Done with Firefox...

JonM33 · Jul 15, 2010

I had this happen with Firefox 3.6.3 on June 15. I only had about 6-7 tabs open on it but it was acting very sluggish in performance just scrolling through web pages.

Then yesterday, twice the Firefox process was maxing out one of my cores at 100% with only 6-7 tabs open. I rebooted and eventually it came back again. Given, I have a quad core so the rest of my system was fine but Firefox had slowed to a crawl.

So since yesterday evening I have switched to Opera 10.60. I gotta say that I am quite impressed with it.

mohammed yasser · Jul 15, 2010

i hate firefox it now work good for win 7 on xp i work fine it always lag on win7

pparks1 · Jul 15, 2010

Huh...I rarely have issues with Firefox.

eldinv · Jul 15, 2010

No problems here.

JonM33 · Jul 15, 2010

pparks1 said:
Huh...I rarely have issues with Firefox.

I tend to open and close a lot of tabs and leave my browser running 24/7 as I leave my PC running 24/7. As you can see with the screenshot, 1.3GB of physical memory used. The only extension I ran was Adblock Plus.

Regarding the high CPU usage for the process, I don't know what was causing it. But it was just another step in the wrong direction for Firefox. Apparently it's a known problem: http://support.mozilla.com/en-US/kb/Firefox+consumes+a+lot+of+CPU+resources

pparks1 · Jul 15, 2010

JonM33 said:
pparks1 said:

Huh...I rarely have issues with Firefox.

Click to expand...

I tend to open and close a lot of tabs and leave my browser running 24/7 as I leave my PC running 24/7. As you can see with the screenshot, 1.3GB of physical memory used. The only extension I ran was Adblock Plus.

Regarding the high CPU usage for the process, I don't know what was causing it. But it was just another step in the wrong direction for Firefox.

I often go multiple days, sometimes weeks at work without a reboot and I use Firefox exclusively with tabs and I have never seen a runaway like that.

mohammed yasser · Jul 15, 2010

i think chrome is much better then firefox

CarlTR6 · Jul 15, 2010

pparks1 said:
Huh...I rarely have issues with Firefox.
I often go multiple days, sometimes weeks at work without a reboot and I use Firefox exclusively with tabs and I have never seen a runaway like that.

Likewise with my home computer which runs 24/7 with multiple tab open.

JonM33 · Jul 15, 2010

pparks1 said:
I often go multiple days, sometimes weeks at work without a reboot and I use Firefox exclusively with tabs and I have never seen a runaway like that.

CarlTR6 said:
Likewise with my home computer which runs 24/7 with multiple tab open.

Glad to hear that. I searched Google and found that I wasn't the only one with the problem though. Which means it is a common issue (see the link I added to my post). Mozilla's fix seems to be don't browse websites with plug-ins or scripts. Sure, let's go back to 1994 and basic HTML websites. :sarc:

pparks1 · Jul 15, 2010

JonM33 said:
Glad to hear that. I searched Google and found that I wasn't the only one with the problem though. Which means it is a common issue (see the link I added to my post). Mozilla's fix seems to be don't browse websites with plug-ins or scripts. Sure, let's go back to 1994 and basic HTML websites. :sarc:

Even a handful of people complaining about something on the Internet does not make something a common issue. Remember, those with problems are always the most vocal.

While I don't doubt that you are experiencing issues here....it could be something on your box, your setup, or some particular sites that you go to exposing this issue.

Great news is that there are choices when it comes to browsers. We don't all have to use, like, endorse, or support the same one.

JonM33 · Jul 15, 2010

pparks1 said:
Even a handful of people complaining about something on the Internet does not make something a common issue. Remember, those with problems are always the most vocal.

Of course they are. Why would anyone not having problems be vocal to complain about something?

pparks1 said:
While I don't doubt that you are experiencing issues here....it could be something on your box, your setup, or some particular sites that you go to exposing this issue.

Please understand that I am not a noob with computers. I am well aware of variables that can cause problems. It's not my "box" or my "setup". Even Mozilla's KB doesn't point in that direction. My Firefox is pretty much a vanilla install. The only extension I use is Adblock Plus.

I use my browser for a LOT of things. If Firefox cannot handle that without bad memory leaks or high CPU usage then it's not a viable solution for me to use.

This isn't some browser competition nor does telling me, "I don't have any problem," or, "Works fine for me," help in any way, shape or form. That is the worst statement that anyone can make. Maybe when FF4.0 comes out I will give it another round and see if it can hold up without taxing resources.

Petey7 · Jul 15, 2010

I was done with Firefox when 2.0 came out. For some reason after installing it, I could no longer login to any website. This coupled with the fact that it always bugged me while doing school work anything else I considered important about updates for it having to install. I could look at useless crap for days with no issue. First time I actually needed to look something up, I'd get a pop-up. After that I switched between various browsers until Chrome came out. Never going back.

DirtRider · Jul 15, 2010

I had a look at Chrome but found it too basic, does not seem to be able to do much. Maybe I just did not play with it long enough

win7clutz · Jul 15, 2010

pparks1 said:
JonM33 said:

Glad to hear that. I searched Google and found that I wasn't the only one with the problem though. Which means it is a common issue (see the link I added to my post). Mozilla's fix seems to be don't browse websites with plug-ins or scripts. Sure, let's go back to 1994 and basic HTML websites. :sarc:

Click to expand...

Even a handful of people complaining about something on the Internet does not make something a common issue. Remember, those with problems are always the most vocal.

While I don't doubt that you are experiencing issues here....it could be something on your box, your setup, or some particular sites that you go to exposing this issue.

Great news is that there are choices when it comes to browsers. We don't all have to use, like, endorse, or support the same one.

+1

Tepid · Jul 15, 2010

IE9 is coming.

JonM33 · Jul 16, 2010

DirtRider said:
I had a look at Chrome but found it too basic, does not seem to be able to do much. Maybe I just did not play with it long enough

Yes, I don't like it's download manager interface at all.

Petey7 · Jul 16, 2010

When chrome first came it out was rather basic. Now its in par with firefox in terms of features, and it uses a different process for every little thing. So if a plug-in crashes, I can usually keep doing what i'm doing as if nothing happened. Chrome eventual restarts the plug-in on its own. or I can just hit refresh and it restarts the plug-in when the page refreshes. Makes for a pretty smooth experience.

smarteyeball · Jul 16, 2010

Just out of idle curiosity, why do people leave their browsers open for days? :huh:

PC's on 24/7 I understand (and do) but not browsers.

I open and close browsers like it's going out of fashion... admittedly it's a habit that harks back to the days of using low resource rigs, but still - is it really necessary to leave a browser open for days?

It's not like they take forever to start. It also avoids these major memory leak issues with some browsers.

JonM33 · Jul 16, 2010

smarteyeball said:
Just out of idle curiosity, why do people leave their browsers open for days? :huh:

PC's on 24/7 I understand (and do) but not browsers.

I open and close browsers like it's going out of fashion... admittedly it's a habit that harks back to the days of using low resource rigs, but still - is it really necessary to leave a browser open for days?

It's not like they take forever to start. It also avoids these major memory leak issues with some browsers.

If you have 8-10 tabs open and want to visit them later, why close the browser? I know that Firefox has a setting to save tabs upon close so they can all re-open when you launch the browser again but why do that if they are already there?

Browsers shouldn't have memory leaks. That's an application and security flaw.

dood · Jul 16, 2010

I've heard about runaway memory usage with firefox...
Personally, I've never experienced it. For the record I use adblockplus noscript and cslite.
If its a scripting thing, that could be why I've never been hit with runaway memory usage. I globally whack all scripts allowing only what I want.

Ya...browsers have their problems.
Yet..on the whole? I'll stick with FF. IE is still the junk it has always been. Opera...nice browser, but lacks the plugins I enjoy.

Done with Firefox...

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