Startup Repair Not working after disk defragmentation

[Rokeugon]

The attrib didn't display any message? Great.
then:

del c:\boot\*.*

and confirm the delete.

Do a startup repair 3 times with reboot in between. Post results.
http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/681-startup-repair.html

Deletion was successful

1st. startup repair worked and continued to restart the machine

2nd. fail

3rd. fail

StartupRepairOffline
problem signature 01 : 6.1.7600.16385
problem signature 02 : 6.1.7600.16385
problem signature 03 : unkown
problem signature 04 : -1
problem signature 05 : ExternalMedia
problem signature 06 : 1
problem signature 07 :No OS Installed
local ID : 1033

 

[Rokeugon]

If I may.
What defrag program did you use?

the default windows Disk de-fragger

 

[gregrocker]

I notice there was no report back on whether you'd even begun the steps for Troubleshooting Windows 7 Failure to Start . We need to know exactly what steps you've already performed and the results.

If the OS is infected it may not repair hence why disinfection is the first step if you're reasonably sure you have no hardware issues.

Then the key repair attempt is to confirm that the 100mb System Reserved (preferred since you have it) is Partition Marked Active then run Startup Repair - Run 3 Separate Times.

If this will not start Win7 then everything else possible to be done is in Troubleshooting Windows 7 Failure to Start leading up to rescuing your files to do an HP Minimal Recovery if its offered on HP System Recovery.

Or you can go from having the worst install of Win7 possible (HP Factory Preinstall) to the very best by doing the vastly superior Clean Reinstall - Factory OEM Windows 7.

Either way the Factory Preinstall is simply not worth keeping and no tech enthusiast would run it since it is larded with bloatware and duplicate utilities which interfere with much better versions built into Win7.

One thing that might help us help you better is to see the disk configuration by taking a camera snap of Partition Wizard drive map and listings when you use it for the steps where it is suggested in the tutorial. Attach pics using paper clip icon in reply box.

 

[Rokeugon]

I notice there was no report back on whether you'd even begun the steps for Troubleshooting Windows 7 Failure to Start . We need to know exactly what steps you've already performed and the results.

If the OS is infected it may not repair hence why disinfection is the first step if you're reasonably sure you have no hardware issues.

Then the key repair attempt is to confirm that the 100mb System Reserved (preferred since you have it) is Partition Marked Active then run Startup Repair - Run 3 Separate Times.

If this will not start Win7 then everything else possible to be done is in Troubleshooting Windows 7 Failure to Start leading up to rescuing your files to do an HP Minimal Recovery if its offered on HP System Recovery.

Or you can go from having the worst install of Win7 possible (HP Factory Preinstall) to the very best by doing the vastly superior Clean Reinstall - Factory OEM Windows 7.

Either way the Factory Preinstall is simply not worth keeping and no tech enthusiast would run it since it is larded with bloatware and duplicate utilities which interfere with much better versions built into Win7.

One thing that might help us help you better is to see the disk configuration by taking a camera snap of Partition Wizard drive map and listings when you use it for the steps where it is suggested in the tutorial. Attach pics using paper clip icon in reply box.

hi there and thx for taking the time to come help out. il start of by saying if you dont mind a little bit more reading here is where all the help started first Startup Repair Not working after disk defragmentation - HP Support Forum - 4184114

now onto what happened.

i did a disk defrag 2 nights ago and the following morning (yesterday) it would not boot it would just go straight to startup recovery F11.

usually i can just skip to F8 and get to advance boot options and boot normally and fix the problem when i get into windows however F8 was not working so i could not boot (it would only take my to HP advanced recovery tool

the steps on the HP is what i done straight after - after doing the following commands

[B]Bootrec.exe
bcdedit /export C:\BCD_Backup
c:
cd boot
attrib bcd -s -h -r
ren c:\boot\bcd bcd.old
bootrec /RebuildBcd
bootrec /fixmbr
bootrec /fixboot[/B]

i restarted to see if it worked and well it never did - now i was faced with a new problem.. that being

\boot\bcd

Status: 0xc0000098

info: The windows boot configuration data rules does not contain a valid OS entry

i doubt my OS was infected (Maliciously) or anything like that.. i just dont understand how a defrag can do this.. also going on about these Recovery reinstalls that the OEM puts in - i heard that you need to preform a backup state when you first get it in order to revert to how it was when you first get it.

now ive not done this so something tells me il have to either call them up for backup CD's or il actually have to get a OS (witch i cannot do atm)

as for the 100mb system reserved it was marked active from the beginning i done nothing to mark it active and follow the steps in deleting the c:\boot\*.* and doing startup repair 3 times via recovery disc

its sad really i made a system restart before the defrag and it never showed up when i attempted to do it when this problem occurred

 

[gregrocker]

I already read all of that and wrote out for you exactly what I'd do. Yet once again there is no interaction with these steps at all, just restating your problem.

Have you tried System Restore from System Recovery Options ?

If you have the HP factory preinstall then you are just moving around the deck chairs on the Titanic. Since you're at the top resource on the web for doing a perfect install why not focus on having the best instead of the worst?

This is especially easy if you have HP Minimal Recovery which just takes minutes. You only need to uninstall the HP Connection manager bloatware to default to Win7's superior utility - instead of a dozen other of Win7's perfect functions which are ruined by duplicates in the HP factory preinstall.

 

[Rokeugon]

I already read all of that and wrote out for you exactly what I'd do. Yet once again there is no interaction with these steps at all, just restating your problem.

Have you tried System Restore from System Recovery Options ?

If you have the HP factory preinstall then you are just moving around the deck chairs on the Titanic. Since you're at the top resource on the web for doing a perfect install why not focus on having the best instead of the worst?

This is especially easy if you have HP Minimal Recovery which just takes minutes. You only need to uninstall the HP Connection manager bloatware to default to Win7's superior utility - instead of a dozen other of Win7's perfect functions which are ruined by duplicates in the HP factory preinstall.

yes ive tried but still does not show.. il only resort to a clean factory reinstall as a last resort. im going to try export and rebuild the bcd and if that does not work il check other volumes to see if there partition is active and give repair 3 separate times a try

 

[Rokeugon]

all right some good news at least

so i went to check the OS partition and it was not active so i activated it and went to start up repair

1st. time it worked

2nd. time it listed my OS and where it was installed and repaired worked again

3rd. time it failed as it gave me all of the above but problem 4 had a bunch of numbers and the last problem said "No Root Cause"

so decided to restart and see if it would go straight into boot , well it never gave me the bcd\boot\ windows screen with no OS installed - instead it took me straight to HP recover screen when start up repair was finished it gave me a new detailed report

problem4 - 1779185
and NoOsLoader

so another restart and tried to keep pressing F8 to get to advance boot menu but never worked - so i went to the recovery CD again and the OS was hidden again just like earlier so i went to check partitions again and marked it active

sadly startup repair failed those 3 times just giving me the same detailed report.

il try next sfc /scannow while the OS partition is active and the computer is restarted

any ideas on where to go from here on out ?

 

[gregrocker]

so i went to check the OS partition and it was not active so i activated it and went to start up repair

But that is not what I specifically said to do:

Then the key repair attempt is to confirm that the 100mb System Reserved (preferred since you have it) is Partition Marked Active then run Startup Repair - Run 3 Separate Times.

 

[Rokeugon]

so i went to check the OS partition and it was not active so i activated it and went to start up repair

But that is not what I specifically said to do:

Then the key repair attempt is to confirm that the 100mb System Reserved (preferred since you have it) is Partition Marked Active then run Startup Repair - Run 3 Separate Times.

ive said that before but! in reply to Kaktussoft when he asked me to check the 100mb system reserved if it was active and i said it was

:EDIT: also why its true you never said for me to do that i done it on my own accord to check - at least i know why my OS was hidden and hopefully not be dealt with that windows error screen again

 

[gregrocker]

I read that, too. But you said in your last post you moved the Active flag to Win7 partition. This can be done as a last resort, as well as deleting and recreating the System Reserved partition. But it may require copying into it the Windows 7 boot files.

Please understand that we specialize here in helping users get the best installs of WIn7, so it is not really motivating to help salvage a junk install. But you have the steps to try and we will try to help you complete them.

 

[Rokeugon]

I read that, too. But you said in your last post you moved the Active flag to Win7 partition. This can be done as a last resort, as well as deleting and recreating the System Reserved partition. But it may require copying into it the Windows 7 boot files.

Please understand that we specialize here in helping users get the best installs of WIn7, so it is not really motivating to help salvage a junk install. But you have the steps to try and we will try to help you complete them.

ah.. okey i understand and i apologize. just its taking an extremely long time and getting slightly frustrated with my self as on the past 5 forums im getting hardly anywhere to fix this problem - its was only until i posted here i was slightly heading in the right direction.

also that and the fact i need to keep switching the power cables out beetwen each PC because i only have 1 power cable and need to use that between the 2

also if it helps in anyway the default partition is still on the 100mb one and not the OS

just let me know ASAP what info you need and or what you want me to do

 

[gregrocker]

You have the worst install of WIn7 one can have, the HP Factory Preinstall.

It is not working.

Now is the perfect time to run HP Minimal Recovery or if it is not available do a Clean Reinstall - Factory OEM Windows 7.

This is all that I would do, since you asked.

Otherwise you have the steps for Troubleshooting Windows 7 Failure to Start

 

[Rokeugon]

You have the worst install of WIn7 one can have, the HP Factory Preinstall.

It is not working.

Now is the perfect time to run HP Minimal Recovery or if it is not available do a Clean Reinstall - Factory OEM Windows 7.

This is all that I would do, since you asked.

Otherwise you have the steps for Troubleshooting Windows 7 Failure to Start

true but i really dont want to return to te factory install state as i dont want to lose my progress hence i was wanting help to see if it could be resolved. if i cant somehow get this backup and working il might end up doing a factory reinstall. also while im thankful you took the time to do these walk through on step to take if these problems occur - what if something happens that is not stated in the walk through ? hence why most of whats been typed here by me is results of these articles / tutorial steps not going as planned and getting different outcomes

 

[Kaktussoft]

Is the 100MB marked active or the large win7 partition?

dir c:\Windows\system32\winload.exe
dir d:\Windows\system32\winload.exe

Is winload.exe on disk c or d? Did chkdsk/f command performed earlier detect and repair errors?

 

[Rokeugon]

Is the 100MB marked active or the large win7 partition?

dir c:\Windows\system32\winload.exe
dir d:\Windows\system32\winload.exe

Is winload.exe on disk c or d? Did chkdsk/f command performed earlier detect and repair errors?

chkdsk/f on c ran fine and i dunno i never really seen any text saying disk is clean or okey or healthy etc etc

however D was taking way to long so i stopped it and went to bed.

keep in mind tho when im checking the D disk il not be on to to get info so i could be away for hours on end. and yes im pretty sure the 100mb is still marked active by default. il post results if it is or not. and il also check where winload is brb 5-10 mins

 

[Kaktussoft]

bcdboot  d:\windows  /s  c:

What happens?

bcdedit /enum all

Do you see the win7 boot entry?

 

[Rokeugon]

bcdboot  d:\windows  /s  c:

What happens?

bcdedit /enum all

Do you see the win7 boot entry?

:EDIT: > 100mb was still active

previous results:

chkdsk on C: is all good and found no problems on there

dir C: did not find the file

D: was different and came up with this

Volume in D is OS
Volume serial number (security reasons)
Directory of d:\windows\system32
File not found

 

[Kaktussoft]

D:
cd  \Windows\system32
dir     [B][COLOR=red](you see many files... so in existing folder?)[/COLOR][/B]
dir  win*.*
attrib  win*.*

last 2 commands show files start with "win". What do you see?

 

[Rokeugon]

bcdboot  d:\windows  /s  c:

What happens?

bcdedit /enum all

Do you see the win7 boot entry?

Results:

1. BFSVC unable to load MUI file for bcd Strings <2>

2. yes for example

Windows boot manager
---------------------------
Indentifer {bootmgr}
Device Partition=C:
Path \bootmgr

etc etc and has another 2 columns of info etc

 

[Kaktussoft]

bcdboot  d:\windows  /s  c:

What happens?

bcdedit /enum all

Do you see the win7 boot entry?

Results:

1. BFSVC unable to load MUI file for bcd Strings <2>

2. yes for example

Windows boot manager
---------------------------
Indentifer {bootmgr}
Device Partition=C:
Path \bootmgr

etc etc and has another 2 columns of info etc

I'm interested in identifier {default} . Or better said: All items pointing to D: