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[DavidE]

Has Mbam released a stable version thats newer than 2.04.1028 or is it still a beta ?

Thank you

2.1.4.1018 is now the official latest version (not a beta or Release Candidate).
See post #1 of this thread for details.

 

[MoxieMomma]

Has Mbam released a stable version thats newer than 2.04.1028 or is it still a beta ?

Thank you

2.1.4.1018 is the current, GA, release build, as explained here

As explained in that sticky topic, it is not YET available through the internal auto-updater.
That process is scheduled to begin this week and is likely to be throttled.
As of this moment, as likewise explained in that sticky, the new build is available only as a standalone installer from the Malwarebytes web site.

>>If you are already running 2.1.4.1018 RC3, then there is no need to update. It is the same build.

Thank you,

 

[DavidE]

See my responses as bolded

David:

I note that those pix from Macrium say "detected as a function of real-time protection". I wonder if that necessarily includes downloaded definition updates.

I don't know what this means. Are you asking if a new definition update could be detected as malware ?
As I understand it a new definition update can immediately detect malware that was not detected previously.
Isn't that what happened in 2013 when the bad update treated OS system files as malware (incorrectly) ?

Maybe the ideal config would be to auto-quarantine the "malware detected" classification and not quarantine the "non-malware detected", but that's not available in the controls.

Look in MBAM GUI > Settings > Detection and Protection
In Non-Malware Protection there are drop-down lists for PUP and PUM detections, with 3 choices.
Maybe you want to try the Warn user about detections choice ?
I have always used the treat detections as malware choice.

A 40 second window is so short as to be useless. No one can research anything in that time. It may as well be 5 seconds, to better avoid what might happen in that 35 second differential.

I agree, and this has been discussed a lot on the MBAM forum.

 

[ThrashZone]

I don't know how to clean mbam better than a total clean install of win-7 on both machines and issue default of realtime 5 minutes remain

 

[ignatzatsonic]

see response in blue:

I don't know what this means. Are you asking if a new definition update could be detected as malware ?
As I understand it a new definition update can immediately detect malware that was not detected previously.
Isn't that what happened in 2013 when the bad update treated OS system files as malware (incorrectly) ?


I was referring to the text shown in the pix you posted in post 836. Yes, I assume it means that a mere definition update can trigger "real time protection" immediately and that that is what happened in 2013. It just doesn't say so explicitly.


Look in MBAM GUI > Settings > Detection and Protection
In Non-Malware Protection there are drop-down lists for PUP and PUM detections, with 3 choices.
Maybe you want to try the Warn user about detections choice ?
I have always used the treat detections as malware choice.


I'm aware of those settings and have chosen warn for PUP and to treat PUM as malware. I do note that the "non-malware detected" warning in your post 836 apparently applies to both PUP and PUM, per the text shown.

I'm just trying to arrive at best practices, taking into account the possibility of disastrous malware versus the possibility of an unfortunate but not disastrous false positive. Not disastrous in the sense that I can presumably recover via an image. Barring new info, I'd rather be bricked and recover via image than be seriously infected.

 

[DavidE]

I'm aware of those settings and have chosen warn for PUP and to treat PUM as malware. I do note that the "non-malware detected" warning in your post 836 apparently applies to both PUP and PUM, per the text shown.

I'm just trying to arrive at best practices, taking into account the possibility of disastrous malware versus the possibility of an unfortunate but not disastrous false positive. Not disastrous in the sense that I can presumably recover via an image. Barring new info, I'd rather be bricked and recover via image than be seriously infected.

Hopefully if you have selected different choices for PUP and PUM, MBAM will handle PUP and PUM differently, as you chose.
I think the documentation just shows what can happen...and is not as detailed for all possibilities you are asking about ?

I totally agree on using a backup image for recovery, that's what i do, and that's how i recovered in 2013.
Unfortunately not everyone creates backups, and then learn a lesson when any disaster happens.

I too would like to know what is a best practice, and best settings.

A long time ago i tried to find "benign test malware files" so i could test them to see what would happen and make my choices accordingly.
I never found files to test all scenarios, so i make my best guess, and will change settings if anything ever happens and i learn i could handle it better.

 

[jonnyhillow]

Thanks for the responses gentleman .

 

[Seffrid]

I totally agree on using a backup image for recovery, that's what i do, and that's how i recovered in 2013.
Unfortunately not everyone creates backups, and then learn a lesson when any disaster happens.

While creating backup images is clearly desirable, it is not a practical option for everyone - especially for those of us with very little knowledge of computers and just running one or perhaps two computers for casual home use. The various strategies and guides on this forum are excellent, but very complex for those of us with little or no knowledge of such things. I must try and get some sort of grasp on it, however, as while malware may be the number one threat to the stability of our computers, these days the monthly Windows Updates come a close second!

 

[jonnyhillow]

I totally agree on using a backup image for recovery, that's what i do, and that's how i recovered in 2013.
Unfortunately not everyone creates backups, and then learn a lesson when any disaster happens.

While creating backup images is clearly desirable, it is not a practical option for everyone - especially for those of us with very little knowledge of computers and just running one or perhaps two computers for casual home use. The various strategies and guides on this forum are excellent, but very complex for those of us with little or no knowledge of such things. I must try and get some sort of grasp on it, however, as while malware may be the number one threat to the stability of our computers, these days the monthly Windows Updates come a close second!

Thats exactly what i have found also. Most are written by people with an amazing wealth of knowledge and even the most basic and simple things to them can be a real nightmare and total confusion for many others.

They are not as simple as some may think but they are very valuable for sure and much appreciated. Of course some authors make it considerably less confusing than others as well .


I should note that when i first got a computer and read a lot of the tutorials i was completely at a loss , it was just so hard to get through any of them for me .

Nowadays i know considerably more and it has become easier but there are more than a few that are still quite difficult.

On the other hand , without them i would just heave my computer through a window there's no question about that , imo no other site can match Seven forums tutorials , so please keep them and by all means add more if you wish .

 

[Layback Bear]

Seffrid and jonnyhillow.

Many members of this forum are limited to some degree of computer knowledge. That includes me. No one knows it all but some are closer than others. That is why we help each other to learn.

One of the reasons I spend time on this forum is to learn and gather more knowledge.
Using the Forums Tutorial is a great way to gather more knowledge.
Their is a mass of information about Back Ups in those tutorial and many members that will assist if need be.

Myself I'm here to help others and learn from others.

I do understand that at times it looks difficult to do something but on the most part with proper guidance it goes quite smoothly.

One just has to want to learn and follow instructions.
I'm also just a plain old home user with no degrees of any kind in computing that surly needs help from others to learn. Yes I have and do accept other members knowledge. It's offered freely to anybody who wants to have it.

Here is the main page for different backup methods. Take a gander through them when you get time and request help by starting a thread.

http://www.sevenforums.com/tutsearch.php?q=backups

I'm not a expert in backups but I know where I can find some.
Right here on the Seven Forum.
To be honest I'm not a expert in anything computing.

 

[ThrashZone]

Well I used mbam clean and redownloaded which the version is now 2.1.4.1018 and activated
The default installs update is 1 hour so that seems to be fixed although I deleted that task and made a new
The new update task did default to real time and 5 minutes to check for updates
But not a big deal I switched to daily and reoccur 1 hour which was preselected.

So far a bug that has always been annoying if you minimize mbam during a scan the scanner wasn't showing in the taskbar and disappeared in the action center,
The new version now stays listed in the taskbar

During a scan the adds on the bottom do not show on the dashboard screen but do show on the scanning screen so I suppose that's good enough.
But either way at least minimizing mbam during a scan you don't have to go into action center to reopen it.

As far as looks go :/ I don't really care that much one way or another I'll be happy without the old bugs if it updates daily with only one task it will be a vast improvement,
Also if it shows the successful update announcement which it has never done since 2.0... was released I'll be happy

 

[jonnyhillow]

Seffrid and jonnyhillow.

Many members of this forum are limited to some degree of computer knowledge. That includes me. No one knows it all but some are closer than others. That is why we help each other to learn.

One of the reasons I spend time on this forum is to learn and gather more knowledge.
Using the Forums Tutorial is a great way to gather more knowledge.
Their is a mass of information about Back Ups in those tutorial and many members that will assist if need be.

Myself I'm here to help others and learn from others.

I do understand that at times it looks difficult to do something but on the most part with proper guidance it goes quite smoothly.

One just has to want to learn and follow instructions.
I'm also just a plain old home user with no degrees of any kind in computing that surly needs help from others to learn. Yes I have and do accept other members knowledge. It's offered freely to anybody who wants to have it.

Here is the main page for different backup methods. Take a gander through them when you get time and request help by starting a thread.

http://www.sevenforums.com/tutsearch.php?q=backups

I'm not a expert in backups but I know where I can find some.
Right here on the Seven Forum.
To be honest I'm not a expert in anything computing.

You mean all those times that i was requesting somebody to help me because i was dealing with a traumatic computer related event i was dealing with somebody who also didn't have a clue ? Thats just great really great lol.:banghead::banghead:

 

[MoxieMomma]

Well I used mbam clean and redownloaded which the version is now 2.1.4.1018 and activated
The default installs update is 1 hour

Yes, and it will be randomized to +/- 15 minutes, to balance server load. If the setting is enabled in the scheduler to check for updates before scanning, then the scheduled scans will also run at times randomized to +/- 15 minutes. If one wants a scheduled scan to run at the exact scheduled time, then one needs to disable that setting.

So far a bug that has always been annoying if you minimize mbam during a scan the scanner wasn't showing in the taskbar and disappeared in the action center,
The new version now stays listed in the taskbar

That was not a bug. In version 2.0, the program minimized to the system tray by design. In version 2.1, the behavior has been changed to minimize to the task bar.

During a scan the adds on the bottom do not show on the dashboard screen but do show on the scanning screen so I suppose that's good enough.

Yes, the ads have been de-emphasized and are only present in the scanning window in this build.

But either way at least minimizing mbam during a scan you don't have to go into action center to reopen it.

Scheduled, clean scans will run silently from the system account, by design. Their logs will be found in the dashboard > history > application logs. Even with version 2.0, double-clicking the system tray icon would open the GUI.

As far as looks go :/ I don't really care that much one way or another I'll be happy without the old bugs if it updates daily with only one task it will be a vast improvement,

There will never be just one daily database update. To stay abreast of zero-hour and zero-day threats, the database will always be updated several times a day. If the user wishes to change scheduled update checks from the default, hourly setting to only once a day, that is certainly the user's choice. Doing so, however, will reduce real-time protection.

Also if it shows the successful update announcement which it has never done since 2.0... was released I'll be happy

Yes, that behavior was fixed in the current build. Thank you,

 

[Layback Bear]

Johnny I never said, posted or indicated in any fashion such thoughts.
From you post # 852

You mean all those times that i was requesting somebody to help me because i was dealing with a traumatic computer related event i was dealing with somebody who also didn't have a clue ? Thats just great really great lol.

Some members know more than others in areas of computing. That is not knocking any member. Some members know a lot in several fields. That is just the way it is on a forum or in the world.
I'm very sorry that is all you got out of my post #850.

We have over a quarter of a million members and like me they are all not experts nor do they have to be.

Most members are probably like me.
Read threads and help when they can or read threads so they can learn. It seem to be a very good method of helping and learning for millions.
It' that simple.

 

[jonnyhillow]

Layback Bear , let me ask you something my friend , did you really think that my post was serious ? I mean c, mon lol, what i wrote in my post is what i call a "JOKE" , nothing more lol.


You have always been an expert to me .

 

[Layback Bear]

Well I'm just one of the members that has learned a lot being on this forum. I'm not a expert in my mind because I have to much to learn.

Sorry I didn't take it as a joke. I must need more coffee.
The last 4 or 5 days I think my brain has been on vacation without my permission.
I did run out of Jack Daniels about a week ago. Maybe that is the problem.

 

[kado897]

Just got the auto-update of the premium version. So far so good. No problems on install. Just trying a hyper Scan.

 

[meebers]

Sorry if this has been posted here (86 pages). But was offered the latest vr of MWB this morning (W7) and after install, I poked around the Malware Exclusions tab and found this: Normal or ?? Do not see this on the previous version that has yet to be updated. (W10) Tx

 

[Phone Man]

Sorry if this has been posted here (86 pages). But was offered the latest vr of MWB this morning (W7) and after install, I poked around the Malware Exclusions tab and found this: Normal or ?? Do not see this on the previous version that has yet to be updated. (W10) Tx

That is not a normal entry. It had to be done by someone on your system probably when using the previous version.

Jim

 

[meebers]

Sorry if this has been posted here (86 pages). But was offered the latest vr of MWB this morning (W7) and after install, I poked around the Malware Exclusions tab and found this: Normal or ?? Do not see this on the previous version that has yet to be updated. (W10) Tx

That is not a normal entry. It had to be done by someone on your system probably when using the previous version.

Jim

I am the only one on this machine ?? don't remember having done this...but thanks for the conformation. Hope it was not from an "external" force. I will remove.

UPDATE: Items removed, doing another scan for the heck of it. Tx