Eset NOD 32v4 or Microsoft Security Essentials

[oidicle]

thought if it will be proven that MSE will have better Detection rates than kapersky (which has the best detection rate) I'll switch to it LOL!.

According to AV Comparatives report, Avira has the best Detection Rates not Kaspersky( Kaspersky doesn't even take 2nd or 3rd place), on the other hand Avira fails because it also has one of the highest false positives, including avast... It's useless to use a AV that has the best detection rates but at the same time may be deleting your clean files because of false positives...

That's why Eset is one of the best choices in that respect, it has top detection rates(not the best, but about 98.xx% and it has one of the lowest false positives....

AV-Comparatives - Independent Tests of Anti-Virus Software - Main-Tests

Compare the results, read both reports...

 

[Mercurial]

oh dear last time I checked kapersky was number 1 detection rates....

well when MSE beats highest detection rates then? XD

also I hope they don't prompt user to do something each time they detect a virus... * like eset *

ps: they were using eset 3.0 in the test lol.... they shoulda used 4

 

[zigzag3143]

Eset & mse

I think that there is currently no definitive answer to the question. MSE is, at least partially, an unknown quantity. It is already getting good reviews from authoritative sources - such as:

AV-Test GmbH tested Microsoft Security Essentials, the free software Microsoft launched yesterday in beta, on Windows XP, Vista and Windows 7, putting it up against nearly 3,200 common viruses, bot Trojans and worms, said Andreas Marx, one of the firm's two managers. The malware was culled from the most recent WildList, a list of threats actually actively attacking computers.
"All files were properly detected and treated by the product," said Marx in an e-mail. "That's good, as several other [antivirus] scanners are still not able to detect and kill all of these critters yet."
AV-Test also measured Security Essentials against a set of in-house false positives to see whether the software mistakenly fingers legitimate files, a nightmare for users, who can be left with a crippled computer, and a disaster to the reputation of a security company.
"None of the clean files were flagged as being malicious," noted Marx. "Very good."

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(quoted from Computerworld)

Also in its favour is that it runs flawlessly in 7 (and I'd say has a good simple GUI too)

Eset is well established and gets reasonable results from authoritative sources. Not the very best but pretty good. An example is the above reported AV-Test GmbH. This chart should give everyone with their favorites hours of fun - 34 AVs Compared.

Eset has IMO an excellent GUI and runs "quietly".

So both are good solid alternatives.

I know many will scream blue murder but I run them both! Neither complains about the other, neither or even both use much in the way of resources. Still I can't be sure this is a good idea.

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What I have learnt re AV and Win7 is this:

• Not all AV solutions work in 7
• Some AV solutions work flawlessly (Eset, MSE, Avast and, I think Avira)(there are probably others)
• Most AV solutions are pretty good at what they do and none are perfect.
• A few AV solutions are below par and there are better options.
• We should all worry LESS about this "problem"

I run them both as well and they both play nice together.
Ken

 

[Dixon Butz]

A lot of Eset fanboyz. Doen't do too well on new zero day virus. Always at the bottom

Most Effective Antivirus Tools Against New Malware Binaries

 

[KazeNoKoe23]

I run NOD32 but only because it was 70% off its regular price on NCIX.

Once my subscription runs out, however, I'll give MSE a good look.

 

[ciphernemo]

A lot of Eset fanboyz. Doen't do too well on new zero day virus. Always at the bottom

Most Effective Antivirus Tools Against New Malware Binaries

Why the heck is that small group of people testing with "NOD32v2" (version 2) when 4 is current? And this was a recent test? Compared to other AV products that are updated versions? That's not fair at all.

Sounds like bad testing with poorly tracked test parameters. For example, what O/S are they running, what exact conditions are in this 24-window? And for that site, when I click on the log links, they show nothing.

Also, not all AV developers release updates on the same schedule during the day. ESET was originally developed outside of the US (Slovakia), though they have headquarters here now, among other countries. In other words, that test is quite sketchy.

And for the NOD32 fan boys, the official NOD32 song (though a bit cheesy, lol).

And a much better ESET song, lol!

 

[Mercurial]

lololol nice song.... hurray ESET FAN CLUB!!!

here eset trailer and ads lol
http://www.sevenforums.com/chillout-room/14612-eset-nod32-smart-security-advertisement.html

 

[oidicle]

Yeah, rock on ESET

 

[Snufffed]

I'm all for ESET SS, really like the FW an method to set. #1 in my book. Also FREE 100%. a friend of mine in the PENTAGON gives me license ... They switched from Symantec Corp. some yrs ago. I'm testing MSE (by it self), how else can you give it a FAIR evaluation. PS: 99.9% of the articles written by - are PAID AD's.
I STILL THINK IT IS BAD TO RUN 2 OR MORE FIREWALLS OR ANTIVIRUS PROGRAMS AT THE SAME TIME.

 

[ciphernemo]

I STILL THINK IT IS BAD TO RUN 2 OR MORE FIREWALLS OR ANTIVIRUS PROGRAMS AT THE SAME TIME.

I agree, though I don't know if it would actually cause problems. I'm sure some would, and it is possible that some wouldn't. But still, if someone is running multiple Firewalls or AV products, their network traffic and/or data is running through multiple passes, yielding more overhead and system resource drain than running just one.

 

[zigzag3143]

eset vs mse

I agree, though I don't know if it would actually cause problems. I'm sure some would, and it is possible that some wouldn't. But still, if someone is running multiple Firewalls or AV products, their network traffic and/or data is running through multiple passes, yielding more overhead and system resource drain than running just one.

i think you are both right. Its not a good idea to run both, and they use more resources. and can conflict. Im running both and they play well together. I like not being dependant on a single point of failure. MSE thinks its own virus def's are virii, eset knows they aren't. eset didn't pick up a 0day trojan, mse did. it wan't a live trojan but it just gives me options. the thing i dont like abt mse is that when it tells me there is a problem you cant minimize it or work around it. you cant even force quit it (it re-launches).
\end rant

I just feel more secure with both.

Ken

 

[LENW]

I don't klnow about ESET with 64 bit WINDOWS 7.....
I wrote to ESET to ask about compat and they responded that they are still testing and will not formaally affirm for W7 until after W7 is released

 

[ciphernemo]

I don't klnow about ESET with 64 bit WINDOWS 7.....
I wrote to ESET to ask about compat and they responded that they are still testing and will not formaally affirm for W7 until after W7 is released

I don't need to talk to marketing/sales from ESET to know that it works well in Windows 7 RC-1. No company should officially support their product working on any RC-1 any ways (after all, it's not release and possibly ripe with security holes).

But mine works flawlessly on Windows 7 RC-1 because there is not much difference between running it on Vista 64-bit and Win7 64-bit (the way apps run on each is very similar).

 

[LePoilu]

I think that there is currently no definitive answer to the question. MSE is, at least partially, an unknown quantity.

MSE is well know. It's MS Live OneCare without some features (firewall, saving files, etc)

I don't klnow about ESET with 64 bit WINDOWS 7.....
I wrote to ESET to ask about compat and they responded that they are still testing and will not formaally affirm for W7 until after W7 is released

Nod32 V4 work really well on Seven x64

 

[TheIgster]

Maybe those that are using ESET can help me out. I was trying to create a Rescue Disc in ESET and noticed the following on their web site:

Due to limitations in Windows AIK, an ESET SysRescue cannot be created with the 64-bit version of ESET Smart Security or ESET NOD32 Antivirus.

I'm running Windows 7 64-bit as well as the 64-bit version of ESET NOD32. So if above is the case, what are 64-bit people supposed to do and why include this feature in your 64-bit software that can't work anyway?

 

[Dinesh]

Did you get any error while creating or using the rescue CD?
If everything's working fine, then just ignore that warning.

 

[TheIgster]

Did you get any error while creating or using the rescue CD?
If everything's working fine, then just ignore that warning.

Couldn't create it. Said it needed to dowload AIK which is 1.3 GB apparently, that I found out after doing some more research and then I read on their site that it does not work with 64-bit ESET.

So not only does it not work "according to them", they allow you to try and create the rescue CD (well, at least choose the option) and then they have a link to download this 1.3 GB file in the program, although it apparenty doesn't work with 64-bit. Not sure how much faith I have in them now with what appears to be a pretty big blunder.

I don't normally just ignore warnings, especially when they are coming directly from the horse's mouth. Although they seem to be contradicting themselves here.

 

[Dinesh]

Oh ok, you are right then. If the feature isn't available, it should be removed.:sarc:

 

[TheIgster]

Right.

So if someone is running the 64-bit version, what have you done? Just simply not create the rescue CD? If that is the case, what if you can't get back into Windows? What does ESET say to do then?

Just curious if anyone has found out.

 

[Dinesh]

I will Remove Virus without Booting into Windows Vista - Vista Forums
Also, in case of ESET product, i can directly pull its main AV engine(.exe) from Program files while i m in recovery environment and run a full scan.... However, i have not personally tried this method with ESET NOD32 AV. You can still try it.