Windows 7 Mouse Acceleration Help!

[Maggy]

Dear Mark C,

You are my hero.

I've tested less than a minute but my cursor finally moves so intuitively that I believe there's little more to improve. I can point at a single pixel with ease, jump to the upper right corner of my screen, then to the bottom left, than precisely back to that single pixel without lifting my hand once.

In the hypothetical case that once the trackball might brake in halves, I could still use it by just rocking this half ball in the socket. And now that I think of it, this might actually have practical use for disabled people who are not able to roll the ball but are still able to rock it.

Thanks a lot

Maggy

 

[Mark C]

Maggy, I'm really glad I could help!

 

[maffiakillen]

it work for me THANK YOU

Ouch... This is hard to do.

Try this:

++++ Copy to Inclination_90-3.reg copy below do not copy this line ++++
Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Control Panel\Mouse]
"SmoothMouseXCurve"=hex:\
00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,\
cc,4c,00,00,00,00,00,00,\
00,c0,00,00,00,00,00,00,\
00,80,01,00,00,00,00,00,\
00,00,08,00,00,00,00,00
"SmoothMouseYCurve"=hex:\
00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,\
33,73,00,00,00,00,00,00,\
00,80,04,00,00,00,00,00,\
00,00,28,00,00,00,00,00,\
00,00,6a,02,00,00,00,00
++++ Copy to Inclination_90-3.reg copy above do not copy this line ++++

This has a little less acceleration around 2-3 about the same at 3 and a little more around 4+

It is hard to know what needs changing. Might have to tune it a bit more. Let me know.
In particular which DEVICE MOVEMENT need a speedier CURSOR MOVEMENT and which needs a slower.

Thank you dude, it worked for me,,,

 

[robertsmom]

just wanted to thank Eshan for his reply/suggestion listed above. I didn't have a gamer issue, but his suggestion let me to the Ease of Access center and for me unclicking the Activate a Window... option fixed my problem. Thanks.

 

[larryq22]

To access "run": click on start globe, right click in area above "shutdown" button, choose properties, start menu tab, customize button, scroll down to find checkbox for "run command". Then it will show up on the start menu.

 

[dizzm]

I'm having issues with the "MarkC_Windows7+Vista+XP_MouseFix_Builder".

On the 2nd prompt it says "Enter the desktop Control Panel, Display, text size (DPI) that will be used".

I put in 1600 and it says invalid??? How is text size a dpi that makes no sense to me. What am I suppose to put for a Control Panel value? A display value? Am I suppose to put comma's between them? Or am i just suppose to put the text size that the Display shows from the Control Panel? If that is the case then the comma's from this prompt need to be removed. in order to be proper grammer and not confusing.

And what does test_flatline do to the registry? There is nothing in the readme about this registry file.

Some help would be appreciated.

 

[Mark C]

The text size is usually 96 for XP and Vista and 100% for Windows 7.
The builder program puts your current DPI into the dialog for you (it should), so just click OK and accept the value it suggests.

See these links to see for yourself what your text size (DPI) is:
Step 1 only of : How to change the DPI on Windows 7.
Steps 1-2 only of : How to change the DPI on Vista.
Steps 1-3 only of : How to change the DPI on XP.

The commas are supposed to be shorthand for:
1) Go to the Control Panel,
2) Go to the Display properties page,
3) Look at the text size (DPI) option.

TestFlatline.reg is a deliberately damaged curve used for testing only.
If you are not sure that registry mouse fixes are being loaded properly, then load TestFlatline.reg, reboot or logout, enable Enhanced pointer precision and your mouse response should be crap. If it is not crap, then there is somehow a problem applying registry mouse fixes.
If you are not sure if a particular video game needs a fix, then load TestFlatline.reg, reboot or logout, DISABLE Enhanced pointer precision and run your game. If the in-game mouse response is crap, then your game needs a mouse fix.
("Crap" == severely speed limited.)

 

[dizzm]

Ah ok thanks that clears things up. I gave this to my friend as well but he got some sort of vbs script error but he's on Vista. For some reason there is two different versions of this Mark C fix out there and one seems to have all the different text sizes already in separate registry files. I had him use the other one for win7 with the 100% registry file and that seemed to work without any errors. Do you think that's going to be a problem though since you said Vista is usually 96%?

 

[Mark C]

I'd be very interested in what that VBS error was, so that I can fix it!

Using one of the pre-built Mark C Windows 7 registry fixes on Vista WILL remove all acceleration, BUT response will not be exactly 1-to-1. He probably won't notice the difference, but if it were me, I'd want exact 1-to-1.

He can use the Cheese Mouse Fix specific to his in-game screen refresh rate, which will give him exact 1-to-1 (ESR - Hardware Forum).

OR, you can build a Vista REG file for him!
Run the builder VBS on your system, but select XP/Vista instead, and get him to tell you the values he uses (DPI, in-game refresh rate, etc), and the VBS won't import it into your PC, but the created REG file can then be sent to him. It will give exactly 1-to-1, assuming he tells you the correct in-game screen refresh rate he uses.

Please do let me know what his VBS error is.

 

[maffiakillen]

mouse cursor jumping, little to right little to left when I move the m

@Mark C!

Hey Mark C! I wondering why my mouse corsor is jumping all the way zick zack? /\/\/\/\/\/\/\

A turned back to my earlier default settings very quikly. I wondering if it happens to you too,,, A read in Maggys post too, she has talking about jumping mouse cursor...

Could you possiblie figure out why the mouse is changing...

I am using wirelss usb opticalmouse... Windows7 ultimate, and the screen DPI is 125%. My laptop has Full HD 1920x1080. I feel that the mouse is very slow althoug I use maximum in setting.. Actually not very slow, but for me is slow enough to want it get faster... I am not a gamer...

Regards

No need for reply... made reserch and will check now... If I don't return it means that me and you succeded...

 

[Formal de Hyde]

Thank you to Mark C for the helpful advice. I tried the registry file you proposed to Maggy and it is certainly a step in the right direction for me--using a trackball on large screens.

If you ever have time some sort of reg file builder that allowed a person to specify slope of each segment of the line would be very handy!!

All the best

 

[DonH]

Thanks Eshan,
It was the acceleration that was causing me to drag and drop a portion of the text I was trying to highlight. It was driving me crazy as cutting and pasting code is a big part of my day.

 

[Amarganth]

Hmmmm, well I've just tried out the theory that windows 7 has acceleration with "enhance pointer precision" disabled...and it's not true. As a matter of fact, I've tested it for hours within windows and games likes Counter Strike...there is no acceleration if I disable the "enhance pointer precision." True, it might be because I'm using CoolerMaster's Inferno mouse...but no matter the DPI I use there is no acceleration.

 

[Mark C]

Hmmmm, well I've just tried out the theory that windows 7 has acceleration with "enhance pointer precision" disabled...and it's not true. As a matter of fact, I've tested it for hours within windows and games likes Counter Strike...there is no acceleration if I disable the "enhance pointer precision." True, it might be because I'm using CoolerMaster's Inferno mouse...but no matter the DPI I use there is no acceleration.

It depends on the game.

You don't say which CS version you use, but as commonly setup, you are right and they don't have acceleration.

(Details:
CS 1.6 with -noforcemspd or -noforcemparms launch option and "Enhance pointer precision" disabled does NOT have acceleration.

CS:Source WITHOUT the -useforcedmparms launch option and "Enhance pointer precision" disabled does NOT have acceleration.)

 

[Wasp]

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Dead thread.

 

[Wasp]

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Dead thread.

 

[Mark C]

Another post removed.
Dead thread.

It's not dead, it's just a little sluggish!

As far as I know, games can use a joystick two ways: via DirectInput, or the joystick emulates a mouse.
Your game seems to use the joystick as an emulated mouse.
You might try your game config or support groups or manual to see if it can support a joystick directly through DirectInput.

Increasing the sensitivity in the builder makes the curve steeper. Easiest is to forget the curve and know that larger sensitivity values make the pointer or in-game view move FASTER and smaller sensitivity values are SLOWER.

There is some chance that a UI that allows you to pull and push the curve about might happen in the future. I have a prototype (In Excel) already written, but want the user to be able to immediately test the new curve without having to save it, import it, reboot and then find it is crap and needs tweaking...

 

[snsz]

Hello every readers.

MarkC i followed all the instructions in your .txt file, and i still notice some acceleration. I can tell by the FPS games i do play, before on Windows XP had around game sensitivity of "2.8" to make a 180 degree move with all acceleration disabled, now on Win 7 with the same sensitivity and with your .reg file applied it almost makes me a 360 degree move, if you could help me i would appreciate. The procedure i made was clicking the .reg file appropriated to my dpi after unticking the "enhace pointer precision" option.

PS: i used the CPL MouseFix on the Win XP Back than.

Thanks in advance.

 

[Mark C]

snsz wrote:
> PS: i used the CPL MouseFix on Win XP

CPL has a different in-built sensitivity (scaling) than the MarkC fixes, and XP scales mouse input differently than Windows 7 does, so those two things will cause a difference in sensitivity between XP with CPL and W7 with MarkC.

MAYBE that difference is what you are feeling? (or maybe not...)

What monitor refresh rate did you use in-game on XP? 60Hz, 75Hz, 120Hz?
What Font Size did you use on XP?

(Almost always people use the standard "Small fonts" =96 size on XP, and you would know if you have set it to "Large fonts" =120 or not.
Instructions at this link show how to find out the XP font size:
How to change the DPI on XP.
If you are not sure, you almost certainly have the standard "Small fonts", 96.)

You can calculate the CPL sensitivity (scaling) from your XP in-game refesh rate and font DPI:

CPI sens = 4.24 * Refresh / DPI / 3.5

For example, if you had a 60Hz monitor and the standard "Small fonts" (96) DPI:

CPI sens = 4.24 * 60 / 96 / 3.5
~= 0.757
(That means that 1 count of on-mouse-pad mouse movement caused 0.757 pixels of desktop pointer movement with CPL.)

If you had "Large fonts" (120), then CPI sens = 4.24 * 60 / 120 / 3.5 = ~0.606.
(That means that 1 count of on-mouse-pad mouse movement caused 0.606 pixels of desktop pointer movement with CPL.)

The MarkC fixes are exact 1-to-1, so 1 mouse count = 1 desktop pixel, which is a larger movement than you were getting with CPL on XP.
(32% larger when using "Small fonts" and 60Hz and 65% larger when using "Large fonts" and 60Hz.)

If the above above explains the differences you feel, then I suggest setting your in-game sensitivity a bit lower so that you get the same response you had with CPL/XP.

If the above does not explain what you feel, then I'm not sure.
If, for testing, ou turn EPP ON, set Control Panel to the middle 6/11 and then MouseMovementRecorder.exe show no accel, then the fix IS working, and the explanation must be somewhere else...

 

[snsz]

Thanks MarkC, that explains it i guess! i had 60hz and default dpi on xp, which is the "small fonts". But than how am i feeling a little acceleration still? :/ (placebo?)
I guess the fix is working, anyways i had the same sensitivity and feeling with the EPP unticked (Win 7 already) before i clicked the fix, and i readed that there is still some little acceleration with EPP off in win 7. Placebo ;p ? probably, but getting on my nerves
Thank You


PS: got a Logitech MX-518 mouse