Upgrading PC but not getting performance, what am i missing?

Kibawolf3

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Hello

First of all my pc specs are as follows

OS Version: Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate, Service Pack 1, 64 bit
Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3770K CPU @ 3.50GHz, Intel64 Family 6 Model 58 Stepping 9
Processor Count: 8
RAM: 16343 Mb
Graphics Card: AMD Radeon R9 200 Series, -1 Mb
Hard Drives: C: Total - 114120 MB, Free - 60272 MB; E: Total - 1907599 MB, Free - 1077415 MB; F: Total - 953866 MB, Free - 952976 MB; H: Total - 953869 MB, Free - 687052 MB;
Motherboard: Gigabyte Technology Co., Ltd., Z77P-D3
Antivirus: AVG Internet Security 2014, Updated and Enabled

The problem i am having is that even after spending over a thousand pounds on trying to get my pc up-to-date and able to run latest games easily, it still seems that something is lacking? :/

I am using a SS drive and the processor is watercooled, the fans are all running and theres plenty of hdd space.
the main issue is, for example, running Far cry 4 is high graphics settings, i get framerate issues and stuttering as if the computer is struggling, also the fans are working full whack when running a game and getting temperatures of 90c+ and up on my GPU!
My GPU is r9 290 OC edition so it have 2 fans and there is good air supply. I am using a LOGIK 36" TV in 1280x720 resolution. with no scaling involved.

What is it that going wrong here please? i cant run any good in good quality they are all bought genuine too. maybe my motherboard? or processor? i have tried overclocking but cpu and gpu a little bit but it caused crashes so they are both in their default modes.

any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you very much

Shawn
 

My Computer My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
OS
windows 7
CPU
Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3770K CPU @ 3.50GHz, Intel64 Family 6
Motherboard
Gigabyte Technology Co., Ltd., Z77P-D3
Memory
RAM: 16343 Mb
Graphics Card(s)
Graphics Card: AMD Radeon R9 200 Series, -1 Mb
Hard Drives
Hard Drives: C: Total - 114120 MB, Free - 60272 MB; E: Total - 1907599 MB, Free - 1077415 MB; F: Total - 953866 MB, Free - 952976 MB; H: Total - 953869 MB, Free - 687052 MB;
I assume this is primarily a gaming PC.

In the USA, your processor costs about twice what your video card costs.

What prompted you to split the money that way---rather than spending less on the processor and more on the video card?

Do you have any particular reason to believe anything is "wrong"? Or are you just unsatisfied with gaming performance?

Are you sure that temp is high for that video card?
 

My Computer My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Ignatz Special; 4 speed manual gearbox; factory air conditioning; one of one
OS
Windows 7 Home Premium SP1, 64-bit
CPU
Intel Skylake i5-6600K, not overclocked
Motherboard
AsRock Z170M Extreme 4, micro ATX
Memory
8 GB HyperX DDR4-2666 (2 x 4 GB)
Graphics Card(s)
none; graphics are integrated on CPU
Sound Card
onboard: Realtek ALC1150; external: USB Behringer UF0-202
Monitor(s) Displays
Dell S2340M 23 inch IPS
Screen Resolution
1600 x 900
Hard Drives
System: Crucial MX100 series SSD, 128 GB;
Data: Samsung Spinpoint 103SJ, 1 TB;
Backup: WD Caviar Green WD30EZRX-00D8PB0, 3 TB
PSU
Rosewill SilentNight 500 watt fanless, semi-modular
Case
Antec Solo II
Cooling
Noctua NH-U12S; Noctua F12 intake, Noctua S12A exhaust
Keyboard
Microsoft 200 6JH-00001 USB
Mouse
Dell or Microsoft optical wired; USB
Antivirus
Microsoft Security Essentials and Malwarebytes Premium
Browser
Pale Moon
Other Info
All fans PWM; speeds at idle: CPU circa 500 rpm; intake circa 600 rpm; exhaust circa 600 rpm; CPU temps 27 idle and 47 C load in a warm room (27 C/81 F) when running Intel Extreme Tuning Utility stress test.
hi thanks for the reply

i am just concerned about the performance i am getting so i am unsure if i should be getting a better processor or something similar to run the latest games in max settings
 

My Computer My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
OS
windows 7
CPU
Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3770K CPU @ 3.50GHz, Intel64 Family 6
Motherboard
Gigabyte Technology Co., Ltd., Z77P-D3
Memory
RAM: 16343 Mb
Graphics Card(s)
Graphics Card: AMD Radeon R9 200 Series, -1 Mb
Hard Drives
Hard Drives: C: Total - 114120 MB, Free - 60272 MB; E: Total - 1907599 MB, Free - 1077415 MB; F: Total - 953866 MB, Free - 952976 MB; H: Total - 953869 MB, Free - 687052 MB;
hi thanks for the reply

i am just concerned about the performance i am getting so i am unsure if i should be getting a better processor or something similar to run the latest games in max settings

What's the answer to the first question in my first post?

Have you researched what performance one should expect from that video card in the specific games you play at the specific settings you use?

For all we know, nothing is wrong. You've got a strong CPU and a lower-level video card. I have no idea how well that combination should perform on your games, but that's what you need to find out.

If nothing is wrong, the solution would be to turn back the clock and spend your money on a better video card, a cheaper processor, and less RAM.

If you don't have a time machine, the solution may be to upgrade the video card---not the CPU. As far as I know, that processor is strong enough to yank around recent games.
 

My Computer My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Ignatz Special; 4 speed manual gearbox; factory air conditioning; one of one
OS
Windows 7 Home Premium SP1, 64-bit
CPU
Intel Skylake i5-6600K, not overclocked
Motherboard
AsRock Z170M Extreme 4, micro ATX
Memory
8 GB HyperX DDR4-2666 (2 x 4 GB)
Graphics Card(s)
none; graphics are integrated on CPU
Sound Card
onboard: Realtek ALC1150; external: USB Behringer UF0-202
Monitor(s) Displays
Dell S2340M 23 inch IPS
Screen Resolution
1600 x 900
Hard Drives
System: Crucial MX100 series SSD, 128 GB;
Data: Samsung Spinpoint 103SJ, 1 TB;
Backup: WD Caviar Green WD30EZRX-00D8PB0, 3 TB
PSU
Rosewill SilentNight 500 watt fanless, semi-modular
Case
Antec Solo II
Cooling
Noctua NH-U12S; Noctua F12 intake, Noctua S12A exhaust
Keyboard
Microsoft 200 6JH-00001 USB
Mouse
Dell or Microsoft optical wired; USB
Antivirus
Microsoft Security Essentials and Malwarebytes Premium
Browser
Pale Moon
Other Info
All fans PWM; speeds at idle: CPU circa 500 rpm; intake circa 600 rpm; exhaust circa 600 rpm; CPU temps 27 idle and 47 C load in a warm room (27 C/81 F) when running Intel Extreme Tuning Utility stress test.
If it was my computer I would upgrade the video card.

Before doing that I would verify the power supply is up to the task.

Your system specs don't indicate what power supply you are using.
 

My Computer My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Home made Desktop
OS
Windows 10 Pro. 64/ version 1709 Windows 7 Pro/64
CPU
Intel i7-6800K @ 4.3
Motherboard
ASUS X-99 Deluxe II
Memory
Corsair Platinum 16 gig @2400
Graphics Card(s)
EVGA GTX 1070 OC
Monitor(s) Displays
Asus 27" LED LCD/VE278Q
Screen Resolution
1920-1080 or 1280-720 HDMI
Hard Drives
INTEL SSD 730-240 Gb Sata 3.0/
PSU
EVGA Platium 1200W
Case
Phanteks Luxe Tempered Glass 8 fans/ one radiator
Cooling
XSPC/ Water Cooled CPU
Keyboard
Das 4 Professional
Mouse
Logitech M705/MX Anywhere 2-S
Internet Speed
100 mbits
Antivirus
Microsoft Security Essentials/ Malwarebytes Premium 3.0/ SAS
Browser
I.E. 11 default/Firefox/ ISP Time Warner Cable/Spectrum
Other Info
LG BluRay Burner/
Sound system-KLipsch-THX/
Icy Dock ssd Hot Swap bays.
my PSU is
950W PC Modular Gaming Power Supply Unit With 80 Plus SLI / Crossfire PSU 950

reading both replies i didnt realise the gpu was that bad :s i bought it quite recently and for £270!

what graphics card should i upgrade to then?
 

My Computer My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
OS
windows 7
CPU
Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3770K CPU @ 3.50GHz, Intel64 Family 6
Motherboard
Gigabyte Technology Co., Ltd., Z77P-D3
Memory
RAM: 16343 Mb
Graphics Card(s)
Graphics Card: AMD Radeon R9 200 Series, -1 Mb
Hard Drives
Hard Drives: C: Total - 114120 MB, Free - 60272 MB; E: Total - 1907599 MB, Free - 1077415 MB; F: Total - 953866 MB, Free - 952976 MB; H: Total - 953869 MB, Free - 687052 MB;
my PSU is
950W PC Modular Gaming Power Supply Unit With 80 Plus SLI / Crossfire PSU 950

reading both replies i didnt realise the gpu was that bad :s i bought it quite recently and for £270!

what graphics card should i upgrade to then?

What brand and model PSU?

You don't need over 500 or 600 watts PSU for a PC with a powerful video card; even less for the video card you have.

If you've got a poor brand PSU, it probably can't put out anywhere near 950 watts anyway and that wouldn't be clean and reliable. You might want to think about replacing it if you get a more powerful video card.

That video card is about $160 in the USA. What's that, maybe 100 pounds?

I'd guess you bought this PC pre-assembled and they took advantage of you.
 

My Computer My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Ignatz Special; 4 speed manual gearbox; factory air conditioning; one of one
OS
Windows 7 Home Premium SP1, 64-bit
CPU
Intel Skylake i5-6600K, not overclocked
Motherboard
AsRock Z170M Extreme 4, micro ATX
Memory
8 GB HyperX DDR4-2666 (2 x 4 GB)
Graphics Card(s)
none; graphics are integrated on CPU
Sound Card
onboard: Realtek ALC1150; external: USB Behringer UF0-202
Monitor(s) Displays
Dell S2340M 23 inch IPS
Screen Resolution
1600 x 900
Hard Drives
System: Crucial MX100 series SSD, 128 GB;
Data: Samsung Spinpoint 103SJ, 1 TB;
Backup: WD Caviar Green WD30EZRX-00D8PB0, 3 TB
PSU
Rosewill SilentNight 500 watt fanless, semi-modular
Case
Antec Solo II
Cooling
Noctua NH-U12S; Noctua F12 intake, Noctua S12A exhaust
Keyboard
Microsoft 200 6JH-00001 USB
Mouse
Dell or Microsoft optical wired; USB
Antivirus
Microsoft Security Essentials and Malwarebytes Premium
Browser
Pale Moon
Other Info
All fans PWM; speeds at idle: CPU circa 500 rpm; intake circa 600 rpm; exhaust circa 600 rpm; CPU temps 27 idle and 47 C load in a warm room (27 C/81 F) when running Intel Extreme Tuning Utility stress test.
my PSU is
950W PC Modular Gaming Power Supply Unit With 80 Plus SLI / Crossfire PSU 950

reading both replies i didnt realise the gpu was that bad :s i bought it quite recently and for £270!

what graphics card should i upgrade to then?

What brand and model PSU?

You don't need over 500 or 600 watts PSU for a PC with a powerful video card; even less for the video card you have.

If you've got a poor brand PSU, it probably can't put out anywhere near 950 watts anyway and that wouldn't be clean and reliable. You might want to think about replacing it if you get a more powerful video card.

That video card is about $160 in the USA. What's that, maybe 100 pounds?

I'd guess you bought this PC pre-assembled and they took advantage of you.

heres is the parts i bought

Powercool X-Viper Modular 950W 80+ Bronze Active PFC Single Rail PSU with 14cm FDB Fan: Amazon.co.uk: Computers & Accessories

and just seen, the card i could of got cheaper :(
 

My Computer My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
OS
windows 7
CPU
Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3770K CPU @ 3.50GHz, Intel64 Family 6
Motherboard
Gigabyte Technology Co., Ltd., Z77P-D3
Memory
RAM: 16343 Mb
Graphics Card(s)
Graphics Card: AMD Radeon R9 200 Series, -1 Mb
Hard Drives
Hard Drives: C: Total - 114120 MB, Free - 60272 MB; E: Total - 1907599 MB, Free - 1077415 MB; F: Total - 953866 MB, Free - 952976 MB; H: Total - 953869 MB, Free - 687052 MB;
I'm not good at video card topics because I'm not really gaming on my PC but I don't really get your problem. By framerate drops you mean it drops to like 10fps from 30fps or drops to 26fps from 50fps? Because if the second one is the case then I don't think it's anything bad. And I think they sold you that GPU for way too much. Look at this benchmark and the price:
PassMark - Radeon R9 270 - Price performance comparison
You could get a geforce gtx 780 for a little bit more money and it would have 2x speed of your Radeon.
Besides an i7 3770k is overkill for gaming (so is your 16b RAM), you could get an i5 or even i3+gtx 780 for the same money. And i7 3770k is just third gen processor - altough I don't know when you upgraded - it's old for a completely new system.
 

My Computer My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Custom Built Desktop
OS
Windows 7 Home Premium x64
CPU
Intel Core I7 4790 @ 3.6ghz (4.0ghz turbo boost), stock
Motherboard
Asus z97m-plus, stock BIOS
Memory
8gb DDR3 Corsair Vengeance (2x4)
Graphics Card(s)
iGPU intel HD graphics 4600
Sound Card
Integrated Asus Crystal Sound
Screen Resolution
1920x1080
Hard Drives
WD Caviar Green 1tb,
Kingston v300 120gb
PSU
Cooler Master B600 - 600W
Case
Aerocool qs-200 White Lite
Cooling
Stock case cooler and stock CPU cooler
Antivirus
None
Browser
Chrome/IE
Powercool - How good or terrible are they? - jonnyGURU Forums

Above link is to some comments on your PSU brand. Not flattering. It may work OK for you. I personally would not use it, but it's up to you.

If you wanted to replace the power supply, here are 2 good units from your supplier. The cheaper one is more than enough for your current video card.

If you upgraded to a powerful video card, the second more expensive power supply below would be fine with it.

Seasonic S12G-450 450W 80+ Gold Certified PSU with Jap Caps and 12cm Silent BB Fan: Amazon.co.uk: Computers & Accessories

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Seasonic-S1...OLE&s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1416521483&sr=1-3
 

My Computer My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Ignatz Special; 4 speed manual gearbox; factory air conditioning; one of one
OS
Windows 7 Home Premium SP1, 64-bit
CPU
Intel Skylake i5-6600K, not overclocked
Motherboard
AsRock Z170M Extreme 4, micro ATX
Memory
8 GB HyperX DDR4-2666 (2 x 4 GB)
Graphics Card(s)
none; graphics are integrated on CPU
Sound Card
onboard: Realtek ALC1150; external: USB Behringer UF0-202
Monitor(s) Displays
Dell S2340M 23 inch IPS
Screen Resolution
1600 x 900
Hard Drives
System: Crucial MX100 series SSD, 128 GB;
Data: Samsung Spinpoint 103SJ, 1 TB;
Backup: WD Caviar Green WD30EZRX-00D8PB0, 3 TB
PSU
Rosewill SilentNight 500 watt fanless, semi-modular
Case
Antec Solo II
Cooling
Noctua NH-U12S; Noctua F12 intake, Noctua S12A exhaust
Keyboard
Microsoft 200 6JH-00001 USB
Mouse
Dell or Microsoft optical wired; USB
Antivirus
Microsoft Security Essentials and Malwarebytes Premium
Browser
Pale Moon
Other Info
All fans PWM; speeds at idle: CPU circa 500 rpm; intake circa 600 rpm; exhaust circa 600 rpm; CPU temps 27 idle and 47 C load in a warm room (27 C/81 F) when running Intel Extreme Tuning Utility stress test.
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