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  1. Posts : 243
    7 Ultimate x64 RTM 7600.16385
       #1

    BSOD


    Hey there, since last week Ive been experiencing a lot of BSOD. In no special circumstances, they just random. Watching videos on youtube. Browsing the internet, listen to music. I've rollbacked to the old drrives for audio and video, since I updated just a few days ago, but that seems not to be the problem becuase im getting also the BSOD.


    My system:

    HP a6720f
    Win7 Pro x64 RTM 7600.16385 (MSDNAA)
    AMD Phenom 9550 @ 2.20ghz
    4x2GB DDR2 Patriot Viper 800mhz
    Integrated GeForce 9100


    here I do attach the dump files

    If any kindly could help or give me an advise would me more than thankful!

    thanks to all you
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  2. Posts : 1,377
    Win7x64
       #2

    These are all stop 0x116 VIDEO_TDR_FAILURE conditions.

    It's not a true crash, in the sense that the bluescreen was initiated only because the combination of video driver and video hardware was being unresponsive, and not because of any synchronous processing exception.

    Since Vista, the "Timeout Detection and Recovery" (TDR) components of the OS video subsystem have been capable of doing some truly impressive things to try to recover from issues which would have caused earlier OSs like XP to crash. As a last resort, the TDR subsystem sends the video driver a "please restart yourself now!" command and waits a few seconds. If there's no response, the OS concludes that the video driver/hardware combo has truly collapsed in a heap, and it fires off that stop 0x116 BSOD.

    If playing with video driver versions hasn't helped, make sure the box is not overheating. Try removing a side panel and aiming a big mains fan straight at the motherboard and GPU. Run it like that for a few hours or days - long enough to ascertain whether cooler temperatures make a difference. If so, it might be as simple as dust buildup and subsequently inadequate cooling.
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  3. Posts : 68
    Ubuntu 10.10 64bit, Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit
       #3

    Yet another BSOD. This time I finally got a dump off of it.
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  4. Posts : 1,377
    Win7x64
       #4

    kemo said:
    Yet another BSOD. This time I finally got a dump off of it.
    I'd suggest attaching this to your own thread, both for the sake of continuity (looks like Usasma and others are already helping you), and so this thread can remain focused on the OP's issue.
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  5. Posts : 243
    7 Ultimate x64 RTM 7600.16385
    Thread Starter
       #5

    H2SO4, first of all, thanks for replied.

    I had a side panel removed already, just forgot to mentioned. And makes no difference to me. Cleaned the pc with compress air (dust remover). Funny thing this never happened in Vista before, and since i moved to win7 BSODs become constant, I think I just a driver related problem. Checked temperatures using Everest and everything seems to be fine, ran it for several hours with luck.

    any other thoughts??

    thanks, sorry for bother you guys
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  6. Posts : 1,377
    Win7x64
       #6

    Martin said:
    H2SO4, first of all, thanks for replied.

    I had a side panel removed already, just forgot to mentioned. And makes no difference to me. Cleaned the pc with compress air (dust remover). Funny thing this never happened in Vista before, and since i moved to win7 BSODs become constant, I think I just a driver related problem. Checked temperatures using Everest and everything seems to be fine, ran it for several hours with luck.

    any other thoughts??

    thanks, sorry for bother you guys
    No need to be sorry. It's a help forum. Those who're bothered by it can elect to do other things

    Unfortunately, if it's not inadequate cooling, that tends to rule out the simple stuff. The error does not distinguish between an unresponsive video driver and unresponsive video hardware, mostly because they both part of one whole from the OS's point of view.

    If experimenting with driver versions has not helped, even going back to known-good versions you used long before the problem started, I'd suggest testing what happens in "basevideo" mode - using the OS's own low-performance/high-reliability VGA driver. From an elevated (run as admin) command prompt:

    BCDEDIT /SET VGA ON

    Obviously, performance will be woeful, but the aim is to completely rule out the possibility of driver involvement. If you see the same error in basevideo, you can be 99% sure it's hardware.

    As a separate approach, you could try increasing the TDR timeout values (how long the OS is willing to wait before it declares the video card unresponsive). It's all configurable through the registry:

    http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/device...m_timeout.mspx

    You shouldn't have to mess with those values though. The defaults are hugely permissive - far more so than healthy hardware/drivers should need.

    As a last resort, I'm relatively confident you won't see the same issue if you beg/borrow/steal a different video card and use that to test. I realise you said it didn't happen in Vista previously, but these types of low-level video stuffups are difficult to troubleshoot properly without an ATI/nVidia engineer sitting in the chair next to you
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  7. Posts : 243
    7 Ultimate x64 RTM 7600.16385
    Thread Starter
       #7

    thanks again for replying I have set on low-performance, i will be using for a day or two to see the performance. let you know.

    Also, which gfx card you think its better?

    PNY nVidia Verto GeForce 8500 GT 512MB DDR2 PCI-E

    EVGA GeForce 9500 GT 1GB DDR2

    Asus nVidia GeForce 9400GT 1GB

    MSI nVidia GeForce 9400GT 1GB DDR2


    XFX ATI Radeon 4350 1GB

    Sapphire ATI Radeon HD4650 1GB

    ATI Radeon HD 4550 1GB DDR3


    thanks


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  8. Posts : 1,377
    Win7x64
       #8

    Sorry, I don't have a clue. I'm sure that others who know more about video cards will be along presently to assist.
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  9. Posts : 2,913
    Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1
       #9

    Have you installed any drivers yourself, other than video and audio? If not, have you tried installing the Vista drivers (in compatibility mode, if necessary)? This could be caused by another piece of hardware malfunctioning, so make sure to install drivers for everything. I've seen NIC drivers end up being responsible for video problems, so anything is possible.
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  10. Posts : 243
    7 Ultimate x64 RTM 7600.16385
    Thread Starter
       #10

    I did installed myself, audio, chipset, ethernet,Wifi, smbus, with the most up to date drivers available from the official sites when I installed win7 rtm about 20 days or so, problemes started just about a week ago. I've been using Nvidia's
    190.62 which is the same I had about a a month ago dual-booting win7 and win vista sp2. Driver applies for both OS.

    As I said i've set low-performance/high-reliability (BCDEDIT /SET VGA ON) and been using pc for about an hour with no BSODs (youtube, photoshop, browsing the web, listen to music) seems to be working so far now.

    Will post result later on.

    thank you guys
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