Windows Browser Ballot, What really happens.

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So the rollout has begun and every PC user in Europe running XP, Vista or Windows 7 will shortly see the new browser ballot screen, if they’ve not seen it already. Last night I got my update and along with it, a few surprises.
The first surprise was the apparent optionality of the update. In Windows update Microsoft Browser Choice Screen Update for EEA Users of Windows was unticked. Presumably this would only remain so for a short period of time before it becomes mandatory.
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Windows Browser Ballot, What really happens | Windows 7 News
 

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yes. I haven't installed the update. Can't see any reason to as I am happy with Chrome and FF.
I see what you mean though. One would have thought it would be mandatory to satisfy the legal requirement.
Total noobs are not going to understand what this is about.
 

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Well I'm happy with my browser, (opera), and to be honest have this, IE, Firefox, safari, and chrome installed - So I downloaded the KB and installed just to see what would happen - and so far the winner is ......

Nothing has happened.

It does appear that this update will not do anything unless you are actually using IE8 as shipped with win7 :)
 

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I've received the update, but have not downloaded or installed it and have no intention of doing so. I have set it as hidden as I am quite happy with IE8. Why should the EU dictate what browser I should be using? That is my perogative just as it is everyone elses. The fact that MS include IE in their OSes does not mean that you have to use IE - the choice is already yours.

I wonder if the EU will go after Apple and the MAC for the same reason? After all, they include Safari as their browser. In addition, what about the severely restrictive practice of only allowing the OS to install on specified hardware (and the high prices resulting from this)?
 

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It does appear that this update will not do anything unless you are actually using IE8 as shipped with win7 :)

I can confirm this, at least according to my own experiences.

I've seen the ballot only in systems where IE8 is the default browser. Rigs with another default browser have yet not shown the ballot, although it is installed on all my rigs.

Have not yet tested what happens if I make IE8 default on a rig that has up to now not shown the ballot, where I have another default browser.

Kari
 

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yes. I haven't installed the update. Can't see any reason to as I am happy with Chrome and FF.
I see what you mean though. One would have thought it would be mandatory to satisfy the legal requirement.
Total noobs are not going to understand what this is about.

making it mandatory would defeat the entire reason why the eu went after microsoft in the first place, and would make the eu no better than microsoft. the keywords are "users choice".
 

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Well, it is the second time for me i do install this Kb... after all i'm using IE8 and no other browser...the first time i did set IE8 as my browser, did the same two day ago...It was just a pop-up windows, then, when done it was away (till the next kb). I mean here in the EU they did restrictive law to MS...forced him to do that.

I had my Win 7 install fully shipped with machine, Windows Media player and IE8 all integrated, so why i shouldn't play the game.

At least i didn't had to install the w. media player and some other compatibility patches and IE8....That's my choice shared ! EU can't blame me for my choice....it will never be too late for me to change browser or the windows media player...despite their restrictice laws....Am i still a noob or naive? perhaps....
 

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Well, it was never really about any fear of the evil Microsoft "monopoly" anyways...just political correctness and govt. grandstanding gone amuck. In the U.S., in my home state of CT, our esteemed Atty General made great hoopla about going after Microsoft for their evil ways, and how spending <I>millions</I> in state taxpayer money to pursue this case would save all of us unfortunate "victims" all kinds of money...

Unlike the EU, the govt. "findings" and subsequent slap at MS, so that they could proclaim that they accomplished something did not even result in anything as draconian as this! I am still waiting for my govt windfall from the tax money spent pursuing this silly case...not one red cent that I can find...

I am all for anyone using any browser with Windows that they wish, why not? However, i find it incredibly stupid to villanize MS for including their own browser...as mentioned, Apple, rightly so, does the same. I think in today's computing world, with "cloud computing", and the fact that we do almost nothing on our computers that does not directly or indirectly involve Internet access, it is just plain silly to state that a browser is not an integral part of an OS!

Further, for those of us that go back a few years or more, I remember when you had to buy a browser for the world wide web! It was Microsoft's inclusion of IE that changed the paradigm. In fact, a number of "features" that we now expect and take for granted in our OS, be it Windows, OS/10, even Linux, are apps or applets that we once had to purchase separately. Much ado about nothing.
 

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In the interests of Science, i downloaded the browser ballot, and nothing happened (as expected, FF is my default browser) then i set IE as default and restarted, still nothing happened, so obviously its a one shot thing
 

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In the interests of Science, i downloaded the browser ballot, and nothing happened (as expected, FF is my default browser) then i set IE as default and restarted, still nothing happened, so obviously its a one shot thing
Lol, nice idea and thanks for letting us know; and FF here too ;)
 

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OK, I have now tested different scenarios. Here are the conclusions:
  • If the Windows machine has any other browser than IE installed prior to the first boot after installing the update, ballot is not shown. IE can but must not be the default browser, it seems the ballot assumes the choice is made when user has installed additional browsers
  • If the Windows machine has only IE installed prior to the first boot after installing the update, the ballot of 12 browsers is shown:
    Browser_Ballot_1.PNG

    Browser_Ballot_2.PNG

    Browser_Ballot_3.PNG

    Browser_Ballot_4.PNG

  • Even if the user wants to keep IE as the only (default) browser and chooses not to install any additional browser, he / she must 'install' IE by clicking the appropriate button. If user chooses not to install any browser, not even IE, but instead closes the window it causes IE to disappear from Start Menu and Taskbar:

    Browser_ballot_5.PNG

    User must in this case manually re-pin IE to Start Menu and Taskbar, although it disappears once again after next reboot if again no browser is chosen.
  • If the user chooses IE, which is of course already installed, he's brought to this page:
    Browser_Ballot_6.PNG
  • If user chooses to install any other browser, the download starts automatically
  • Ballot appears after every reboot until a browser is chosen and installed. On one of my systems the ballot was not shown after reboot though no browser was chosen, reason is a complete mystery to me. In this case the ballot had to be manually started by clicking its shortcut on Desktop

Kari
 
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Great you posted the screenshots...i'd forgot to slide the bar to see more choices...yes IE had to be re-pin in the taskbar.
 

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Thanks Kari for the detailed info. Great stuff! :)
 

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This is ridiculous. Who is the EU, and what place do they have in the computer world? I hate when a government gets involved in matters that don't involve them. Why should MS be forced to offer their competitors products, while other companies skate free? That is like going to McDonald's and picking up a Whooper. It is astounding to me that MS even agreed to this.
 

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Great report, Kari. Even though it does not affect me; I enjoyed the learning experience.
 

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One of the more annoying aspects of this is (unintetionally) IE users are being forced to upgrade to IE8.
I still use IE6 on my work PC due to compatibility issues with custom built software. If I choose on the ballot screen to stick with IE, it automatically assumes I need IE8!

So moved my work PC to FF as the default browser and have kept IE6 for when I need to access my other software.

I would also like the EU to tackle the IMMORAL behaviour of Apple by including Quicktime with their iTunes software.
 

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