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Windows 7: Windows 7 popup "Consider changing your password"

21 Jan 2012   #1

Windows 7 64
Windows 7 popup "Consider changing your password"

I bought a used computer that is Windows 7. I use it without needing any password. I just turn it on and use it. There is a popup window by the clock that reads "consider changing your password it will expire in one day".

So what do I do since I have no password?

Can I make a passwrod reset onto a thumbdrive if I don't have a password at all?

Thank you for the help.

My System SpecsSystem Spec
21 Jan 2012   #2

Windows 10 Education 64 bit

You could try creating a password, log on once, and then change it back to no password. That nag screen was likely setup though the group policy editor to force employees to change there password at preset intervals. What version of windows is it? If its enterprise you may have problems with activation down the road.
My System SpecsSystem Spec
21 Jan 2012   #3

64-bit Windows 10 Pro

Hello Studiocomputer, and welcome to Seven Forums.

You might see if disabling password expiration may stop this for you so you do not have to change it or create one.

Personally, since it's a used computer, I would recommend to do a factory recovery to reinstall Windows 7 back to it's default factory state. There's no telling what else the previous owner may have set or installed on it. The link below can help show you how to if you like.

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Hope this helps,
My System SpecsSystem Spec

21 Jan 2012   #4

Windows 7 64

Thank you for the replies.

If I don;t use a password to use the computer, does that mean there is actually no password on it? I have had the computer since Tuesday and never used a password.

I did look at the folder area. I went to the control panel, family safety tab, then User accounts. It shows on this page the words Owner and a picture behind it. I changed the picture last night. I then clicked on create a password for your account to see if it would ask for an old password before allowing a new one to be entered. it did not ask for an old one. It reads "Owner Administrator" and beneath a block with the words new password and beneath it another block that says confirm password. To me this makes me think there is no password on tis computer.

Can I do a reset password disk to be safe using my thumbdirve? Does it require a password to make one?
My System SpecsSystem Spec
22 Jan 2012   #5

Windows 10 Education 64 bit

You can leave the password blank when you setup your user account. Its not recommended but people do it. You can also set a password and then set the PC to auto log you on on when windows starts. As far as I know if a password was entered you will be asked for it when you try to change it. You have to enter the old password to set a new one. If the old password was blank then you just leave it blank and enter your new password twice. If you are worried about getting locked out create a new account with a password as a backup plan. The password reset disk probably isn't a bad idea too.

EDIT: What version of Windows 7 is it? Is it Enterprise?
My System SpecsSystem Spec
22 Jan 2012   #6

Windows 7 Ultimate x64

Depending on the Windows Version you can check the "Local Security Policy". Open Control Panel, click Admistrator Tools, open Local Security Policy. On the right click "Account Polices", on the left double click "Password Policy" and then double click "Maximum Password Age" and set to Zero if it's not already. Now your passwords won't expire on any account.

If you open the run dialog, Windows Key + R, and type "control userpasswords2". This will open up a window titled "User Accounts" and at the top is a check box labeled "Users must enter a Username and Password to use this computer".
If this is unchecked then you can automatically log on even when you have a password set. This will probably depend on the Windows Version. Don't tick this if it's unticked unless you know the password which looks like you don't have one anyway as you should have been asked for an old one when you went to change password.

I wouldn't recommend the above paragraph for a laptop though.

Also there is software out there that can retrieve the password for any user account, I'm not going to tell you where to find them but it isn't too hard. Some of the better ones cost money though and some trails may allow you to recover one or two passwords only.
My System SpecsSystem Spec
22 Jan 2012   #7

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 7600

i read somewhere in the forum that it is a good idea to have a user password to stop a virus creating a password and locking you out
My System SpecsSystem Spec
22 Jan 2012   #8

Windows 10 Education 64 bit

I use passwords mainly for securing shared resources. I have shared folders on my network that I don't want guests to be able to access so they are restricted to certain users on my network. My main desktop that only I use is set to autologon with my user name and password. My laptop that I share with my wife uses the normal logon and asks for a user name and password. If I leave my desktop running unattended I just lock my desktop. Thats not so easy to do if you have no password.
My System SpecsSystem Spec
22 Jan 2012   #9

Windows 7 64


It reads Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 and below that where it talks about the brand being Sony Vaio it says 3.4 Windows Experience Index.

Regarding my other post about the password, when I go to Control Panel and User and Family Safety Tab, there is a link that says User Accounts. After clicking it, on the right the icon says Owner and beneath it Administrator. Further checking to try and set a new password just to see if it would ask for an old one it does not. It provides a way for entering a password apparently for the first time because it just asks to type in a new password. No where on that page does it ask for an old password before allowing me to change. My thinking is that there must not be a password if it allows me to make changes but not put in any old password first. Although, when the balloon by the clock did popup, I did the control alt delete and on that page it shows a block that says to put in the old password just above where it asks for a new password.

The computer has not been turned off yet and it is now a day past the time from when it said to "consider changing password will expire in 1 day". If it had a password, would it say "change your password" or does it always just give the "consider changing" message? I left the computer on so far so once I do turn it off who knows what it will do. I use my thumbdrive to make the password reset disk thinking if there is some type of password, that should get me back into it.

Is it a fact that the password reset disk will definitely get me back into the computer as long as I have the thumbdrive pw file? Or is that only a sometimes type of thing?

Not sure if I did this correctly, but I did setup another account. The top of the file area where I went to add a new account is:

Control Panel- User Accounts and Family Safety - User Account

When I click on accounts, it reads Owner (Administrator) and the new one I made csalled New Account (Administrator) and there is another account that I did not setup that shows up there that reads Guest(Guest Account is Off)

Should I turn on the guest account? If I do turn the guest account on, will the computer keep me on that page or will it automatically sign me out of the current account and then open the guest account? I don;t know so I did not click or change without knowing first so not to get locked out of this current account I am on.

I assume I am on the Administrator account because under manage accounts it opens with the icon photo and the words Owner Administrator).

On the New Account (Administrator) I did not set up a password because when I tried it said if I do that this account will loose all efs encrypted files, personal certificates, stored passwords for websites or networks resources. Don't know what that means so I did not set the New Account (Administrator) to have a password.

Anyway, like mentioned, after working, I just closed the lid so far and have not shut down the computer. I was able to get one of the projects I had pending completed and took the files off this computer and backed up to my external hard drive. But I have another one to do before possibly getting locked out.

This is a terrible feature in my opinion, but regardless what I think right now I need to work through this part and get it resolved.

I'll read back through the comments everyone posted.

Any further info is appreciated especially knowing the answer to:

Is it a fact that the password reset disk will definitely get me back into the computer as long as I have the thumbdrive pw file? Or is that only a sometimes type of thing?

Should I turn on the guest account?

Thank you.
My System SpecsSystem Spec
23 Jan 2012   #10

W7 Ultimate SP1, LM18.3 MATE, W10 Home, #All 64 bit

Do you have an external HDD and/or a 2nd internal HDD?
You should probably make a backup image of your OS (in case of disaster).

You could use the built-in Windows tool or download a program like Macrium Reflect Free Edition.
Backup Complete Computer - Create an Image Backup
Imaging with free Macrium

It seems like your computer was used by a business(?) and they used an Encrypted File System (EFS).
You shouldn't need "... personal certificates, stored passwords for websites or networks resources.", unless you have made them yourself.

Did they delete everything off of the PC before you bought it?

You only need the "Guest" account, if you want to allow other people to use your machine.

Of course they could just use your account, if it doesn't have a password (obviously that's assuming you don't tell anyone what your password is).
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