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Help me Please.....???
i used Windows 7 64-bit with 4GB of My RAM, But In My Computer detect Is 4GB ( 3.25 GB usable)
can i use FuLLY of may RAM.....??????:sarc:
 

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HOW to Change It..........????
 

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Do you have the BIOS manual? The website is not very helpful.

Try F2, Del, INS or other keys on boot to try. DO NOT CHANGE ANYTHING WITHOUT EXPERT ADVICE OR COUNSEL

Gurus - will a 945GC chip support PAE?
 
Huufffttt.....

i used Mobo winsonic WS 10201 v1.0a
..!!!
whether this could???

:cry:
 

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Some MB's set aside ram for the video card to use. :huh:
 

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YES or NO
Do you have the manual?

YES or NO
Did you try the suggested keys to open BIOS?

Please note: BIOS can only be opened during the boot process. Look at the screen for the proper key - it is often listed there.
 
Help me Please.....???
i used Windows 7 64-bit with 4GB of My RAM, But In My Computer detect Is 4GB ( 3.25 GB usable)
can i use FuLLY of may RAM.....??????:sarc:

Yes, you can. Go back to using Windows 7 64 Bit (or any other 64 Bit OS).

It all comes down to architecture, and hardware. Allow me to explain:

Computers are stupid machines, and "think" about numbers in Binary - 0's and 1's. What this means is the greater numbers of bits that can be processed at any given time, the greater the number that can be represented. Binary Numbers are read from right to left, with each successive digit representing a larger number. For example, the binary number "1111" is the number 15. It is calculated as follows:

1(8) 1(4) 1(2) 1(1)
8 + 4 + 2 + 1 = 15

Using various combinations of 0's and 1's, a 4 Bit number can represent the decimal numbers 0 to 15. You can calculate the possible number of deicmal numbers of any given "Bit Depth" using a simple math equation:

2 ^ [Bit Depth]

In the above example of a 4 Bit number, 2 ^ 4 = 16. With computers, when talking about 32 Bits or 64 Bits, we are actually referring to the maximum space addressable by memory. The maximum address space of 32-Bit can be calculated as follows

2 ^ 32 = 4,294,967,296 Bytes.

A common mistake to think of a KiloByte, MegaByte, Gigabyte, etc. in units of 1000, as we do with all decimal units of measurement. This is, however, incorrect. Think in units of 1024:

1 KiloByte (KB) = 1024 Bytes
1 Mega Byte (MB) = 1024 KiloBytes
1 GigaByte (GB) = 1024 MegaBytes
1 TeraByte (TB) = 1024 GigaBytes

4,294,967,296 Bytes = 4,194,304 KB
4,194,304 KB = 4,096 MB
4,096MB = 4GB

Some people don't understand it, but the "lost" memory is being used, just not for what you may think. Whether it is for a simple device such as a clock timer or you graphics card, all your hardware device drivers are using that memory. The memory is "lost" to the "usable" pool, which is defined as the memory that is not in use by hardware after all devices have been initialized. "Usable" memory is used for data and executable programs.

It is impossible for 32-Bit to exceed a 4GB address space, so the memory allocated to devices absolutely MUST fall within the 32-Bit range of 4GB. This is the the reason why on 64-Bit you could see the full 4GB, but you only get around 3.5 usable on 32-Bit. 64-Bit address is like this:

18,446,744,073,709,551,616 Bytes
18,014,398,509,481,984 KB
17,592,186,044,416 MB
17,179,869,184 GB
16,777,216 TB

As you can see, 64-Bit is fr, far larger than 32-Bit in terms of maximum addressable space. Heck, I don't even know how to pronounce the number in bytes! :o

FYI, if you're curious about it, HexaDecimal (Hex for short) is nothing more than a "human readable" form of Binary, with the numbers 0-9 and A-F representing the numbers from 0-9 and 10-15. It's easier to write down "0xFFFF" to represent 65535 instead of "1111 1111 1111 1111"

Hope that cleared things up for you...
 

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Do you have the BIOS manual? The website is not very helpful.

Try F2, Del, INS or other keys on boot to try. DO NOT CHANGE ANYTHING WITHOUT EXPERT ADVICE OR COUNSEL

Gurus - will a 945GC chip support PAE?


Only Intel 946 and above support PAE.
 

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Yes, you can. Go back to using Windows 7 64 Bit (or any other 64 Bit OS).

It all comes down to architecture, and hardware. Allow me to explain:

Computers are stupid machines, and "think" about numbers in Binary - 0's and 1's. What this means is the greater numbers of bits that can be processed at any given time, the greater the number that can be represented. Binary Numbers are read from right to left, with each successive digit representing a larger number. For example, the binary number "1111" is the number 15. It is calculated as follows:...

...As you can see, 64-Bit is fr, far larger than 32-Bit in terms of maximum addressable space. Heck, I don't even know how to pronounce the number in bytes! :o

FYI, if you're curious about it, HexaDecimal (Hex for short) is nothing more than a "human readable" form of Binary, with the numbers 0-9 and A-F representing the numbers from 0-9 and 10-15. It's easier to write down "0xFFFF" to represent 65535 instead of "1111 1111 1111 1111"

Hope that cleared things up for you...

That is seriously the best in depth explanation of the 32bit vs 64bit address issue.

Would you mind if I use this as an explanation to this question?
With references, of course.

I added to your table, hope you don't mind:
18,446,744,073,709,551,616 Bytes
18,014,398,509,481,984 KB
17,592,186,044,416 MB
17,179,869,184 GB
16,777,216 TB
16,384 PB (Petabyte)
1.6 EB (Exabyte)
Then ZB – Zettabyte
Then YB - Yottabyte
 
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Okey..???
Thank For ALL..........
.....
:D
thank you for helping me ....???
:)
 

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Venom 650 watt
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Transparant Case Acrylic
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Okey..???
Thank For ALL..........
.....
:D
thank you for helping me ....???
:)

I think it must have been something you said, or didn't say. :p
 

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Huuuffffttt........????

its true.!!!!!!

hahaha

Tq
;)
 
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It is impossible for 32-Bit to exceed a 4GB address space, so the memory allocated to devices absolutely MUST fall within the 32-Bit range of 4GB. This is the the reason why on 64-Bit you could see the full 4GB, but you only get around 3.5 usable on 32-Bit.
Peter,

Excellent write-up!

In case you were referring to 32-bit microprocessors, you might be interested in this tidbit:

32-bit - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Hence, a processor with 32-bit memory addresses can directly access 4 GB of byte-addressable memory. The external address and data buses are often wider than 32 bits but both of these are stored and manipulated internally in the processor as 32-bit quantities. For example, the Pentium Pro processor is a 32-bit machine, but the external address bus is 36 bits wide, and the external data bus is 64 bits wide.[1]
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1 + 1 = 10b,
7 + 7 = 16o,
a + b = 15h.
Yes, you can. Go back to using Windows 7 64 Bit (or any other 64 Bit OS).

It all comes down to architecture, and hardware. Allow me to explain:

Computers are stupid machines, and "think" about numbers in Binary - 0's and 1's. What this means is the greater numbers of bits that can be processed at any given time, the greater the number that can be represented. Binary Numbers are read from right to left, with each successive digit representing a larger number. For example, the binary number "1111" is the number 15. It is calculated as follows:...

...As you can see, 64-Bit is fr, far larger than 32-Bit in terms of maximum addressable space. Heck, I don't even know how to pronounce the number in bytes! :o

FYI, if you're curious about it, HexaDecimal (Hex for short) is nothing more than a "human readable" form of Binary, with the numbers 0-9 and A-F representing the numbers from 0-9 and 10-15. It's easier to write down "0xFFFF" to represent 65535 instead of "1111 1111 1111 1111"

Hope that cleared things up for you...

That is seriously the best in depth explanation of the 32bit vs 64bit address issue.

Would you mind if I use this as an explanation to this question?
With references, of course.

I added to your table, hope you don't mind:
18,446,744,073,709,551,616 Bytes
18,014,398,509,481,984 KB
17,592,186,044,416 MB
17,179,869,184 GB
16,777,216 TB
16,384 PB (Petabyte)
1.6 EB (Exabyte)
Then ZB – Zettabyte
Then YB - Yottabyte

By all means. If you have the time to do so, why not create a Tutorial about it?
 

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Virtual Machine
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Intel Corporation 440BX Desktop Reference Platform
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Kaspersky Total Security

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Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8from 1.6GHz Duo to i7
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
HP, Dell, Gateway, Toshiba - 4 laptops and 2 desktops
OS
Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
CPU
from 1.6GHz Duo to i7
Monitor(s) Displays
2x HP w2207
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5x HDD, 7x SSD, 12x Externals
Keyboard
with trackball - no mices
Mouse
Trackball mice
Internet Speed
DSL 6000
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