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Windows 7: Major StartUp and Performance Problems After Blackout ???

19 Nov 2017   #11
Megahertz07

Windows 7 HP 64
 
 

You should also do a check disk on the other partitions.
chkdsk d: /f
chkdsk e: /f


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19 Nov 2017   #12
BuckSkin

Windows 7 Pro x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Megahertz07 View Post
You should also do a check disk on the other partitions.
chkdsk d: /f
chkdsk e: /f

Before I do, I am going to get it back up and running and see if I can rescue anything that isn't already backed up somewhere else; hopefully, I can do this via our network; elsewise, I will try to do it via my Sabrent SATA/USB adapter thingie.
There shouldn't be much that isn't already safe and secure somewhere else; the vast picture collection automatically backs up via Synchredible once each day.

I will report back after this next step.

Thanks.
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19 Nov 2017   #13
BuckSkin

Windows 7 Pro x64
 
 

Okay........, Before I closed out of the command line window, I executed scannow three times, the I closed the command line window and clicked restart; while not nearly so quick as it has been in the past, the machine came to life and settled into the Windows desktop and was ready for use in short order.

I let it chew on that a bit while I went to another machine to see what all I could access via the network; I was able to get into every nook and cranny and do as I pleased; that is a big improvement on last night, when I couldn't access any part of it on the network.

I went back over to the subject machine, loaded Photoshop Elements, and did a bit of photo manipulation; everything was quick and responsive.
I left Elements open and opened FastStone, the leaving it open as well, I opened a real machinery intensive program, DxO Optics Pro 9 Elite; I selected a batch of 75 jpegs and performed several enhancements, then pasted all of my work to the whole batch and saved them to the drive; it went through them like a hog goes through shelled corn.

So far, so good.

Before I do any more troubleshooting and investigating, I have a few folders that need to be backed up.

I am not going to say it is fixed just yet, as it may crash in a few minutes; but, so far, so good.


On EDIT UPDATE: One hour later, I selected a different folder of photos to be viewed, something that should happen in the blink of an eye, and everything froze up again; the photo viewing program disappeared from the screen and the little blue circle has been going round and round for the last ten minutes.
I can move the circle around with the mouse, but I cannot get anything to respond.
I am going to just let it cook and see what happens before I resort to another forced shutdown.
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20 Nov 2017   #14
Megahertz07

Windows 7 HP 64
 
 

If the same disk has more than one partition you should do a check disk in each one. If you play around without doing it you may loose some data.
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20 Nov 2017   #15
BuckSkin

Windows 7 Pro x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Megahertz07 View Post
You should also do a check disk on the other partitions.
chkdsk d: /f
chkdsk e: /f
On these two drives = "Windows has checked the file system and found no problems."

Also = "0 KB in bad sectors"


I did the chkdsk _: /f as per your previous instructions ( _ being the drive); I am assuming the /f means fix, right ?

What happens when the command is chkdsk _: /r /f /v ?

Thanks.
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21 Nov 2017   #16
Megahertz07

Windows 7 HP 64
 
 

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23 Nov 2017   #17
BuckSkin

Windows 7 Pro x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Megahertz07 View Post
If the same disk has more than one partition you should do a check disk in each one. If you play around without doing it you may loose some data.

Well..., I think I got it fixed, although not in the way I was going at it; but, then, I am not going to declare a celebration just yet, as I have been built up many times before only to have the rug jerked from under me.

Each time I ran chkdsk followed by scannow three times, things got noticeably better; it booted quicker, programs responded quicker, all would seem to be back almost to normal; then, just when it would appear that everything was going to be okay, the simplest command would result in everything freezing up, with that familiar little blue circle going round and round.
Once, just to see if it would ever come out of this coma, I let that little blue circle go for most of the night; hours later,nothing had changed and I had to force a shutdown again. (I don't know any other way to regain control when everything freezes up; if there is a better way, I am all ears)

Then, I got to noticing whole sections of features were no longer available in many of my photo manipulating programs; all would appear fine and ready for action until I would click on a menu and nothing would be there.

I finally gave up on fixing this O/S and decided another cloning was in order.

I have an entire separate HDD that is cloned and ready to pop in; but, it is a 500-GB, whereas the one in the sick machine is a 2TB; plus, I had gotten in a space pinch and had stored about 400-GB of video on it.

So, I still had two options other than a clean install; I could simply clone my good 2TB HDD that is in an identical machine; or, hopefully, I could just clone the O/S partition and leave the rest intact.

My favorite back-up program AOMEI BackUpper FREE will only clone partitions in the paid-for version.

Macrium Reflect FREE will clone partitions only.

So, I fired up Macrium and set it to cloning my good O/S onto the destination HDD; when Macrium finished, I got a bad feeling when I looked in Disk Management; Macrium had erased the System Reserved partition on the destination disk and made it unallocated territory; the destination O/S partition was a good 10-GB bigger that the source, so that was not an issue; I had been overly cautious when setting Macrium up to make sure something like that didn't happen and yet it did.

EaseUS Partition Master FREE to the rescue; I have had and used EaseUS for a couple years; and, until today, I was unaware that it could clone a partition; so, I used EaseUS to clone/replace the System Reserved that Macrium had messed up.

So now, I stick the HDD back into it,s machine; me having successfully done a few clones with AOMEI that had always been plug-and-play,I had no reason to expect problems.

Alas, the machine booted quicker than I had ever seen it and then stuck between the Welcome screen and the desktop, little blue circle going round and round; plus, everything was huge, even bigger than when in Safe Mode.

I had to resort to a forced shutdown; then, I popped in my Repair DVD and gave that a spin with the same results.

So, I removed the HDD again and this time I left Macrium in the closet and used EaseUS to re-clone the O/S partition.

This operation took about four times as long as the same task took Macrium; the Macrium job never once said anything about restarting the machine; EaseUS came to a point where it restarted at least twice.

Finally, all finished, I put the HDD back in it's home and tried again.......; this time, it was a success; it booted quick and everything seems to be in order; plus, and this is the reason why I wanted to only clone the partition and not the entire disk, all four of the other original drives/partitions remained intact and untouched.

I may come back crying and whining with my belly in knots, but all seems to be fixed now.

I could have done this clone business when the trouble first started, but I wanted to see if I could fix the ailing O/S; I learned a lot by doing so and don't regret taking the long way around.

I want to express my appreciation to Megahertz07 and everyone else for their help and advice in this hour of crisis.

If you have read to this point, you deserve a break and a rest; thanks for reading.
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23 Nov 2017   #18
Megahertz07

Windows 7 HP 64
 
 

Glad you fix it. Please mark this thread as Solved.
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23 Nov 2017   #19
Megahertz07

Windows 7 HP 64
 
 

Hope not, but I think you have a disk problem.
Backup your data on another disk. Better be safe than sorry.
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23 Nov 2017   #20
BuckSkin

Windows 7 Pro x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Megahertz07 View Post
Hope not, but I think you have a disk problem.
Backup your data on another disk. Better be safe than sorry.
Anything is possible; the way the electricity violently slammed off and then the mysterious way that the machine started back up without any influence from me, it is a miracle any part of it still works.

It was connected to a surge-protecting power-strip of sorts; but, I have read in a number of places, and been told by the local computer geek, that after a single surge, a surge protector becomes no more than a glorified extension cord; and, he said that one may never know that they had had such a surge and the protection they were relying on was viable no more.
I am only repeating what I have been told and couldn't even make an educated guess as to the truth of the matter.

Thanks for the back-up advice; I have everything on at least two other HDDs, and quite a bit of it in more places than that.

If the HDD is damaged, do you figure it will start the freezing-up problem again ?
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