Anand/DailyTech - Majority of 7 Installs to be 64 bit

[Scotteq]

DailyTech - Majority of Windows 7 Installations Will Be 64-bit

Microsoft Says Tipping Point Already Reached


According to a source inside Microsoft, over 25 percent of Vista installations in the US at the end of last year were 64-bit. There were several major drivers for the switch to 64-bit, most related to cheap DDR2 DRAM.

Jon DeVaan, Senior Vice-President of the Windows Core Operating System Division, agrees. "From our point of view we believe that we have accomplished the tipping point in terms of 64-bit adoption. Now, this happened to a large degree because memory prices are coming down, and another dynamic that we've seen in the United States is that the retail channel is looking to use RAM upgrades as a way to boost margin. So what that means is that 64-bit machine run rate is increasing rapidly, and that means our ability to support those 64-bit machines fully in the broad ecosystem is a really important thing."

 

[Adamd]

Good!

Very happy to see 64 bit increasing.


People don't know what your missing with crappy 32bit lol.

 

[4tthieves]

I have to ask myself, is it the cheap ram, or the demanding video games, video task and all of the other demanding functions we perform on our computers now. The price of ram is nothing comparied to what we spend on cpu's, motherboard, and lcd monitors.

Just my thoughts, what's yours?

 

[limneos]

I have to ask myself, is it the cheap ram, or the demanding video games, video task and all of the other demanding functions we perform on our computers now. The price of ram is nothing comparied to what we spend on cpu's, motherboard, and lcd monitors.

Just my thoughts, what's yours?

I agree with that, but on already built systems, where you've already spent from 500-1000$, including CPU, motherboard, monitor etc, when RAM used to cost 100$ / Gig it would be an extra cost to spend another 300$ to go from 1G to 4G. Now you can get 1GB with 12$.

They might have a point.

 

[renthor]

People don't know what your missing with crappy 32bit lol.

Heh some of us are unfortunatley stuck with crappy 32bit...

Now you can get 1GB with 12$.

Yeah, I just spent 40 bucks to upgrade to 4GB, and that's buying 4 new sticks, it is dirt cheap. If I'm going to be stuck with 32bit, I may as well make the most of it.

 

[Romulinx2]

I went with 64bit processing years ago. Think it was XP-pro 64?

 

[patrickt]

After a disaster with Windows7 64bit, which required unplugging my hard drives to boot from a DVD, I'll wait for the promised "full support".

 

[Lebon14]

Now you can get 1GB with 12$.

Here, in Canada, where I live, you need AT LEAST 25$ for 1GB. ~120$ for 4GB. B*tches.

 

[jlindblo]

Now if you're buying DDR3 for an i7 system that's a different story! I just paid $180 for 6 GB!

 

[garysgold]

Now if you're buying DDR3 for an i7 system that's a different story! I just paid $180 for 6 GB!

That is exactly why I have decided to wait a year give or take. To give time for the new technology to come down in price.

Gary

 

[absolute3d]

64bit is the future Like Microsoft chief says : "Windows 7 will be the last OS with both 32 and 64bit version"

 

[garysgold]

64bit is the future Like Microsoft chief says : "Windows 7 will be the last OS with both 32 and 64bit version"

Hello absolute3d,

Welcome to the forums.

We can only hope, but that's what they said about Vista also. Maybe they just want to wait a while longer for people to upgrade to newer equipment. I have the equipment would just like to see my major apps come out in 64 bit.

Gary

 

[absolute3d]

I hope that future OS will be only in 64bit version, so the costs will decrease (developping only 32bit OS and programs will be cheaper) and the performances increase. I work like 3d modeller and renderer and we only use 64bit OS and programs, due to the huge RAM requests...so i really love 64bit world

Thanks for welcome man Have a nice day (or evening dunno) eheh

 

[darkassain]

64bit is the future Like Microsoft chief says : "Windows 7 will be the last OS with both 32 and 64bit version"

i completely agree, but i never found where he actually said that...

i mean the clues are there....
you only have to look into the news of the server editions to see the where it windows is going....

the kernel was and is almost complete by the time windows server 2008 was gold...

TG Daily - No completely new kernel in Windows 7, Microsoft says
basicly here

Sinofsky said that the Windows 7 kernel will be related to today’s Vista kernel: Windows 7 will be based on the kernel of Windows Server 2008 kernel, which is an evolution of the Windows Vista kernel.

since we know that windows vista was based on Server 2003 and as said also here...

so its only obvious that Windows 8 will based on Windows Server 2008 R2 which is completely 64bit...

so thats how i reason it....

oh and welcome to the forums....

 

[shezzuk1]

That is exactly why I have decided to wait a year give or take. To give time for the new technology to come down in price.

Gary

Yeah, but by then they'll have ddr4? and i8? processors...best to buy now to take advantage of cutting edge stuff like I did.

I bought an Acer Aspire M7720 with i7 920 cpu with 6 gigs of ram and 1 gig ATI Radeon HD 4850 graphics a month ago....best £900 I ever spent I'll tell you (Runs Crysis on max settings perfectly, and GTA4). I now run vista 64bit Home Premium but I downloaded 64 bit Win 7 and it's sitting on my 1 terabyte sata 2 hard drive just waiting to be burned to dvd disk and installed...I'm gonna wait a while till the next beta release tho I think. I may go with what I've now got but I've read some conflicting reports about it.

RE: admin....nice site!

 

[rabihfiras]

Thank You for sharing.

 

[SiliconAddict]

I have to ask myself, is it the cheap ram, or the demanding video games, video task and all of the other demanding functions we perform on our computers now. The price of ram is nothing comparied to what we spend on cpu's, motherboard, and lcd monitors.

Just my thoughts, what's yours?

Its price, but it also Vista system requirements. The general consensus has been that the sweet spot for Vista is 2GB of RAM. Part of that reason is integrated graphics that use system memory. That unified memory architecture crap on the low end. If its eating 256GB of memory for graphics then you need to stick a bit more memory in there to compensate.
So if you go here: Dell Inspiron 1420 Laptop Product Details

You will see that 2GB is pretty much IT with 3GB for the upper low end...wow that makes sense.

Well if base system are going to be shipping with 2GB, premium systems are generally going to cater to more, and usually that means double. So 4GB becomes the high end. At that point you loose access to memory and that is why 64-bit is becoming more commonplace. That isn't to say there are no other factors involved. Price, games, and lets been frank....64-bit has gotten WAY better with Vista and SP1. But I think the above plays more of a factor then anything else. IMHO of course.