Solved Is it true about H & Z series chipsets?

[boogieboy]

Is it true that a single Nvidia or AMD GPU performs better on a Z series motherboard and performs less on H or B series motherboards regardless of OCing or anything just on stock im asking?

Actually i recently bought some new PC stuff like i5 4670k, CPU Cooler, Case, HDD etc and currently ordered ASRock Fatal1ty H87 Performance motherboard and waiting for it's delivery in this week. My friend forcing me to buy Z87 board and saying that cards like GTX 760 will not perform good on the board i ordered even on stock.. problem is the 4th Gen boards are quiet limited here and expensive almost double the price of H series unlike Z77 which are quiet affordable but only supports Sandy & Ivy's and Haswell has a new socket 1150. Also previously i was on LGA 775 and this is gonna be my first i5 desktop system! :huh: and now i want to have the latest system.

 

[paulpicks21]

I don't see any reason the performance should be any different on a H board compared to a Z board using a single GPU with the same CPU at stock. Both would be using PCI-e 3 at X16. So in theory the performance should be identical.

 

[boogieboy]

that's exactly how i think too paulpicks when using single gpu and on stock even if the cpu and gpu are overclocked on same clocks so they should technically perform eqaulant

 

[kbrady1979]

Can you overclock on an H series motherboard?

 

[paulpicks21]

Can you overclock on an H series motherboard?

It has/is being locked out on the new Haswell ones Kelly - Intel updates microcode to block H87/B85 overclocking | bit-tech.net

But in the original post we were talking about stock speeds not overclocked.

 

[kbrady1979]

OK. If you have a 4570K already, why not get the full potential with a Z87 motherboard?

 

[paulpicks21]

OK. If you have a 4570K already, why not get the full potential with a Z87 motherboard?

He kind of put that in the first post Kelly, they are limited availability where he is and almost double the price.

I guess it's a budget thing, but then maybe it would have been better to go for a non K series CPU.

 

[kbrady1979]

Well, if they get an H series board, and then realize later on they want a Z series board so they can OC, they aren't saving any money. Also, there are plenty of reasonably priced Z87 boards from Asus that have what you need and use quality components. I really don't seen any point of an H/B series board with an unlocked CPU.

 

[paulpicks21]

Well, if they get an H series board, and then realize later on they want a Z series board so they can OC, they aren't saving any money. Also, there are plenty of reasonably priced Z87 boards from Asus that have what you need and use quality components. I really don't seen any point of an H/B series board with an unlocked CPU.

I totally agree there Kelly, it defeats the object.

But I am waffling on and this has moved away from the original question.

 

[kbrady1979]

Back on topic then. A single video card will perform the same on either series motherboard.

 

[boogieboy]

OK. If you have a 4570K already, why not get the full potential with a Z87 motherboard?

He kind of put that in the first post Kelly, they are limited availability where he is and almost double the price.

I guess it's a budget thing, but then maybe it would have been better to go for a non K series CPU.

The ASrock Fatal1ty H87 Performance supports overclocking and it costed me $150
http://www.asrock.com/mb/Intel/Fatal1ty%20H87%20Performance/

also lets jump to the real question!... ocing cpu is a different thing.. right now i have plan to get a Geforce GTX 760 and i wanna know is that theory of performance difference of Single GPU on a H or Z series chipset is true or false?

 

[paulpicks21]

I stand by what I said, the theory is false.

The 760 will perform exactly the same on the H series board you have bought as it would on a Z series.

 

[essenbe]

I agree with Paul and Kelly. The performance should be exactly the same. As for overclocking it, I am sure you could. But, as a practical mayyer, there is no reason you should need to. I have a GTX 670 and have yet to find a game that it won't play on highest settings, with ease. Your GPU should be stronger than mine. The only reason to OC it, would be for a benchmark. Ask Paul about that, he is the Benchmark King.

 

[kbrady1979]

The only way you would see any more performance with a Z series board would be if you OC'd the processor and got a few more frames per second in a game...but that would solely be because of the CPU, not the GPU.

 

[Solarstarshines]

OK. If you have a 4570K already, why not get the full potential with a Z87 motherboard?

He kind of put that in the first post Kelly, they are limited availability where he is and almost double the price.

I guess it's a budget thing, but then maybe it would have been better to go for a non K series CPU.

The ASrock Fatal1ty H87 Performance supports overclocking and it costed me $150
ASRock > Fatal1ty H87 Performance

also lets jump to the real question!... ocing cpu is a different thing.. right now i have plan to get a Geforce GTX 760 and i wanna know is that theory of performance difference of Single GPU on a H or Z series chipset is true or false?

That's a decent board for the money I mean how much are you going to oc ?

Asrock extreme4 Z87 is the same price pretty soon I am going to grab a I7 4770k and that board and just re do with what I have here on my current set up

 

[boogieboy]

I stand by what I said, the theory is false.

The 760 will perform exactly the same on the H series board you have bought as it would on a Z series.

Thanks alot for helping me Paul now i have a answer to give to my friend who is thinking absolutely wrong! I will tell him it's not like what he thinks.

I agree with Paul and Kelly. The performance should be exactly the same. As for overclocking it, I am sure you could. But, as a practical mayyer, there is no reason you should need to. I have a GTX 670 and have yet to find a game that it won't play on highest settings, with ease. Your GPU should be stronger than mine. The only reason to OC it, would be for a benchmark. Ask Paul about that, he is the Benchmark King.

Thanks alot Steve for the great info i'll definitely be in touch with paul when it comes to OCing.

The only way you would see any more performance with a Z series board would be if you OC'd the processor and got a few more frames per second in a game...but that would solely be because of the CPU, not the GPU.

Thank you Kelly i totally agree with you.

That's a decent board for the money I mean how much are you going to oc ?

Asrock extreme4 Z87 is the same price pretty soon I am going to grab a I7 4770k and that board and just re do with what I have here on my current set up

Yup it's a good board Tommy well for now i think i'll be pushing it over 4.2GHz something on air...

Too bad in my country prices don't go down until the stock lasts.. the Z87 are starting from $220 here

 

[Victor S]

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[boogieboy]

LOL will do