Have you used windows backup before? Is it practical?

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I use Macrium Reflect to image my hard disk, out of interest I ask if Windows backup is useful or practical?
 

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I used it and it was fine. Saved me a few times when I first got the new Win7. But I had bought Acronis for other reasons and it took over Win7 and even when I uninstalled Acronis Win7's backup was trashed for good. This is a known issue with Acronis and Win7.
So I'm looking into another backup. Right now I clone the drive to a media bay drive in my Dell Latitude.
 

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Using Windows backup can you create an image of partition and also create a "rescue" cd or flash drive that will restore the image to the original partition?
 

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HP Compaq dc7600 Convertible Minitower PC
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original that came with the PC
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4GB
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Nvidia GE Force 9600 GT
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Samsung SyncMaster 713N
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Maxtor 6V160E0 ATA
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mini tower
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Windows imaging is usable but as mentioned above can be a bit fragile. It also insists on backing up every partition it considers to be "system" each time, so if you have OEM partitions or a pagefile or SQL Server database on another partition it will include that one also. Macrium is much more stable and flexible.
 

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Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit Service Pack 1
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Intel(R) Core(TM) i3 CPU M 330 @ 2.13GHz
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Hewlett-Packard 1425
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8 GB DDR3
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Intel(R) HD Graphics
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Realtek High Definition Audio
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Builtin
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I used it on my father's laptop before. Be prepared to use many DVDs even if the backup you have is fairly small. My dad's backup used 2 DVDs and my own, the all 10 pieces of DVD.
 

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AVG Free AV 2015
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It's not a good idea to back up to DVD if you have any alternative. DVDs are not very reliable and it only takes one of the set to have problems for the entire set to be useless. Far better to buy a USB attached hard drive for your backups.
 

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Intel(R) HD Graphics
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Realtek High Definition Audio
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Builtin
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1366 x 768 x 32 bits (4294967296 colors) @ 60 Hz
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250 GB SATA Hard Disk Drive 7200 rpm
2TB Seagate GoFlex USB 2 Drive
1TB Iomega Prestige USB 2 Drive
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2TB WD MyBook Live NAS.
Mouse
Logitech Anywhere MX
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152 Mbs download 10 Mbs upload
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Norton 360
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Chrome
Windows imaging works perfectly and is very flexible, it lets you choose only what you want to backup.
 

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It's not a good idea to back up to DVD if you have any alternative. DVDs are not very reliable and it only takes one of the set to have problems for the entire set to be useless. Far better to buy a USB attached hard drive for your backups.

Thank you kado897 for telling me this. I was thinking that DVDs are rather slow and troublesome especially waiting the discs to be finalised. A HDD will be faster.
 

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Acer Aspire 4736G
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Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit
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Intel Core 2 Duo T6600 2.2 GHz 800MHz
Motherboard
Intel PM65
Memory
4GB
Graphics Card(s)
Nvidia Geforce G105M
Hard Drives
Toshiba MK5055GSX 99FKS993S LBAS 976773167
Antivirus
AVG Free AV 2015
Browser
IE & Chrome
I had a lot of problems with Windows imaging. Free Macrium is a much better choice.
 

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MSE
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I used Macrium just tonight to restore an image of me w7 drive in a 2-drive system, I'm on it now. the restore was lengthy though, it took 4 minutes, 18 seconds. :D working like a charm.
 

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Home Built Desktop By DataTech
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Intel i5-2550K, Differing ~4.4-4.8GHz No built in GPU
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ASUS P8Z68-V PRO/GEN3
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16GB G.Skill Sniper 1866MHz @ 2133MHz 2x8GB
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ASUS GTX650TIB-DC2OC-2GD5, (650TI Boost)
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If you image then everything is backed up. I guess you are talking about the file and folder backup. That is intended for user data. I guess that NTUSER.DAT is considered system.
 

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Hewlett-Packard 1425
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8 GB DDR3
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Intel(R) HD Graphics
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Realtek High Definition Audio
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Builtin
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1366 x 768 x 32 bits (4294967296 colors) @ 60 Hz
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250 GB SATA Hard Disk Drive 7200 rpm
2TB Seagate GoFlex USB 2 Drive
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2TB WD MyBook Live NAS.
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Logitech Anywhere MX
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Norton 360
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Chrome
If you image then everything is backed up. I guess you are talking about the file and folder backup. That is intended for user data. I guess that NTUSER.DAT is considered system.


Yes. File and folder backup. I personally consider any backup tool that does not clone all files, "system" or user data, together with all file attributes, to be broken. It did backup plenty of other "system" files, including what looks like old versions of NTUSER.DAT, but just not that file itself.
 

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ATI Radeon 5470HD
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MSE
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Firefox
The only time I used an image was several years ago when I was still using Norton Ghost. It worked just fine.

I'm using the Pro version of Macrium Reflect now. I haven't had to do a restore although I did do a test restore form one HDD to another to make sure the recovery disk I burned would work and I could figure out how to use it (it did and I did). I make only full images of my C:/ drive on onto 160GB HDDs.

I got the Pro version of Macrium Reflect so I could make incremental backups (faster than full images) on my notebook before I built my desktop but, once I get ambitious and restore the 500GB HDD on my notebook back to factory condition, shrink the C:/ partition down to about 100GB or so, and create a data partition, I won't need to make any more incremental backups. Since I'm using 500GB HDDs to put the backups on, a full image of the hidden partitions and the C:/ and D:/ partitions won't take very long and I'll have plenty of room on the backup HDDs to keep several of them. The only data that will be permanently kept on the data partition will be duplicates of what's on my desktop machine (music and books mostly), which is already backed up to the nth degree, so won't need to be backed up on the notebook. Anything I do put on the machine while on a trip (photos, mostly) can be temporarily backed up to an HDD I take with me, a 32GB SD card I keep in my purse, and to my Amazon Cloud Drive until I get home and can transfer the data to my desktop.
 

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ASUS P9X79 WS
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Kingston HyperX Genesis 32GB Kit (8x4GB Modules) 1600MHz DDR
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MSI R7850 Twin Frozr 2GD5/OC Radeon HD 7850 2GB 256-bit GDDR
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Asus Xonar Essence STX
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3x Asus VG248QE 24", Vizio 32" TV
Screen Resolution
1920 x 1080, ?
Hard Drives
Samsung 128GB 840 Pro SSD (1),
Samsung 4TB 850 EVO SSDs (4)
Samsung 4TB 850 EVO SSDs (16) external backup drives used in 2.5" hot swap bays in the computer.
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Corsair HX750w
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Antec Two Hundred v2 (modified)
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Cooler Master GeminII S524 120mm (fan replaced with a 140mm)
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Logitech G510s
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AVAST!, MBAM, SAS, Spybot S&D (all but MBAM free) Glary Util
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I used Macrium just tonight to restore an image of me w7 drive in a 2-drive system, I'm on it now. the restore was lengthy though, it took 4 minutes, 18 seconds. :D working like a charm.

Dang! You could die of old age waiting that long for a restore. ;)
 

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Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Custom Build
OS
Win 7 Ultimate 64 bit
CPU
Intel i7-3930K
Motherboard
ASUS P9X79 WS
Memory
Kingston HyperX Genesis 32GB Kit (8x4GB Modules) 1600MHz DDR
Graphics Card(s)
MSI R7850 Twin Frozr 2GD5/OC Radeon HD 7850 2GB 256-bit GDDR
Sound Card
Asus Xonar Essence STX
Monitor(s) Displays
3x Asus VG248QE 24", Vizio 32" TV
Screen Resolution
1920 x 1080, ?
Hard Drives
Samsung 128GB 840 Pro SSD (1),
Samsung 4TB 850 EVO SSDs (4)
Samsung 4TB 850 EVO SSDs (16) external backup drives used in 2.5" hot swap bays in the computer.
PSU
Corsair HX750w
Case
Antec Two Hundred v2 (modified)
Cooling
Cooler Master GeminII S524 120mm (fan replaced with a 140mm)
Keyboard
Logitech G510s
Mouse
Logitech M525 (two in use)
Internet Speed
=< 32Mbps down, 8Mbps up
Antivirus
AVAST!, MBAM, SAS, Spybot S&D (all but MBAM free) Glary Util
Browser
IE11
Other Info
LSI 9211-8i HBA card (8 SATA III ports), 2.5" & 3.5" Hot Swap Bays, HooToo HT-CR001 PCI-E to USB 3.0 Internal Hub + 6 Slot Card Reader, and LG Model CH12LS28 BD-ROM Optical Drive. Also, ScanSnap S1500 ADF duplexing scanner, Canon 9000F flat bed scanner, Corsair SP2500 2.1 speakers, Samsung CLP 415nw laser color printer, Cyberpower PP2200SW UPS
I currently use Macrium Reflect and have been for the past year or so, it's excellent!! I was interested if the local backup feature was any better. Oh well, good to know I'm using a very good backup/restore software.

Thank you all
 

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Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
HP Compaq dc7600 Convertible Minitower PC
OS
Windows 7 Professional 32 bit
CPU
Pentium D 3.4 GHYz
Motherboard
original that came with the PC
Memory
4GB
Graphics Card(s)
Nvidia GE Force 9600 GT
Sound Card
intergrated on the motherboard
Monitor(s) Displays
Samsung SyncMaster 713N
Screen Resolution
1280X1024
Hard Drives
Maxtor 6V160E0 ATA
Case
mini tower
Keyboard
standard PS/2
Mouse
PS/2 compatible
Internet Speed
2 M/s ADSL
I currently use Macrium Reflect and have been for the past year or so, it's excellent!! I was interested if the local backup feature was any better. Oh well, good to know I'm using a very good backup/restore software.

Thank you all

Like I always say sometimes, if it ain't broke, don't fix it.
 

My Computer My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Custom Build
OS
Win 7 Ultimate 64 bit
CPU
Intel i7-3930K
Motherboard
ASUS P9X79 WS
Memory
Kingston HyperX Genesis 32GB Kit (8x4GB Modules) 1600MHz DDR
Graphics Card(s)
MSI R7850 Twin Frozr 2GD5/OC Radeon HD 7850 2GB 256-bit GDDR
Sound Card
Asus Xonar Essence STX
Monitor(s) Displays
3x Asus VG248QE 24", Vizio 32" TV
Screen Resolution
1920 x 1080, ?
Hard Drives
Samsung 128GB 840 Pro SSD (1),
Samsung 4TB 850 EVO SSDs (4)
Samsung 4TB 850 EVO SSDs (16) external backup drives used in 2.5" hot swap bays in the computer.
PSU
Corsair HX750w
Case
Antec Two Hundred v2 (modified)
Cooling
Cooler Master GeminII S524 120mm (fan replaced with a 140mm)
Keyboard
Logitech G510s
Mouse
Logitech M525 (two in use)
Internet Speed
=< 32Mbps down, 8Mbps up
Antivirus
AVAST!, MBAM, SAS, Spybot S&D (all but MBAM free) Glary Util
Browser
IE11
Other Info
LSI 9211-8i HBA card (8 SATA III ports), 2.5" & 3.5" Hot Swap Bays, HooToo HT-CR001 PCI-E to USB 3.0 Internal Hub + 6 Slot Card Reader, and LG Model CH12LS28 BD-ROM Optical Drive. Also, ScanSnap S1500 ADF duplexing scanner, Canon 9000F flat bed scanner, Corsair SP2500 2.1 speakers, Samsung CLP 415nw laser color printer, Cyberpower PP2200SW UPS
I used Macrium just tonight to restore an image of me w7 drive in a 2-drive system, I'm on it now. the restore was lengthy though, it took 4 minutes, 18 seconds. :D working like a charm.

Dang! You could die of old age waiting that long for a restore. ;)
At my age yeah it's possible.:shock:

I currently use Macrium Reflect and have been for the past year or so, it's excellent!! I was interested if the local backup feature was any better. Oh well, good to know I'm using a very good backup/restore software.

Thank you all
Keep on keepin' on mate!
 

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Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Home Built Desktop By DataTech
OS
Windows 7 Ultimate X64 SP1
CPU
Intel i5-2550K, Differing ~4.4-4.8GHz No built in GPU
Motherboard
ASUS P8Z68-V PRO/GEN3
Memory
16GB G.Skill Sniper 1866MHz @ 2133MHz 2x8GB
Graphics Card(s)
ASUS GTX650TIB-DC2OC-2GD5, (650TI Boost)
Sound Card
Onboard Realtek 5-1
Monitor(s) Displays
Samsung P2570HD
Screen Resolution
1920x1080
Hard Drives
Samsung 840 Pro 256GB SSD for OS, 500GB Seagate Constellation (Enterprise drive) for Data
PSU
Corsair HX650W
Case
Inwin Dragon Rider
Cooling
Hyper 212 EVO w/two Noctua fans, push-pull, @1300 RPM
Keyboard
E-Z Eyes, bright yellow keys with large characters
Mouse
steelseries SENSEI Laser Pro Gaming
Internet Speed
48-51Mbs Mbs down, 11 Mbs up Xfinity Cable
Antivirus
Norton Internet Security 2013
Browser
IE 10, Opera, Pale Moon if needed
Other Info
4 case fans, LG BluRay-RE, ASUS DVD-RW, Mr. Fusion power supply, 1.21 gigawatts.
Macrium Reflect is my choice also. I have done several restores with it. No problems at all.
 

My Computer My Computer

Computer type
Laptop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Hewlett-Packard/G62-107SA Notebook
OS
Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit Service Pack 1
CPU
Intel(R) Core(TM) i3 CPU M 330 @ 2.13GHz
Motherboard
Hewlett-Packard 1425
Memory
8 GB DDR3
Graphics Card(s)
Intel(R) HD Graphics
Sound Card
Realtek High Definition Audio
Monitor(s) Displays
Builtin
Screen Resolution
1366 x 768 x 32 bits (4294967296 colors) @ 60 Hz
Hard Drives
250 GB SATA Hard Disk Drive 7200 rpm
2TB Seagate GoFlex USB 2 Drive
1TB Iomega Prestige USB 2 Drive
1.5TB Iomega Prestige USB 2 Drive (Samsung)
2TB WD MyBook Live NAS.
Mouse
Logitech Anywhere MX
Internet Speed
152 Mbs download 10 Mbs upload
Antivirus
Norton 360
Browser
Chrome
I usually image my C drive and not the system reserved D partition. Is it a good idea to image ( and later restore when needed) the D partition?
 

My Computer My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
HP Compaq dc7600 Convertible Minitower PC
OS
Windows 7 Professional 32 bit
CPU
Pentium D 3.4 GHYz
Motherboard
original that came with the PC
Memory
4GB
Graphics Card(s)
Nvidia GE Force 9600 GT
Sound Card
intergrated on the motherboard
Monitor(s) Displays
Samsung SyncMaster 713N
Screen Resolution
1280X1024
Hard Drives
Maxtor 6V160E0 ATA
Case
mini tower
Keyboard
standard PS/2
Mouse
PS/2 compatible
Internet Speed
2 M/s ADSL
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