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Windows 7: Sleep Mode Still Freeze up, Win 7 RTM

13 Aug 2009   #11
Lordbob75

Windows 7 Ultimate x64, Mint 9
 
 

My laptop (using Pro and Ultimate RTM) has no issue with sleep or hibernate at all. Works great.

My desktop though, causes lots of grief. I can put it to sleep just fine.
When I try to wake it, it doesn't. The HDDs come back on (as do all the lights), but the screen stays dark. Sometimes my KB and Mouse will light up, but nothing else. Now, I can restart it, or reset it. Then when it boots, it messes up, and either locks up, or won't let me log in (or into a temporary instead). Then I have to hard shut it down, unplug it, drain it, and start over. This is ANNOYING.

~Lordbob


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14 Aug 2009   #12
LarryLaser

Windows 7 7600 x86 &x64, Windows XPP sp3 (x86) & sp2 x64
 
 
Sleep Mode sucks

I have been testing settings for just about everything.
The only thing that has helped the system is to disable the sleep mode in the Power Settings (Advanced), and keep the monitor settings enabled and the HDD's settings enabled.

I have tried many USB disable and change settings and none of them help.
Sleep Mode just sucks, every time I select Sleep in the Shut Down menu (in the start menu), the system freezes in sleep mode and will not wake up at all.
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14 Aug 2009   #13
darkassain

Windows 7 Ult x64(x2), HomePrem x32(x4), Server 08 (+VM), 08 R2 (VM) , SuSe 11.2 (VM), XP 32 (VM)
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by LarryLaser View Post
I have been testing settings for just about everything.
The only thing that has helped the system is to disable the sleep mode in the Power Settings (Advanced), and keep the monitor settings enabled and the HDD's settings enabled.

I have tried many USB disable and change settings and none of them help.
Sleep Mode just sucks, every time I select Sleep in the Shut Down menu (in the start menu), the system freezes in sleep mode and will not wake up at all.
another thing i did (although this was just a test was to see if you could overwrite some of the driver files in 7 with preferably vista sp2 ones [i only tried sp2 since i download that one from technet])
what i have done (since i downlaoded the waik recently)
was to mounnt the vista sp2 install.wim and use the drivers from there
make a backup of both your %windir%\system32\driver and %windir%\system32\driverstore\filerepository and then painfully find the driver files used, copy, restart (you will have to disable driver signing if you are x64 though) sleep and see if changes anything
(both also have to be either x86 or x64...)
from what i have seen (if you already tried disabling drivers (and as such hardware)) then it is likely these windows 7 microsoft drivers might be the cause (even more so if it works in xp or vista..)

this very tricky and so what i have done beforehand was to make a system restore image and then do the changes there...
(even if you are just changing usb drivers...)
just to show the end result using a USB driver from vista sp2 in a Win7 RTM install
Sleep Mode Still Freeze up, Win 7 RTM-vista-sp2.png

as you can see these are not signed because you still need the .cat or you need the certificate to be stored already in the Win7 rtm image....
like i said good luck...


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22 Aug 2009   #14
Vann

Windows 7 Ultimate 7600 RTM x64
 
 

When I wake up from hibernation or sleep mode I get a blank black screen. Anyone have any idea what's causing it? I have to reboot the pc to get it to work again. Really sucks as I would love to use these features.
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24 Aug 2009   #15
LarryLaser

Windows 7 7600 x86 &x64, Windows XPP sp3 (x86) & sp2 x64
 
 
Hey Vann,

Hello Vann,
Yea I have had the same type of issues in many of the version releases, mainly the from the 7000 version to the 7127 version, I did not have the problems in the 7137 and 7229 version, but the biggest problem is happening in the 7600 RTM version. Mine is from MS, I am a TechNet Subscriber. I have been reporting to MS since the beginning of this and many other bugs, and I am surprised that they have not fixed it yet.

This is what is happening on my main system layout,
When the system goes in to sleep mode some times (mostly) it will not wake up, but when it does the windows of apps running loses there proper position and most of the time the system loses one of the vid cards, and some times the monitors stay blanked (blacked out like yours).
My main system
  • Windows 7 7600 RTM x64 Ultimate
  • Gigabyte GA-965P-DS3, Intel C2Q 6600 64Bit
  • Marvell Yukon 88E8053 PCI Gigabit
  • 8 Gig Ram
  • Dual nVidia 9400 GT (PCI-e and PCI)
  • 7 HDD's @ 5.5 Terabyte (SATA II and IDE)
  • 4 Monitors 3-LCD Hanns G 19", 1-AOC 17"
These monitor issues and Network issues happen to be related to the Sleep Mode program, what I have found out is that the "Sleep Mode" is a Hybrid version of the Hibernate operation.

I have attempted setting changes in Power Settings and Network Adapter dealing with power switching for system timing and shutting them down, and to no avail. It still happens.

I have gone through Updates in the Drivers for the Graphics (nVidia 190.38 x64) and the Network driver (Marvell Yukon v11.10.7.3 for Win 7 x64). and still have the same issues.

I have run many Debugging tests and found that the issues are not problems from the hardware drivers.
What I have found so far is that when the system does go into sleep mode, and does wake up, most of the times the System (MS Operating System) does not re-activate the drivers properly, I have found that some of the internal dll's of the hardware files are not loaded and the ".sys" files are some times not loaded. The main Debugging has always returned "Vista_Driver_ID_#'s".
This is what I have constantly reported to MS and some of the Dev team members on the TechNet Forum. But have not got a response from them about a solution yet.

The only workaround I have found is to disable the Sleep and the Hibernate modes on my system. This issue has happened on many of my systems, not only one brand, I run 3 desktops and 3 laptops. I am currently building another one to run as a Server, and I will be testing it as well.

Ideally I want my Network Adapter to stay Active on my main box so I can access files from my other computers any time I need them, I want my HDD's to go to sleep when not in use so they will live for a while. And My Monitors to shut down when not in use.
All computers are Multi-Boot
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24 Aug 2009   #16
Tews

64-bit Windows 8.1 Pro
 
 

Antism #1

Patient: Doc it hurts when I do this..
Doctor: Dont do it..

I think the solution is obvious...
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24 Aug 2009   #17
Cyberwolf

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

My resolution - Stop putting your PC to sleep. PC's don't require sleep. Humans do. Nor are they bears, so they need not hibernate either.

Keep your PC entertained when your not fondling it by having it fold proteins for cancer research or have it try to brute force crack encryption...Or search for alien life
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24 Aug 2009   #18
Lordbob75

Windows 7 Ultimate x64, Mint 9
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Cyberwolf View Post
My resolution - Stop putting your PC to sleep. PC's don't require sleep. Humans do. Nor are they bears, so they need not hibernate either.

Keep your PC entertained when your not fondling it by having it fold proteins for cancer research or have it try to brute force crack encryption...Or search for alien life
I like using sleep because it reduces the heat my computer puts out while I am gone, and starts it up faster.... So I would like to use it.

~Lordbob
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24 Aug 2009   #19
darkassain

Windows 7 Ult x64(x2), HomePrem x32(x4), Server 08 (+VM), 08 R2 (VM) , SuSe 11.2 (VM), XP 32 (VM)
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Lordbob75 View Post
I like using sleep because it reduces the heat my computer puts out while I am gone, and starts it up faster.... So I would like to use it.

~Lordbob
and i certainly agree...
when you have a AMD turion X2 processor that burns up if its used too much (im usually scared of gaming with it, usually hits 90C easily..... and that is at 50 percent usage (when it turns up to the highest stepping) although 105C is when i technically i should be worrying....

one thing that ws interesting in that i found out checking the differences between vista and 7 on usb is that vista does not enable power management on usb while 7 does....
turned it off on all usb and when i had the laptop (i had to have it repaired) there were no freezes of any sort....
on the device manager most of the devices that was said to prolong bootup were all usb connected and so i guess i killed two birds with one stone...

like i said before my best build that i had no problems with (apart from wacom thing but that is a driver thing...)and this includes the sleep problem was 6801, and that was a beautiful with almost instant standby and startup (the startup was in 1 second or less, by the time i open the lid it was already ready for input...)
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24 Aug 2009   #20
Lordbob75

Windows 7 Ultimate x64, Mint 9
 
 

What is interesting is that sleep and hibernate work perfectly on my laptop, but it just breaks down my desktop.

~Lordbob
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