EVGA - What would you pay for PCIE cables?

[sygnus21]

I recently purchased an EVGA Supernova 1000 G2 power supply for my rig here and though I love it, I’m not particularly a fan of the red PCIE power cables for the GPU.



In the end I wound up using my NZXT’s extension cables to hide the red cables, though I really love a true 8 pin to 6+2 PCIE VGA cable.

Anyway searching the net for one I came across a post and contact for EVGA. I e-mail the rep asking about replacement cables, even stating that I’d be willing to pay.

Unfortunately the reply was there were none available. I followed up his reply stating that EVGA should consider providing a set of black cables for those of us not wanting red. I also stated that I’d be interested in what the feedback on these are, or amount of inquiries on obtaining black ones are. I got this question back…

Andrew

Let me ask you a question, if I was to say we offered a Set of Black cables, what would you be willing to pay for them?

If they came individually sleeved, would you pay more and if so, how much?

Thanks for any feedback!

My answer….

That’s a hard one but if we looked at the market price of NZXT’s extension cables, which are also individually sleeved, they run about $7 dollars each. With that, if we’re talking a full cable capable of fitting into a modular power supply, and being a true 8-pin to 6+2, I’d say $24 for a pair, 11.99 each. I’d be careful of the pricing though as extension cables are readily available, and if the price is too high, customers may simply go that way. The other thing you may have to factor in is shipping – how much and how long a wait.

Now the way I see it, if they are going to provide a true 8-pin to 6+2 cable, I’d pay for that. Especially if it’s universal, meaning it’ll fit any modular power supply.

Looking around the net, you’re hard pressed to find a cable such as the one described above unless they come with the PS. Anyway I gave a price of 24 bucks for a pair, 11.99 for a single one.

With that, what are your thought on this? Specifically if you had to pay, what would it be? Is 24/11.99 too high, too low, or just right? Why?

BTW if you want to see the seriousness and character of this representative check this thread… evga supernova 1000w g2 replacement cables? | EVGA Forums. Great customer service. Oh and he may check this thread as he stated he was looking forward to the feedback. Plus he’s already been here as he checked out my system.

Again, if EVGA were selling these what would you pay?

Thanks.

 

[Lady Fitzgerald]

No more than what you stated. But, then again, I would probably just make up my own cables. Then they would be a match for my other cables and would be exactly the correct length.

What was EVGA thinking when they came up with red PCI-e cables and black other PSU cables together?

 

[Britton30]

Drew I agree they should have simply made the cables all black, I'd not use red cables in anything.
Corsair had made replacement cables sets available for a few of their own PSUs, individually sleeved and in 3-4 colors. If I recall they were about $60 for a set.

Until the PSU makers come up with a standard there can't be a universal modular cable though. I have 3 Corsair HX series, 2 made by Seasonic and one by CWT and the cables aren't interchangeable.

What do you mean, " true 8-pin to 6+2 cable"?

 

[madcratebuilder]

Drew I agree they should have simply made the cables all black, I'd not use red cables in anything.
Corsair had made replacement cables sets available for a few of their own PSUs, individually sleeved and in 3-4 colors. If I recall they were about $60 for a set.

Until the PSU makers come up with a standard there can't be a universal modular cable though. I have 3 Corsair HX series, 2 made by Seasonic and one by CWT and the cables aren't interchangeable.

What do you mean, " true 8-pin to 6+2 cable"?

Until the PSU manufacturers come up with a standard on PSU pin outs, cabling well be a can of worms.

Something you could try with those red cables is spray paint. I know it sounds strange but it works, a few light coats of black lacquer. It chips easy but as long as you are gentle with it, it is cheap and it is black.

Custom cables can get spendy, Corsair custom set is over $100 for all of them, they sell the 24 pin cable for $25. This evilbay seller makes very nice cables (extensions) and they are very affordable. I'm doing a theme case "Ole Glory" in red, white and blue as tribute to disabled veterns and I had him make up red, white and blue unsleeved cables for me.

 

[Britton30]

I would not use lacquer, for the reason stated. These days it is acrylic Lacquer but will still get hard and inflexible when cured. Vibrations in the case could cause it to flake off and get into...everything.

Urethane, Automotive bumper paint, or paint specified for plastics will work much better. I have used Krylon Fusion with success.

 

[Lady Fitzgerald]

Black felt pens, while tedious to use, might also do the job and won't flake. Once upon a time, commercial stationery suppliers carried small cans of the ink. That stuff stains whatever it goes onto and won't flake off. If you can still get it, just use a lightly loaded, stiff bristle brush and "pounce" it onto the cable to push the ink into the weeve of the sleeving.

Plan B would be to make your own cable.

 

[madcratebuilder]

I would not use lacquer, for the reason stated. These days it is acrylic Lacquer but will still get hard and inflexible when cured. Vibrations in the case could cause it to flake off and get into...everything.

Urethane, Automotive bumper paint, or paint specified for plastics will work much better. I have used Krylon Fusion with success.

Your case vibrates?:shock:

I have to look at the led to see if mine is even power up. You must have used cheap paint, never had a problem with flaking myself.

Krylon, that explains it

 

[Britton30]

Yup, any/all cases with fans vibrate.

 

[sygnus21]

What do you mean, " true 8-pin to 6+2 cable"?

Almost all VGA extension cables come with a 6-pin connection at one end which attaches to the PS cable, while the other end is a 6 pin + 2-pin connector going to the GPU. If you look at this image here you'll see what I'm talking about: NZXT’s extension cables. Also, if you look closely at the image I posted you'd see there are 8-pins on both ends, with one side having a 6+2 split that connects to either a 6 or 8-pin GPU.

That's what I want available, even for sale.

Something you could try with those red cables is spray paint. I know it sounds strange but it works, a few light coats of black lacquer. It chips easy but as long as you are gentle with it, it is cheap and it is black.

Sorry but there's no way I'm spray painting any cables. It's simply not an attractive alternative.

Anyway I think you guys are missing the point of my post. I'm not looking for alternatives, and if you read my post, you'd see I have a solution. I'm asking if you had to pay for the cable I described in my opening post, how much would you pay. Forget the fact that black cables didn't come with the PS.

Thanks.

 

[Britton30]

Sorry Drew, I certainly won't offer any, possibly, useable alternatives to your posts in the future mate.

I see what you mean about the "true" 8-pin connector. The 2-pin part of a 6+2 pin PCIe connecter adds only two more ground/common/earth connections. Have the PSU end with 8 connectors is really no benefit, the same ground runs throughout the computer.

 

[sygnus21]

Sorry Drew, I certainly won't offer any, possibly, useable alternatives to your posts in the future mate.

Sorry you take it that way. I did explain what I was looking for in the original post.

I see what you mean about the "true" 8-pin connector. The 2-pin part of a 6+2 pin PCIe connecter adds only two more ground/common/earth connections. Have the PSU end with 8 connectors is really no benefit, the same ground runs throughout the computer.

You do have a point, but I prefer to have those pins connected as opposed to just dangling. Plus for me it's all about aesthetics, which is the point of building a clean system.

Obsessive... yeah, but why is a company like NZXT making a killing on "premium" cables


It all good though. And I note your frustration in closing your customer service thread

Peace

 

[madcratebuilder]

Anyway I think you guys are missing the point of my post. I'm not looking for alternatives, and if you read my post, you'd see I have a solution. I'm asking if you had to pay for the cable I described in my opening post, how much would you pay. Forget the fact that black cables didn't come with the PS.

I buy all my custom cables from this guy, "Ensourced custom sleeved cables", he has a evilbay store. 4, 6, 6+2, and 8 pin cost between 6 and 8 bucks for 50cm length. He can do custom requests, any color, any length, any connection. Superb workmanship and prices are competitive with Chinese imported cables.

I haven't found a better solution for custom installations, I'm doing a theme build "Ole Glory" and Ensourced supplied all the cabling is red, white and blue.

Yup, any/all cases with fans vibrate.

Noc's don't.

I can't fathom fan vibration causing paint to flake. Really?

The 2-pin part of a 6+2 pin PCIe connecter adds only two more ground/common/earth connections. Have the PSU end with 8 connectors is really no benefit, the same ground runs throughout the computer.

The extra ground wires are very important on these high current gpu's. At this high of current a inadequate ground can cause the existing ground wire(s) to overheat and melt. This has been a major problem with high current PSU's running block erupter blades and cubes, the oem wiring was 2 ground wires, but users soon discovered that with 2 grounds they would melt, the solution is add 2 more ground wires.

Manufacturers do not add extra wiring for shins and giggles, if the design engineer adds two more ground wires, it's for a reason.

 

[Lady Fitzgerald]

...I can't fathom fan vibration causing paint to flake. Really?...

Yes, really. Unless the paint is securely bonded to the surface (which is unlikely for a home application on a cable), even low level vibrations will eventually cause it to flake, especially on a surface that will flex, such as a cable.

 

[sygnus21]

The extra ground wires are very important on these high current gpu's. At this high of current a inadequate ground can cause the existing ground wire(s) to overheat and melt. This has been a major problem with high current PSU's running block erupter blades and cubes, the oem wiring was 2 ground wires, but users soon discovered that with 2 grounds they would melt, the solution is add 2 more ground wires.

Manufacturers do not add extra wiring for shins and giggles, if the design engineer adds two more ground wires, it's for a reason.

Great point, and also why I want a "true" 8-pin to 6+2 cable. I'm currently using NZXT's extension cables which only provides a 6-pin connector to the EVGA's 6+2 pin cable on one end, while providing the 6+2 pin connection to the GPU. I should add that my GPU requires two 8-pin connections.

To get an idea of what I'm talking about look closely at the red cables, you'll notice the "extra" ground wires on both cables aren't being used because the NZXT cables only provides a 6-pin connection at that end...



EVGA, may be readying for a solution, thus my question...

Specifically if you had to pay, what would it be? Is 24/11.99 too high, too low, or just right? Why?

Again, if EVGA were selling these what would you pay?

For those not understanding the question, please read/re-read the original post.

Thanks.

 

[Britton30]

Great point, and also why I want a "true" 8-pin to 6+2 cable. I'm currently using NZXT's extension cables which only provides a 6-pin connector to the EVGA's 6+2 pin cable on one end, while providing the 6+2 pin connection to the GPU. I should add that my GPU requires two 8-pin connections.

To get an idea of what I'm talking about look closely at the red cables, you'll notice the "extra" ground wires on both cables aren't being used because the NZXT cables only provides a 6-pin connection at that end...

This is really confusing Drew. If your GPU uses 2 8-pin connectors, there are
none hanging loose?

Never mind, I see you're meaning the extension cable to PCIe cable connection.

 

[sygnus21]

This is really confusing Drew. If your GPU uses 2 8-pin connectors, there are
none hanging loose?

Never mind, I see you're meaning the extension cable to PCIe cable connection.

That's ok Gary, trust me, I have my moments too

Anyway now you see where I'm coming from, and it really is hard to find a true 8-pin to 6+2 pin PCIE cable. I actually ordered two ATX 12V CPU cables but found out quickly those don't fit. Besides returning them, I looked like a fool

I actually found what I want here: Akasa FLEXA V8 8-Pin PCI-E Single Braid Extension Cable



but they're out of stock, return yet to be determined...

 

[Britton30]

Decent price Drew. I'd have to zip tie them, I'm OCD about "loose: wires like that.

 

[sygnus21]

So am I Gary. Notice the GPU wire bundle here. Those are the same type cables, other than being 6-pin on one end. Zip tied those bad boys

 

[madcratebuilder]

6 or 8 pin or any PC connector, any color, any length, sleeved or unsleeved, made in USA, less money than imports. Per earlier link.

 

[Britton30]

This is really confusing Drew. If your GPU uses 2 8-pin connectors, there are
none hanging loose?

Never mind, I see you're meaning the extension cable to PCIe cable connection.

That's ok Gary, trust me, I have my moments too

Anyway now you see where I'm coming from, and it really is hard to find a true 8-pin to 6+2 pin PCIE cable. I actually ordered two ATX 12V CPU cables but found out quickly those don't fit. Besides returning them, I looked like a fool

I actually found what I want here: Akasa FLEXA V8 8-Pin PCI-E Single Braid Extension Cable

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but they're out of stock, return yet to be determined...

I found out some time ago the CPU (EPS12V) connectors are keyed differently than the PCIe connectors. Good thing, the EPS has 4 12V+4 ground, while the 8-pin PCIe has 3 12V+5 grounds.