SSD - Install and Transfer the Operating System

How to Physically Install a SSD and Transfer the Operating System


Introduction

If you never owned an SSD, you have missed something. Yes, they are not cheap, but Dollar per Dollar there is no other piece of hardware that can give you as much additional performance than an SSD.

Because SSDs are expensive, their current use is for placing the operating system. That’s how you get the best mileage. Although XP and Vista can be installed on SSDs, it is recommended to use them for Windows7, which is the first system to support Trim.

For desktops, an SSD with a 60GB capacity is usually sufficient. The user data can be moved to the HDD – I will explain the procedure later. Should you have very large programs, e.g., games, you should move their program files during the installation of the game to the HDD too.

For laptops, the situation is more complicated because you usually have only one disk bay. I use 80GB and 90GB SSDs on my laptops. In addition, I use the HDD that I recovered from the laptop after I installed the SSD in an external USB enclosure. But, if you move around a lot with the laptop, that may not be so convenient and a bigger SSD (120GB or 250GB) may be in order (budget allowing).


Hardware Installation

For a desktop, you will need a bracket if it is a 2.5” SSD (like most today). But, there are also 3.5” SSDs that will fit without adaptor brackets into the disk bays. You also need a cable to attach the SSD to the motherboard. For electricity, there is usually an extra plug at the PSU which you can use for the SSD’s.

Once you have all those bits, you can install the SSD in an available disk bay – or if none available, some self-adhesive Velcro will also do. The SSDs are light and do not produce any vibration or heat.

For a laptop, you need an external enclosure that attaches to a USB port. That will allow you to make the initial SSD setups. The one I linked attaches via USB2 and eSata, which may be practical later to use as external drive with the HDD that you recovered from the laptop. Also for hot swapping bare bone HDDs. But there are cheaper enclosures for USB2 only and also some that allow attachment to USB3.

Transfer the Operating System

There are two ways to transfer the operating system from your current HDD to the SSD:
1. The Geeky way which comes for free and
2. The easy way that costs $19.95.

1.The Geeky way requires the following steps:

Prepare the SSD – You first have to initialize the SSD to create the MBR. You can do that with Disk Management or with this program (which you will need later anyhow).

Then you need to align the SSD and define an active partition on it. You use an elevated Command Prompt with the following commands:

Diskpart
List disk
Select disk n (where n is the number that was given for your SSD in List disk)
Clean
Create partition primary align=1024
Format fs=ntfs quick
Active (assuming you want to install an OS)
Exit

Note: If you are more comfortable working with Disk Management, you can also define a primary active partition with Disk Management. On a SSD, the partition will be automatically aligned by 1024.


If you want to verify that the alignment is correct, you use these commands:

Diskpart
List disk
Select disk n
List partition



You should see a result like this:

Partition ### Type Size Offset


------------- ---------------- ------- -------
Partition 1 Primary 59 GB

1024 KB - but 64KB or any number divisible by 4 is also good. The offset has to be divisible by 4.

In Windows7, you may have the 100MB active boot partition. The easiest way to deal with that is to move the bootmgr to the C: partition using EasyBCD. That you do on your HDD before you transfer anything to the SSD. Then you do not have to worry about it and you need only transfer the C: partition to the SSD.


But if you care to keep the 100MB partition, then the partition you just created on the SSD is for that 100MB partition. The next step is to shrink the partition you just created to a 100MB size (make sure it is not any smaller). With Disk Management you will have trouble to do that. I recommend this program for the operation.

From the free space you gained, you create the C: partition for the OS. This partition must not be active and need not be a primary (because the 100MB partition contains the boot manager).

Alternatively and easier is if you first create the 100MB partition with these commands:

Diskpart
List disk
Select disk n (where n is the number that was given for your SSD in List disk)
Clean
Create partition primary size=100 align=1024
Format fs=ntfs quick
Active
Exit

Note: The unit in the size parameter is MB

After this action you can use Disk Management to create the C partition from the remaining unallocated space. That can be a logical partition.

If there is no 100MB partition, things are easy. The partition you created with Command Prompt will receive the C partition including boot manager and all.

There may be more partitions on your factory HDD – e.g., the Recovery partition and a Tools Partition. Those you should not transfer to the SSD because of space constraints. I would back them up – e.g., with an imaging program. The Recovery Partition you can also burn to DVDs.

The OS transfer

This is done with an image. There are a variety of free imaging programs (e.g., the free editions of Macrium, Paragon, Acronis, etc.) that are suitable for the task. You can also use the Windows7 imaging, which has the advantage that it deals with the 100MB active boot partition automatically. Disadvantage is that you never know exactly what it does.

You image your partitions to an external disk (you may have to assign a drive letter to the 100MB partition so that the imaging program can identify it) and then pull the images back in to the SSD (using the bootable recovery program of the imaging program).
The recovery is partition by partition. So you have to make separate runs for the 100MB partition (if any) and the C: partition.

Note: Many free imaging programs cannot shrink the originating partition to fit into the usually much smaller C: partition on the SSD - even if the amount of data in that partition would fit. In that case you will need to shrink the C: partition on the HDD prior to imaging it. The HDD C: partition must be smaller or equal in size to the designated partition on the SSD. For that operation I also recommend this program because Disk Management might not be able to shrink it enough. Note: Free Macrium can image to a smaller disk if the data fits.

It is, of course, understood, that the amount of data on your HDD C: partition must not exceed the capacity of the designated C: partition on the SSD. Should you have more data on your HDD C: partition than the size of the SSD C: partition can hold, I suggest you first create a data partition on the HDD system and move the user data there. Here is my video tutorial that explains how this is done. When you finally are on the SSD system, you then right click on the user folders in the data partition (Documents, Pictures, etc.) and Include them into the appropriate library. That approach does not require you to move the user folders later.

Next step is to change the boot sequence in the BIOS to set the SSD as second boot device (leave the CD/DVD reader as first boot device) and, hopefully, your system will boot.

2.The easy way for transferring the OS requires you to purchase this program. It does everything for you – alignment, deals with the 100MB partition, transfers C:, shrinks the originating partition, etc. All you will have to do is change the boot sequence.

Note: Before you activate the SSD, it is recommended to set the BIOS to AHCI. Best time to do that is just before you change the boot sequence. Once Windows7 is running, you make the corresponding settings in the OS. Here is a tutorial on how to do that.
Many people claim that there is a significant performance gain with AHCI. I, however, did not see that. But it may be different from system to system.

Settings after the OS transfer

Disk Defragmentation makes no sense on an SSD. For a laptop, go into Services, navigate to Disk Defragmenter, right click on it and go to Properties. Here you set the service to Disabled.
For a desktop, you may want to disable defrag in the Disk Defragmenter and only for the SSD so that the remaining HDDs can still be defragmented.

Note: As long as Defrag Service is turned off, you cannot shrink any partition. The partition shrink process requires the Defrag service. If you need to shrink a partition later, turn the Defragmentation Service temporarily on.

Hibernation File – most of us do not use Hibernation, but Sleep instead. But, the hiberfile takes precious space on your SSD – to the same tune as the size as your RAM. To get rid of it, run the following command in elevated Command Prompt: powercfg –h off. If you ever want it back, it is powercfg – h on.

Superfetch – many “experts” suggest to turn Superfetch off. I think that is not appropriate. Fetching a program or data from RAM is still a lot faster than fetching it from a disk – even from an SSD.

There are no other settings that are necessary. On the SSD forums you will find a lot of tweaks. I recommend you stay away from them.


Move the user folders to the HDD

To move the user folders to the HDD is very simple. Create a Data partition on the HDD. Define folders in that partition – e.g., Documents, Music, Pictures, etc. One for each folder you want to move off the SSD. The name of those folders can be anything. The system will rename them anyhow. It is just more obvious if you call them by the same name as the originating folders.

Then, open the Explorer and right click on, e.g., My Documents folder (not the Documents Library) in the left pane. Go to Properties and click on the Location tab. Here you click on Move and navigate to the corresponding folder in your Data Partition on the HDD. Then you Select that folder and Apply it.

Very Important: You must move the SSD folder to the corresponding Data Partition folder – NOT to the root of the partition itself. That would create a mess.








 
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Ve-r-r-r-y interesting stuff Jeanine and Wolfgang talk about. First, I'm also afflicted with leg cramps that can pop me out of a very sound sleep. I use salt and take Calcium+Vitamin D tabs every day and it helps a lot unless I walk too much or climb up and down a ladder. I'm a very senior experienced geek too.

Jeanine, I like the transfer case you modded, and the notes to yourself, something I would need if I travelled.
I wonder why the alignment is like that though instead of 1024K? I saw another one similar here, http://www.sevenforums.com/hardware-devices/213193-show-us-your-ssd-performance-2-a.html#post2622626 and asked if Wolfgang could speak to it.

Yesterday I used Magician for the first time in a couple of weeks and there is a new version of it, 4.3 I think, plus new 840EVO firmware in my case. It supports Rapid mode in the 840 Pro and other Samsung SSDs now. :)
 

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Gary, the funny alignment of my M4 is a long story. One day I discovered that the thing was not aligned - who knows why. Rather than going thru a long procedure following my own tutorial (LOL), I took the shortcut. I defined a mini partition in front of C with Partition Wizard bootable CD. That did the trick. I lost a few bytes on the SSD because the PW slider is not that precise - but so what.
 

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I see, just having the mini partition made the alignment OK?
 

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Ve-r-r-r-y interesting stuff Jeanine and Wolfgang talk about...

It's Jeannie, not Jeanine (don't feel bad; everyone messes my name up) ;)

...First, I'm also afflicted with leg cramps that can pop me out of a very sound sleep. I use salt and take Calcium+Vitamin D tabs every day and it helps a lot unless I walk too much or climb up and down a ladder. I'm a very senior experienced geek too...

My calcium levels are OK. Although I will see my doctor early next year but his assistant called to say my Vitamin was low (should have been no less than 30 and it was 23) and he had sent a prescription to my pharmacy. I'll have to go back to get it checked again in three months. I have to clear any OTC meds I take with my doctor because of all the prescription meds I'm on.

...Jeanine, I like the transfer case you modded, and the notes to yourself, something I would need if I travelled...

Here is a link for the 3.5" version and the 2.5" version. There is another 3.5" version that is the same size as the 2.5" version but it doesn't have near the padding the bigger one does. The foam in the cases is not antistatic so it is necessary to keep the drives in antistatic sleeves (I have links for those if you need them). Also, this outfit doesn't charge a flat shipping rate for each one so, if you want to eventually get several of them, it's cheaper to order them all at once than one at a time.

...I wonder why the alignment is like that though instead of 1024K? I saw another one similar here, http://www.sevenforums.com/hardware-devices/213193-show-us-your-ssd-performance-2-a.html#post2622626 and asked if Wolfgang could speak to it....

The idea is for the number that shows up to be evenly divisible by 1024 (in this case, it comes out to 201). What I like about AS SSD is, if the alignment is off, it will spell it out instead of me having to do the math (yeah, I'm lazy).

...Yesterday I used Magician for the first time in a couple of weeks and there is a new version of it, 4.3 I think, plus new 840EVO firmware in my case. It supports Rapid mode in the 840 Pro and other Samsung SSDs now. :)

The new one is what I used to check my new SSD. I haven't bothered to upgrade the one on my desktop yet.
 

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The idea is for the number that shows up to be evenly divisible by 1024
Has to be only divisible by 4. E.g and alignment of 64 works too.
 

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The idea is for the number that shows up to be evenly divisible by 1024
Has to be only divisible by 4. E.g and alignment of 64 works too.

Oopsie. I stand...er...sit corrected. :o I'll just let AS SSD do the work for me.
 

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Ve-r-r-r-y interesting stuff Jeanine and Wolfgang talk about. First, I'm also afflicted with leg cramps that can pop me out of a very sound sleep. I use salt and take Calcium+Vitamin D tabs every day and it helps a lot unless I walk too much or climb up and down a ladder. I'm a very senior experienced geek too.

Jeanine, I like the transfer case you modded, and the notes to yourself, something I would need if I travelled.
I wonder why the alignment is like that though instead of 1024K? I saw another one similar here, http://www.sevenforums.com/hardware-devices/213193-show-us-your-ssd-performance-2-a.html#post2622626 and asked if Wolfgang could speak to it.

Yesterday I used Magician for the first time in a couple of weeks and there is a new version of it, 4.3 I think, plus new 840EVO firmware in my case. It supports Rapid mode in the 840 Pro and other Samsung SSDs now. :)
I think the alignment shown on my OS SSD is due to the fact that I have a 205 MB system reserved partition in front of the OS partition.
 

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Sorry Jeannie, I know I typed Jeannie but it came out as Jeanine, I need a new keyboard, it often types "form" when I input "from".;)
 

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ASUS P8Z68-V PRO/GEN3
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16GB G.Skill Sniper 1866MHz @ 2133MHz 2x8GB
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Corsair HX650W
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Sorry Jeannie, I know I typed Jeannie but it came out as Jeanine, I need a new keyboard, it often types "form" when I input "from".;)

Don't feel bad; one of my closest friends called me Jenny for five years before she got the memo. And I do the same thing with form and from. And fro and for.
 

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Corsair HX750w
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I have a question about Paragon Migrate OS to SSD!
does it transfer the recovery partition?
(I mean the hidden partition containing windows files and manufacture data which is about 20GB in my laptop)
and will the "recovery consule" work after Migration?

The Acronis True Image suggests a long procedure for this job and says it is not working with its migration tool!
"If your system hard disk also contains a hidden recovery or diagnostic partition, as is quite often the case with notebooks, the procedure will differ. You will usually need to resize the partitions manually during recovery to the SSD. For instructions see Recovering a disk with a hidden partition"
 
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No, Paragon will not migrate the recovery partition. All it will migrate is the system reserved partition and the partition with the OS on it.

I found just using Macrium Reflect to clone my HDD to my new SSD worked best (Paragon and Samsung's Migration Tool were total fails). I didn't even have to realign the SSD or turn on trim afterwards. I did have to disable defrag.
 

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MSI R7850 Twin Frozr 2GD5/OC Radeon HD 7850 2GB 256-bit GDDR
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3x Asus VG248QE 24", Vizio 32" TV
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Samsung 128GB 840 Pro SSD (1),
Samsung 4TB 850 EVO SSDs (4)
Samsung 4TB 850 EVO SSDs (16) external backup drives used in 2.5" hot swap bays in the computer.
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Corsair HX750w
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Antec Two Hundred v2 (modified)
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Cooler Master GeminII S524 120mm (fan replaced with a 140mm)
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Logitech G510s
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Logitech M525 (two in use)
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=< 32Mbps down, 8Mbps up
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AVAST!, MBAM, SAS, Spybot S&D (all but MBAM free) Glary Util
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IE11
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No, Paragon will not migrate the recovery partition. All it will migrate is the system reserved partition and the partition with the OS on it.

I found just using Macrium Reflect to clone my HDD to my new SSD worked best (Paragon and Samsung's Migration Tool were total fails). I didn't even have to realign the SSD or turn on trim afterwards. I did have to disable defrag.
Thank u.
You mean macrium reflect will migrate the recovery partition? can i do this without hdd enclosure and only with an external hard drive?
cuz i dont have the enlosure :-(
can u explain the procedure u did?
 

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The Paragon Migration tool does transfer the hidden 200MB system partition - has to, because that's where your bootmgr resides. But that is NOT the recovery partition which is usually appr. 10GB and which is not transferred to the SSD.

The recovery console will work but you cannot restore to factory conditions. For that I suggest you make an early image after the tranfer.
 

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5x HDD, 7x SSD, 12x Externals
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with trackball - no mices
Mouse
Trackball mice
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DSL 6000
No, Paragon will not migrate the recovery partition. All it will migrate is the system reserved partition and the partition with the OS on it.

I found just using Macrium Reflect to clone my HDD to my new SSD worked best (Paragon and Samsung's Migration Tool were total fails). I didn't even have to realign the SSD or turn on trim afterwards. I did have to disable defrag.
Thank u.
You mean macrium reflect will migrate the recovery partition? can i do this without hdd enclosure and only with an external hard drive?
cuz i dont have the enlosure :-(
can u explain the procedure u did?

Yes, Macrium Reflect will migrate all partitions. Basically, you are not migrating; you are cloning. If the drive you are migrating to is smaller than the one you are migrating from, you probably wouldn't be able to do so. Also, I don't know if the recovery partition will work with the new drive so whs' advice to take an early image is spot on. Also, you will be better off using a dock for the drive you are cloning to than trying to use an external HDD. I'm not even certain you can use an external HDD for that.
 

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Win 7 Ultimate 64 bit
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Intel i7-3930K
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ASUS P9X79 WS
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Kingston HyperX Genesis 32GB Kit (8x4GB Modules) 1600MHz DDR
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MSI R7850 Twin Frozr 2GD5/OC Radeon HD 7850 2GB 256-bit GDDR
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Asus Xonar Essence STX
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Samsung 128GB 840 Pro SSD (1),
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Corsair HX750w
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Generally Macrium does a good job with different sized drives, as long as the data from the old drive is smaller than the new drive's capacity. If it is much smaller it makes an unallocated partition, or has twice for me.
 

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Intel i5-2550K, Differing ~4.4-4.8GHz No built in GPU
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ASUS P8Z68-V PRO/GEN3
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16GB G.Skill Sniper 1866MHz @ 2133MHz 2x8GB
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Inwin Dragon Rider
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E-Z Eyes, bright yellow keys with large characters
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steelseries SENSEI Laser Pro Gaming
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Norton Internet Security 2013
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IE 10, Opera, Pale Moon if needed
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Generally Macrium does a good job with different sized drives, as long as the data from the old drive is smaller than the new drive's capacity. If it is much smaller it makes an unallocated partition, or has twice for me.

Exactly.
 

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Win 7 Ultimate 64 bit
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Intel i7-3930K
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ASUS P9X79 WS
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Kingston HyperX Genesis 32GB Kit (8x4GB Modules) 1600MHz DDR
Graphics Card(s)
MSI R7850 Twin Frozr 2GD5/OC Radeon HD 7850 2GB 256-bit GDDR
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Asus Xonar Essence STX
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3x Asus VG248QE 24", Vizio 32" TV
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1920 x 1080, ?
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Samsung 128GB 840 Pro SSD (1),
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Samsung 4TB 850 EVO SSDs (16) external backup drives used in 2.5" hot swap bays in the computer.
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Corsair HX750w
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Antec Two Hundred v2 (modified)
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Cooler Master GeminII S524 120mm (fan replaced with a 140mm)
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Logitech G510s
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IE11
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I've imaged the recovery partition using Macrium to a new HDD and performed a factory restore without problems. But in my case (an old ACER desktop) the new HDD needed to be the same size as the old one. If you have say a 1TB HDD and put the recovery partition on say a 256 GB SSD I wouldn't expect it to work. I'd definitely try it first.
With Macrium an image restore using their drag and drop method should allow you to migrate to a smaller drive.
v5: How to restore a backup image (Restore, v5)
 

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Generally Macrium does a good job with different sized drives, as long as the data from the old drive is smaller than the new drive's capacity. If it is much smaller it makes an unallocated partition, or has twice for me.

Exactly.
:ditto: I believe the paid version does all kinds of extra stuff but the free version is excellent. I have been using it for several years. Someone on The Register recommended it so I downloaded it. Never used anything else since. I think they have put Norton Ghost out of business.
 

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ASUSTeK COMPUTER INC. SABERTOOTH 990FX R2.0 (Socket 942)
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G Skill 32.0GB Dual-Channel DDR3 @ 1204MHz (11-13-13-31)
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Creative X-Fi Titanium HD Audiophile PCIe
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LG L227WTG x 3
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238GB Samsung850 PRO SATA Disk Device (SSD)
1863GB Seagate ST2000DM 001-1CH164 (SATA)
1397GB Seagate ST1500DL 003-9VT16L(SATA)
466GB Western Digital WDC WD50 03AZEX-00K1GA0 (SATA) x 2
932GB Seagate ST310005 28AS SATA Disk Device (SATA)
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Enermax Revolution87+ 1000 Watts Gold Certified Power Supply
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Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO Push Pull 120mm Fans
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Logitech K740
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500 mbs down and 30mbs up
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Malwarebytes Pro & Avast and MSE on certain Virtual Machines
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Firefox (Main) Chrome, Internet Explorer (Back Up)
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Generally Macrium does a good job with different sized drives, as long as the data from the old drive is smaller than the new drive's capacity. If it is much smaller it makes an unallocated partition, or has twice for me.

Exactly.
:ditto: I believe the paid version does all kinds of extra stuff but the free version is excellent. I have been using it for several years. Someone on The Register recommended it so I downloaded it. Never used anything else since. I think they have put Norton Ghost out of business.

You are correct; the paid version does quite a bit more but, as you said, the free version is excellent and will meet the needs of most people. I personally prefer the paid version. I have four licenses (four didn't cost any more than the two I needed) that are lifetime for the current version of the paid version. That version will still be good after the new version comes out; it just won't get any more updates. I won't upgrade unless the new version has one or more features I could really benefit from.
 

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Intel i7-3930K
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Kingston HyperX Genesis 32GB Kit (8x4GB Modules) 1600MHz DDR
Graphics Card(s)
MSI R7850 Twin Frozr 2GD5/OC Radeon HD 7850 2GB 256-bit GDDR
Sound Card
Asus Xonar Essence STX
Monitor(s) Displays
3x Asus VG248QE 24", Vizio 32" TV
Screen Resolution
1920 x 1080, ?
Hard Drives
Samsung 128GB 840 Pro SSD (1),
Samsung 4TB 850 EVO SSDs (4)
Samsung 4TB 850 EVO SSDs (16) external backup drives used in 2.5" hot swap bays in the computer.
PSU
Corsair HX750w
Case
Antec Two Hundred v2 (modified)
Cooling
Cooler Master GeminII S524 120mm (fan replaced with a 140mm)
Keyboard
Logitech G510s
Mouse
Logitech M525 (two in use)
Internet Speed
=< 32Mbps down, 8Mbps up
Antivirus
AVAST!, MBAM, SAS, Spybot S&D (all but MBAM free) Glary Util
Browser
IE11
Other Info
LSI 9211-8i HBA card (8 SATA III ports), 2.5" & 3.5" Hot Swap Bays, HooToo HT-CR001 PCI-E to USB 3.0 Internal Hub + 6 Slot Card Reader, and LG Model CH12LS28 BD-ROM Optical Drive. Also, ScanSnap S1500 ADF duplexing scanner, Canon 9000F flat bed scanner, Corsair SP2500 2.1 speakers, Samsung CLP 415nw laser color printer, Cyberpower PP2200SW UPS
Personal - Macrium Software

It is on my "list" to get the Macrioum 4 license PRO pack along with a few SSD's a 60" TV (I don't see as well as I used to but my Sony 57" PTV is 10 years old and still has a fantastic picture, I do know how good it is, repairing them was what I did) 3 of the same 16:10 monitors to replace the 3 on my desk that have nothing wrong with them.....and so on. I am sure all us Geeks have the same kind of list.
 

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AMD FX-8350 Vishera 32nm Technology @ 4.2 GHz default
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ASUSTeK COMPUTER INC. SABERTOOTH 990FX R2.0 (Socket 942)
Memory
G Skill 32.0GB Dual-Channel DDR3 @ 1204MHz (11-13-13-31)
Graphics Card(s)
EVGA GeForce GTX 960 4GB Super SC ACX 2.0+ with Back Plate
Sound Card
Creative X-Fi Titanium HD Audiophile PCIe
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LG L227WTG x 3
Screen Resolution
1680 x 1050 16:10
Hard Drives
238GB Samsung850 PRO SATA Disk Device (SSD)
1863GB Seagate ST2000DM 001-1CH164 (SATA)
1397GB Seagate ST1500DL 003-9VT16L(SATA)
466GB Western Digital WDC WD50 03AZEX-00K1GA0 (SATA) x 2
932GB Seagate ST310005 28AS SATA Disk Device (SATA)
PSU
Enermax Revolution87+ 1000 Watts Gold Certified Power Supply
Case
Rocketfish Full Tower
Cooling
Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO Push Pull 120mm Fans
Keyboard
Logitech K740
Mouse
Logitech G100S Laser LED + Logitech Gamepad F310
Internet Speed
500 mbs down and 30mbs up
Antivirus
Malwarebytes Pro & Avast and MSE on certain Virtual Machines
Browser
Firefox (Main) Chrome, Internet Explorer (Back Up)
Other Info
Logitech X 230 2.1 Stereo System and 5.1 Yamaha RX V2090
B&W DM6 Monitor Speakers + Center and Surround Speakers
Using Mouse Without Borders (Google it)
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