XP download for dual boot instead of XP Mode?

[Pynda]

I'm beginning to gather that XP Mode is going to be a real loser for performance based XP apps. Am I going to have any hassles with Microsoft using my Win7 Pro or Ultimate license to also get a fully independent version of XP? Or is the XP image you download only scripted to work with XP Mode somehow (would need to use elaborate workarounds, etc.)?

Thanks. The way I read it I will be fine. But I'd like to know for sure before I shell out the $300.

 

[swarfega]

What would you likely be installing on XP mode? Also could you fill in your system specs so we can ascertain how well your computer would cope.

 

[Tews]

Like any VM environment, performance will depend on your system memory and what CPU you are using. Having Windows 7 installed does not entitle you to an independent version of Windows XP.. You will have to get that on your own.

 

[Pynda]

Games and BOINC come to mind immediately.

And sorry for the no specs. I just registered here, and haven't had the time to fill those in yet (but I also didn't see that as particularly relevant to the question). However I have an E8400 Wolfdale oc'd to a very stable 4ghz, 4 gigs ram, and an Nvidia 8800 GTS w/700 something ram.

 

[swarfega]

Games are out for a start. There is no virtual software that I know of that will be able to play games.

The CPU and ram are fine otherwise for xp mode.

 

[Pynda]

Well there's this from Cnet:

More on Windows 7's 'XP Mode' | Beyond Binary - CNET News

At its core, XP mode consists of two things, the Windows Virtual PC engine and a licensed copy of Windows XP Service Pack 3 as a packaged virtual machine. Although neither piece will be included in the Windows 7 box, XP Mode will be a free download for those who have a license to Windows 7 Professional, Windows 7 Enterprise, or Windows 7 Ultimate.

And I read that those with separate copies of XP will not have to buy the Pro Or Ultimate version of Win7 to use XP Mode if they wish to.

So you're saying that the XP download is an altered version of it? Are you sure about that? And that I couldn't even install an older version of XP that I already own and use my new Win7 license number with it? Because apparently even XP Mode users do have to enter the Win7 license a second time when they install XP in XP Mode.

 

[swarfega]

XP Mode does not ask for a key at any time during its installation.

 

[logicearth]

It greatly depends on the game. Older games (Windows 98 era maybe) would run pretty well. Newer games that require a lot from the hardware, esp graphic cards would have some trouble. However, I'm talking with experience with VMware Workstation not Windows Virtual PC.

 

[Pynda]

Yeah, I'm a hardcore gamer Logic and I already have several games I know are not going to run on Win7. I do have an OEM XP license that I can certainly use for dual booting right now, but I was hoping to future proof myself with the full Win7 retail license.

If Microsoft isn't really giving me an XP license like they imply with Pro or Ultimate, then fine. I won't buy it and save myself the $100. The twits.

 

[logicearth]

If Microsoft isn't really giving me an XP license like they imply with Pro or Ultimate, then fine. I won't buy it and save myself the $100. The twits.

They didn't promise you would get Windows XP itself, but a virtual machine pre-validated copy of Windows XP. There is a difference.

 

[Pynda]

They didn't promise you would get Windows XP itself, but a virtual machine pre-validated copy of Windows XP. There is a difference.

A complete installation of XP is going on the machine with XP mode anyway. Yet they are going lose my purchase of a more expensive version of Win7 because they are (apparently) going to insist that I use an inefficient install method vs. one that would actually work for users like me.

To me that just seems dumb. And I'm actually one of the owners of the company. Maybe I should give Ballmer a call and tell him I'm going to vote my 400 shares to have him thrown out. I bet that would get some quick action...

 

[Antman]

Maybe I should give Ballmer a call and tell him I'm going to vote my 400 shares to have him thrown out. I bet that would get some quick action...

It would. A chortle, a click. Dial tone.

 

[1goodspud]

First of all, I have to say this forum is fascinating. there is a TON of helpful knowledge around here. Yes, I'm a newbie.
I'm running a home build Pentium 4H 3.0 ghz with 2 gig of ram and an old radeon 300X. Dual booting with winxp and RC1 is a breeze. I've had no problem with mutli-tasking. No freezes or stalls anywhere. Is the full version of Win 7 ultimate going to work this easy for me? Cause it's going on here Oct. 23rd and I won't be worrying about a virtualized XP that my pentium can't handle.

 

[Tews]

You will have no problems .. I have almost the same setup..

 

[TemperingPick]

Yeah, I tried it out and then found out that my CPU did not work with it but really I can just get XP if I really need it.

 

[1goodspud]

Awesome! Thanks Tews!

 

[03hdfatboy]

I downloaded it..installed it, and it works quite well for me. I'm using duel monitors and from what I can tell that is the way to go, I can drag from win7 desktop to xp desktop. It's like having a duel boot PC but at the same time. I did find out one thing though..The only way I could get it to run was with a fresh install of the win7 untouched ISO