apply every tweak you want to make it fast. Run CCleaner, autoruns, Black Viper service guide, etc. Just make it the way you want. Install all your software, but do not put in the antivirus (or any other automatically running software) yet. Also, uninstall the crapware you don't need (Acer and other brands shovel the crap in there so they can sell it cheaper. Don't be fooled, it's all just marketing).

4. On the second partition, run GImageX and choose to capture the first partition into a .WIM file. Use the appropriate flags, like HOMEPREMIUM if you have Home Premium.

5. Now, just replace the install.wim file on your install DVD with this one. Be sure to name it install.wim though. Now, run it through vLite or use 7SLimmer. Now you can test it out in a virtual machine, or if you want, just try your luck.

The advantage you get is that you have all your drivers already to go, you don't need to worry about your registry becoming bloated down when you install more software, and the boot times should be the same, or similar to a clean install. Best of all, you have this DVD to reinstall it whenever you muck up your Windows. It's just ready to go.

 

[monky91]

Hey, all the pros here.. Thx for all ur guides...

For sausage hacker.. I will try when I get some of my games insatllation.. Borrowed from fren now need the disc to install back, if I do your way.. But thx anhyway... Will try soon.. COnsider a speed freak here.. haha

 

[chrysalis]

But as time goes, after I install this and that, it start to slow down.. liek 40sec.. SO I did a search on google and found that I can actually yweak the boot up to utilize both cores..

Which is a popular myth which never actually did any such thing.
The biggest cause of slow downs is software, like anti-virues.

I will agree with that.

a/v themselves probably have more negative effect on a pc than 95% of malware.

There is a few windows services which can affect performance noticeably, but these can simply be turned off, there is no need to remove them from the installation. I did use nlite on windows XP but not to remove features, I used it to customise default options and to integrate apps and drivers.

In future is possible I will do the same on windows 7 but again it would only be for customisation and to integrate stuff.

Also on windows XP it was handly to make the install disc unattended as default it asks you many questions so you have to be present, the default behaviour on windows 7 is far improved so after you pick the hdd to install to it wont ask you anything else until the end.

 

[SausageHacker]

I think you can get performance improvements from more than just services and processes.

With a Lite disk, there are a lot less hooks that need to be loaded. You don't notice this as much on startup, but apps load a little faster.

Windows in general tends to slow down after you use it for a few days after a fresh install. A Lite disk takes a lot longer - if at all (if you do it right )