Take Ownership Shortcut

Brink · Jan 22, 2013

If the owner of the System32 folder is not "TrustedInstaller", then you took ownership of it.

goja · Jan 22, 2013

Are you saying the trusted installer SHOULDN'T appear anymore in security tab?

Brink · Jan 22, 2013

I'm saying the System32 folder should have "TrustedInstaller" as the owner. If it doesn't, then you changed the owner of it.

Don't change it back to "TrustedInstaller" if it has been changed though. You do not want to change the owner of all files and subfolders in System32 to "TrustedInstaller". This is why it's not recommended to do this since it's impossible to reset the owner back to default with as many files and subfolders in System32 without breaking something.

chazcon · Jan 23, 2013

very cool. Is there a utility that manages ownerships and permissions? i spend so much time screwing with them when transferring files between my own 3 computers. So frustrating at times. i imagine i should create a new user name and add it as an owner to all 3 comps.

goja · Jan 23, 2013

Brink said:
I'm saying the System32 folder should have "TrustedInstaller" as the owner. If it doesn't, then you changed the owner of it.

Don't change it back to "TrustedInstaller" if it has been changed though. You do not want to change the owner of all files and subfolders in System32 to "TrustedInstaller". This is why it's not recommended to do this since it's impossible to reset the owner back to default with as many files and subfolders in System32 without breaking something.

And how I know it's the owner? It has this right only now "site file content" USERS got same as well as reading. Rest seems to have nothing.

Brink · Jan 23, 2013

chazcon said:
very cool. Is there a utility that manages ownerships and permissions? i spend so much time screwing with them when transferring files between my own 3 computers. So frustrating at times. i imagine i should create a new user name and add it as an owner to all 3 comps.

Hello Chazcon,

OPTION THREE in the tutorial below can show you how to manually set ownership and permission of items.
Take Ownership of file
I would recommend that you create a restore point first. This way if you make a mistake, you could do a system restore to quickly undo it.

Hope this helps,

Shawn

Brink · Jan 23, 2013

goja said:
Brink said:

I'm saying the System32 folder should have "TrustedInstaller" as the owner. If it doesn't, then you changed the owner of it.

Don't change it back to "TrustedInstaller" if it has been changed though. You do not want to change the owner of all files and subfolders in System32 to "TrustedInstaller". This is why it's not recommended to do this since it's impossible to reset the owner back to default with as many files and subfolders in System32 without breaking something.

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And how I know it's the owner? It has this right only now "site file content" USERS got same as well as reading. Rest seems to have nothing.

While in the "Security" tab, click on the "Advanced" button and "Owner" tab. You'll see who the owner is under "Current owner" like below. This is from OPTION THREE in the tutorial below to help give more details.

Take Ownership of file

goja · Jan 23, 2013

Ok it's trusted installer.

Brink · Jan 23, 2013

Good. No worries then.

chazcon · Jan 23, 2013

Brink said:
Hello Chazcon,

OPTION THREE in the tutorial below can show you how to manually set ownership and permission of items. Take Ownership of file
I would recommend that you create a restore point first. This way if you make a mistake, you could do a system restore to quickly undo it.

Hope this helps,
Shawn

Thanks Brink, I'm using a reg tweak (Mark's from these forums) to take ownership. But it's more than that.

Background info: I have (3) computers, work desktop, personal desktop, and a laptop for travel. One has Windows 8 (which is horrible and I will be changing out to Windows 7 this week), the other two Windows 7. I work variously off all three computers. So I use Synchronize It! and sync to a flash drive that I pack around with me.

I've used this 3rd party app and my flash drive system for years. Our company currently does not operate off a MS Exchange server which would make our lives easier, all working off central files but I am working on that.

Anyway, my problem is I'll sync my work PC to my flash drive, go to my home computer, attempt a sync and it won't open some files that have the ownership of my work login and not my personal login. Or, vice versa, i'll work from my home PC and sync, go to the office and I can't access my changed files. It's becoming hell and I'm wondering what has changed recently for me, I rarely had this issue in the past.

I'm scowling at Windows 8 but truly it must be a user issue. One thing I've changed recently is to format my flash drive from FAT32 to NTFS in order to be able to sync my Outlook.pst file, which is very large and over the FAT32 allowable size limit for a single file. I suspect that my flash drive formatted in NTFS now is also carrying over NTFS permissions where it didn't before on FAT32 - does that sound like a possible cause?

Also in Synchronize It! there is an option to 'Copy NTFS Permissions', I'm in a quandry now whether I should or should not be copying permissions.

How I wish I could turn permissions and permission checks completely off! I have the UAC off but that is a separate thing.

Each time I sync I have to go through my files and take ownership, it's a time killer and I have no time to do this.

I'd love to know of a 3rd party app that can manage permissions across all files and multiple computers.

Brink · Jan 23, 2013

chazcon said:
Brink said:

Hello Chazcon,

OPTION THREE in the tutorial below can show you how to manually set ownership and permission of items.
Take Ownership of file
I would recommend that you create a restore point first. This way if you make a mistake, you could do a system restore to quickly undo it.

Hope this helps,
Shawn

Click to expand...

Thanks Brink, I'm using a reg tweak (Mark's from these forums) to take ownership. But it's more than that.

Background info: I have (3) computers, work desktop, personal desktop, and a laptop for travel. One has Windows 8 (which is horrible and I will be changing out to Windows 7 this week), the other two Windows 7. I work variously off all three computers. So I use Synchronize It! and sync to a flash drive that I pack around with me.

I've used this 3rd party app and my flash drive system for years. Our company currently does not operate off a MS Exchange server which would make our lives easier, all working off central files but I am working on that.

Anyway, my problem is I'll sync my work PC to my flash drive, go to my home computer, attempt a sync and it won't open some files that have the ownership of my work login and not my personal login. Or, vice versa, i'll work from my home PC and sync, go to the office and I can't access my changed files. It's becoming hell and I'm wondering what has changed recently for me, I rarely had this issue in the past.

I'm scowling at Windows 8 but truly it must be a user issue. One thing I've changed recently is to format my flash drive from FAT32 to NTFS in order to be able to sync my Outlook.pst file, which is very large and over the FAT32 allowable size limit for a single file. I suspect that my flash drive formatted in NTFS now is also carrying over NTFS permissions where it didn't before on FAT32 - does that sound like a possible cause?

Also in Synchronize It! there is an option to 'Copy NTFS Permissions', I'm in a quandry now whether I should or should not be copying permissions.

How I wish I could turn permissions and permission checks completely off! I have the UAC off but that is a separate thing.

Each time I sync I have to go through my files and take ownership, it's a time killer and I have no time to do this.

I'd love to know of a 3rd party app that can manage permissions across all files and multiple computers.

Chazcon,

Yep, if it's NTFS formatted, then permissions will be applied to it as well.

You might give using "Synchronize It" a try without the 'Copy NTFS Permissions' option. It may be replacing any previous permission settings you made for it.

You might also add the "Everyone" group and set it's permissions to "Full Control" to see if that may help.

chazcon · Jan 26, 2013

Brink said:
Chazcon,

Yep, if it's NTFS formatted, then permissions will be applied to it as well.

You might give using "Synchronize It" a try without the 'Copy NTFS Permissions' option. It may be replacing any previous permission settings you made for it.

You might also add the "Everyone" group and set it's permissions to "Full Control" to see if that may help.

Will try those options.

To be clear, if my flash drive is formatted as FAT32, it will basically 'scrub' permissions from files that are copied to it? That is how my syncing 'system' used to work, I seems I didn't have this permission hell when it was formatted FAT32. If that's true I'll go back to FAT32 on my flash drive and use a different solution for my large files that are over the FAT32 single file size limit.

Brink · Jan 26, 2013

Yep, that's correct.

endeavor · Jan 28, 2013

Hey Hi Brink,

Just wanted to run this by you.
Using your ditty I was just going to take ownership of a single folder inside of
C:\Windows\System32\DriverStore\FileRepository
...and delete it, but it's late and in a hurry I mistakenly right clicked on the whole FileRepository folder instead and took ownership of that whole folder instead, LoL, and it went through and did exactly that. I didn't delete anything at that point.

My question is I don't think it really matters and won't hurt anything taking ownership of that entire FileRepository folder will it?

If yes I can easily restore the OS partition image back to yesterday if it does matter, that's no big deal, but I wanted to ask you about the specifics just to make sure.

Thanks

Brink · Jan 29, 2013

Hey mate,

It's not going to make any difference other than that folder and it's contents being less secured now that anything running while you are logged on to your account will also have access to it.

If you happen to have a restore point dated right before you did it, then a system restore using it could quickly undo it.

I don't see a need to do a system image recovery unless you just wanted to though.

endeavor · Jan 29, 2013

Hi Brink,

During work today I had decided I was just going to do a partition restore, luckily I just had made an image the very day before so it's no big deal and takes just a few minutes.
My local System Restore is always turned off.

It wouldn't hurt anything to leave it I know that, but it's just the principle I guess, and that I had only meant to do it on a single folder inside the FileRepository folder not the whole darn thing.

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I had downloaded my reg at the Vista forum previously, but I see you have it here on 7 too.
fwiw, the screenshot of it on page 1 is a little different than reality, and so must of been the first builds screenshot from Mark where you hadn't yet added in the context icon via imageres.dll yet. Okay but I see you have the icon'd screenshot over at the Vista forum.

Anyway, nice to say hello again and thanks for the reply

Brink · Jan 29, 2013

Screenshot now updated.

chazcon · Feb 1, 2013

Quick update: All is well, after going back to a FAT32 format on my flash drive. Also I realize we are able to set a different (larger) file allocation size, so now I have what I needed, a flash drive file sync solution that handles my large files as well, with no NTFS permission hell.

Brink, thank you for your help.

Brink · Feb 1, 2013

That's great news Chazcon. Thank you for posting back with your results.

adel casper · Apr 28, 2013

ohhhh yyyyyyyyyes !!!!
thanks so much...

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