Administrator account isn't a 'real' administrator :(

[Angahran]

I hope this is the correct forum for this question.

I currently have Windows 7 32bit installed on one partition ( D: and I just installed Windows 7 (64bit) on another partition ( C:.

I log into Windows 7 64bit using Administrator BUT when I try to do things like move where the Administrators 'My Documents' folder is (I put user folders on a third partition) I get a message that I do not have permission and I should contact the administrator.

I AM the administrator. The only user account on the machine is Administrator. I have double checked that the account IS a member of the 'Administrators' group.

So, I am really confused.
How is the Administrator NOT an administrator ?

Any help/suggestions/ideas much appreciated.

Ang.

p.s. Does anyone know how to get the 'swirly windows logo' back as the boot graphic ?
I had to do a restore on the 32bit install and now I just get this green bar when it is loading.

Thanks

 

[garysgold]

Hello Angahran,

Welcome to Seven Forums.

The account that you create when installing is not a true administrator account. It is a standard user account with administrator privileges. There is a disabled true admin acct. but I don't recommend using it unless absolutely necessary.

Also 'My Documents' is not an actual folder, but a hard link used to point older programs to the correct folder to install whatever would have gone into the My doc folder, which is now called simply Documents. If you move that you'll create problems. Same for the other 'My ...' folders. They should be hidden unless you have 'Hide protected operating sys files' unchecked in folder options.

Hope this helps.

Gary

 

[Angahran]

Thanks for the reply.

I'll try this again.

I am logged in as Administrator.
Administrator is a member of the Administrators group.

I can go to Administrator's Documents folder, rightclick and select properties, Location and move the folder. However, this leaves an empty folder which when I try to remove, tells me I need admin privileges to delete.

Since I am logged in as Administrator I don't know why I am getting this message.

 

[YupYup]

Does anyone know how to get the 'swirly windows logo' back as the boot graphic ?
I had to do a restore on the 32bit install and now I just get this green bar when it is loading.

Thanks

Run command prompt as administrator type in bcdedit /set {current} locale en-US press enter, if english is not your language change en-US to match your locale.

 

[Ex_Brit]

You can't move the actual Administrator's folders. You are going to screw up the installation by trying.

 

[Jacee]

I currently have Windows 7 32bit installed on one partition ( D: and I just installed Windows 7 (64bit) on another partition ( C:.

This is a bit confusing ... why are you trying to use 32 and 64bit OS's on one computer?

 

[Angahran]

You can't move the actual Administrator's folders. You are going to screw up the installation by trying.

I'm using the operating system to move them, Location tab and move to different partition, (and I've always done much the same thing in XP.)
I tend to 'explode' my OS installs on a fairly regular basis and I've found that keeping as little as possible on the OS partition, and keeping regular Ghosts makes recovery easier.

This is a bit confusing ... why are you trying to use 32 and 64bit OS's on one computer?

Because I'm testing things out, never had a 64bit OS before so comparing it to the 32bit version (spent 20 years trying to break software as a career, it's a hard habit to break).

 

[Ex_Brit]

Well I'm not 64-bit but assume it's no different in this regard. Since Vista things are tighter security-wise and the hidden Admin account is all-powerful and can't be messed with and is not the same as your account with Admin privileges.

I appreciate what you are trying to do and hopefully someone will have some opinions on this.

 

[swarfega]

Follow this http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/507-built-administrator-account-enable-disable.html?filter[2]=User%20Accounts to get the full administrator account.

 

[Lucifer]

Wow, this dude asked the exact same question that I wanted to ask for ages, but never did. Glad it is finally answered

 

[Ex_Brit]

I already have mine enabled, but can he move out the Admin folders in the manner he proposes?

 

[mbcopeland]

I am just not that Admin to you...

I am thinking on the same lines as the original poster. My "normal login account" is an Administrator "Standard User", but I want it to be an Administrator "Administrator", is that possible?

I enabled the Hidden Administrator account and logged in, but it will not even allow me to change my "normal login account" to Administrator "Administrator". So again, is that even possible?

 

[PraetorianGuard]

Any way it is possible to elevate the "normal" account to that of the administrator one?. I would hate to having to migrate to the Admin account all of a sudden :/

 

[Ex_Brit]

There are only 2 types of user apart from the actual Admin account which is the only one with "supreme" status - other accounts can't be created with its level of access. The other user accounts are "Standard" and "Administrator" type users, the latter however, does not have the same level as the actual Administrator account.

If your machine is controlled by someone else then I doubt you'll be able to change your status anyway.

Even signed in as an Administrator-level user one often needs Admin status to do certain things, that's why there's that option in a right-click "Run as Administrator". That's the way around it.

 

[PraetorianGuard]

The machine is owned and controlled by me . I just want to be in full power and control and not just have psudo control and psudo power :/

 

[Ex_Brit]

Well, log in as an Administrator type user and you will have most of the power and anything needing higher authority is where that right-click option comes in.

 

[PraetorianGuard]

My present user is an admin user, I would just prefer having full power off the bat without the stupid right click feature >_<. It annoyed me enough on Windows 2003 server.

 

[Jordus]

The way to make your user account similar to that of the built-in admin account is to disable or change some of the settings for UAC.

By default, the builtin account is set to "automatically elevate" for uac stuff, members of the admin group are set to "prompt for consent" and standard users are set to "prompt for credentials"

There are specific GPO settings just for how to treat the built in account, how to treat members of the admin group, and standard users.

 

[Ex_Brit]

You then can possibly leave your machine open to all the issues that people used to accuse XP of....backdoor holes, so be careful.

 

[PraetorianGuard]

There are specific GPO settings just for how to treat the built in account, how to treat members of the admin group, and standard users.

And where could one find them?. Atm i have just disabled UAC cause the notifications it gave me did annoy me in the long run