Solved Why is Windows so bad at networking

[Captain Slog]

I have a small three PC home network. Two PC are running Windows 7 and one running Vista.

All three machines have the same homegroup settings. The ability to view machines on the network is very patchy. One machine can see the others, while another machine can only see one other machine. Sometimes machines cannot see any others on the network.

All machines are connected wirelessly with strong signals through a BT 2700HGV Business Hub router. All of the machines can access the internet without problems.

All machines run Eset Smart Security with the Windows firewall is turned off.


Any advice to create a stable network would be appreciated.



The Captain

 

[Captain Zero]

Have you tried Homegroups over IPv6? Or are you using an old-school IPv4 network?

Btw, welcome to the forums. Asking a question if the form of a troll generally isn't helpful. But since it's your first post, I won't publicly flog you and force you into therapy.

 

[dmex]

Any advice to create a stable network would be appreciated.

Hi Captain,

My advice, Stop using the RC (7100) and use the RTM (7600) where all these bugs are fixed and all features are complete and stable

Steven

 

[Captain Slog]

Hi Captain,

My advice, Stop using the RC (7100) and use the RTM (7600) where all these bugs are fixed and all features are complete and stable

Steven

Does the RTM allow an 'upgrade' to let me keep all of my programs and settings?

 

[dselmeyer]

Hi Captain,

My advice, Stop using the RC (7100) and use the RTM (7600) where all these bugs are fixed and all features are complete and stable

Steven

you are kidding about the stable part, right? LOL

Seriously though, a brand new PC, supports Windows 7 per the manufacturer, yet the networking is HORRIBLE, can't keep a connection, etc. I am having to revert back to Vista Business 64 bit b/c W7 in my opinion is a piece of garbage right now.

Hopefully by the time October rolls around, they will have a service pack out to fix the crazy things.

 

[Captain Zero]

you are kidding about the stable part, right? LOL

Seriously though, a brand new PC, supports Windows 7 per the manufacturer, yet the networking is HORRIBLE, can't keep a connection, etc. I am having to revert back to Vista Business 64 bit b/c W7 in my opinion is a piece of garbage right now.

Hopefully by the time October rolls around, they will have a service pack out to fix the crazy things.

Well, let's see what we have here...

Remember that public flogging I mentioned earlier? Especially that part about asking for help in the form of a troll?

Strike One.

Secondly, you find yourself among a group of highly knowledgeable people who have been using Windows 7 for over a year, in many cases. Trust me, if there's an issue, it can resolved here. Even your silly and "HORRIBLE" networking issue.

Strike Two.

You're running what can be describe, at best, a very early RC. That is, software that has greatly matured since that inception. Does it occur to you that, perhaps, you're running into issues that have already long been resolved? These "crazy things" you want to point out only exist in your environment. The rest of us have installed countless builds since 7100 and matured along with the OS.

Strike Three.

 

[TGSoldier]

Upgrade to 7600...

 

[zigzag3143]

Capt S

Hi and welcome. I realize you are new here and jusst wanted to give you a heads up. You would get alot more feedback if you hadn't started with why is win 7 so bad at networking. I have experience in both ends of the spectrum. A small homegroup (5 computers) and a huge workgroup/domain. If you really look at win 7 network problems here you will see that most are from ppl who are relatively new to the OS.

Is win 7 networking perfect, nope but its not even released yet.

Ken

 

[septprince]

All three machines have the same homegroup settings. The ability to view machines on the network is very patchy. One machine can see the others, while another machine can only see one other machine.

I dont think vista supports homegroup,:sarc: Only windows 7 supports Homegroup.
As the three machines can access Internet then your network connection is ok.
The problem is that one of our machine is running vista it is obvious that the vista machine machine will not see other two win7 machine and the other two machine also cannot see vista machine.


Sourav.

 

[TGSoldier]

You need to put the machines in WORKGROUP.. not HOMEGROUP.. it's a difference.

Like my colleague above mentioned, HOMEGROUP only works on Windows 7.

 

[septprince]

You need to put the machines in WORKGROUP.. not HOMEGROUP.. it's a difference.

Like my colleague above mentioned, HOMEGROUP only works on Windows 7.

Absolutely right....

 

[whest]

network in w7

So you have 3 pc's - one running vista, and the other 2 running W7- well thats your problem - a W7 PC's will only connect with W7 pc's using Homegroup - you could try this - disable the homegroup in both the W7 pc's then go into advanced setting in Network and Sharing Centre, and enable the following :
Turn on network discovery
Turn on File and Printer Sharing - up to you - it also needs to be enabled in Devices and printers - right click printer and select printer properties -sharing-check share this printer
Public Folder sharing up to you on or off
Media streaming off
File Sharing connections - turn on 128 bit
Turn on Password protected sharing
Homegroup Connections - Use user accounts and passwords to connect to other computers
See if that works, if it doesnt, can you install W7 on the vista computer? Because then it will work 100% using Homegroup on all 3 pc's .
Also do the same with vista and just use the same options in Network and Sharing.

 

[smarteyeball]

Is win 7 networking perfect, nope but its not even released yet.

Ken

Well.... not to the general public anyway

While I can understand the OP's frustration, it does sound like more of a user settings / router problem than a Windows problem.

 

[TGSoldier]

First thing they do is blame the OS and it's Manufacturer right?

"I don't know how to change my network settings! MS you suck! Win 7 you suck! I want back xp! /cry"

boo hoo :shock:

 

[iseeuu]

Upgrade to 7600...

I just have a question, and maybe someone can clear this up for me. I understood that in order to get the RTM ie: 7600 you had to pay like $300 - $400 annual to join Technet? Since I have no plans to join, is there another MS source for me to get and upgrade to 7600?

Robert

 

[Zidane24]

I just have a question, and maybe someone can clear this up for me. I understood that in order to get the RTM ie: 7600 you had to pay like $300 - $400 annual to join Technet? Since I have no plans to join, is there another MS source for me to get and upgrade to 7600?

Robert

Nope...you will have to buy Windows 7 in stores October 22 or get it theough MSDN/Technet

 

[Zidane24]

Seeing as the OP hasn't posted back...this is likely a troll thread

 

[iseeuu]

Nope...you will have to buy Windows 7 in stores October 22 or get it theough MSDN/Technet

Thank you Zidane. 'nuff said.

 

[chev65]

Such an i'll informed question does not deserve and informed answer. The networking in Win7 works perfectly as is, in fact it's one of the best things about it. The problem sits behind the keyboard in this case.

And by the way, you do not need to use homegroups to share files in Win7. The public sharing folders work perfectly fine. Homegroups is for sharing entire libraries ane requires you to share libraries for it to work properly.