Windows 10 Available on July 29

[groze]

profdlp

Windows 7 home has Dvd function built into windows media player. Windows 10 does not. There is a reason why but I don't think I allowed to say here but you can find out the reason on the web.

 

[Kari]

Wonder if there will be an option to do a clean install of 10....and will my old Asus P5GPL motherboard with a P4 & 2gb be able to handle it...would handle Win 8 but not Win 8.1.....so I went back to Win 7.

Windows 10 upgrade is and will be delivered through the Windows Update as an ESD file (Electronic Software Distribution and / or Electronic Software Delivery). See the tutorial at our sister site the Ten Forums for how to create an ISO image from the .esd file for clean installs: ESD to ISO - Create Bootable ISO from Windows 10 ESD File - Windows 10 Forums

 

[Kari]

profdlp

Windows 7 home has Dvd function built into windows media player. Windows 10 does not. There is a reason why but I don't think I allowed to say here but you can find out the reason on the web.

Windows 10 will have DVD support:

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[groze]

Wonder if there will be an option to do a clean install of 10....and will my old Asus P5GPL motherboard with a P4 & 2gb be able to handle it...would handle Win 8 but not Win 8.1.....so I went back to Win 7.

Windows 10 upgrade is and will be delivered through the Windows Update as an ESD file (Electronic Software Distribution and / or Electronic Software Delivery). See the tutorial at our sister site the Ten Forums for how to create an ISO image from the .esd file for clean installs: ESD to ISO - Create Bootable ISO from Windows 10 ESD File - Windows 10 Forums

Now I am confused

Microsoft Reveals Windows 10 Upgrade Path, Confirms Windows RT Won’t Be Receiving Windows 10

 

[z3r010]

Which bit is confusing you?

 

[groze]

I might be misunderstanding Kari. No offense meant Kari, but from what I am interpreting it sounds like Kari said the upgrade is only going to be available via windows updates. However, that site I quoted earlier said there would be an iso available.

 

[Kari]

I might be misunderstanding Kari. No offense meant Kari, but from what I am interpreting it sounds like Kari said the upgrade is only going to be available via windows updates. However, that site I quoted earlier said there would be an iso available.

The upgrade, if you accept the upgrade offer from the Microsoft, it will be given to you through Windows Update. Of course there will be ISO and DVD media also available, I was just telling how the upgrade is delivered to you if you let Windows Update upgrade your existing Windows 7 or 8 to 10.

My point is that it is really easy to grab the ESD file and then create your own ISO letting Windows Update to upgrade your machine, at the same time creating your own ISO for future installations without a need to download ISO separately.

 

[groze]

I might be misunderstanding Kari. No offense meant Kari, but from what I am interpreting it sounds like Kari said the upgrade is only going to be available via windows updates. However, that site I quoted earlier said there would be an iso available.

The upgrade, if you accept the upgrade offer from the Microsoft, it will be given to you through Windows Update. Of course there will be ISO and DVD media also available, I was just telling how the upgrade is delivered to you if you let Windows Update upgrade your existing Windows 7 or 8 to 10.

My point is that it is really easy to grab the ESD file and then create your own ISO letting Windows Update to upgrade your machine, at the same time creating your own ISO for future installations without a need to download ISO separately.

Thank you Kari

 

[xips]

Notables from Specifications and Requirements: Windows 10 Specifications - Microsoft

Feature deprecation section

• If you have Windows 7 Home Premium, Windows 7 Professional, Windows 7 Ultimate, Windows 8 Pro with Media Center, or Windows 8.1 Pro with Media Center and you install Windows 10, Windows Media Center will be removed.
• Watching DVDs requires separate playback software
• Windows 7 desktop gadgets will be removed as part of installing Windows 10.
• Windows 10 Home users will have updates from Windows Update automatically available. Windows 10 Pro and Windows 10 Enterprise users will have the ability to defer updates.
• Solitaire, Minesweeper, and Hearts Games that come pre-installed on Windows 7 will be removed as part of installing the Windows 10 upgrade. Microsoft has released our version of Solitaire and Minesweeper called the “Microsoft Solitaire Collection” and “Microsoft Minesweeper.”
• If you have a USB floppy drive, you will need to download the latest driver from Windows Update or from the manufacturer's website.
• If you have Windows Live Essentials installed on your system, the OneDrive application is removed and replaced with the inbox version of OneDrive.

 

[Indianatone]

Notables from Specifications and Requirements: Windows 10 Specifications - Microsoft

Feature deprecation section

• If you have Windows 7 Home Premium, Windows 7 Professional, Windows 7 Ultimate, Windows 8 Pro with Media Center, or Windows 8.1 Pro with Media Center and you install Windows 10, Windows Media Center will be removed.
• Watching DVDs requires separate playback software
• Windows 7 desktop gadgets will be removed as part of installing Windows 10.
• Windows 10 Home users will have updates from Windows Update automatically available. Windows 10 Pro and Windows 10 Enterprise users will have the ability to defer updates.
• Solitaire, Minesweeper, and Hearts Games that come pre-installed on Windows 7 will be removed as part of installing the Windows 10 upgrade. Microsoft has released our version of Solitaire and Minesweeper called the “Microsoft Solitaire Collection” and “Microsoft Minesweeper.”
• If you have a USB floppy drive, you will need to download the latest driver from Windows Update or from the manufacturer's website.
• If you have Windows Live Essentials installed on your system, the OneDrive application is removed and replaced with the inbox version of OneDrive.

And to me the first option is a deal breaker on at least 3 of my PC's that are hooked up to dumb TV's and Media Center runs the TV tuners. I know there are other options but they just work with no effort. I still have not seen a menu I like and also I hate windows 10 2 colour icons. The Amiga from 1990 had better looking icons.

 

[z3r010]

I'm going to have to send some serious time over the coming weeks trying to find some decent TV tuner softer to replace media center, everything I've tried so far has been pretty poor in comparison.

 

[Lady Fitzgerald]

I'm going to have to send some serious time over the coming weeks trying to find some decent TV tuner softer to replace media center, everything I've tried so far has been pretty poor in comparison.

If you do find something, please be sure to let us know about it. For me, losing WMC was the final nail in Win 10's coffin.

 

[Indianatone]

I'm going to have to send some serious time over the coming weeks trying to find some decent TV tuner softer to replace media center, everything I've tried so far has been pretty poor in comparison.

You are in a worse situation than us in the US as the HD British TV system is specfic to Britain and it is a smaller market. I think I am just going to leave my systems plodding along on 7 until something comes along. There is no need to rush, we have a year to test another system. I am in a quandry as I have my 7 & 8.1 systems set up as I like them and I am not too impressed with 10 so far. Maybe during the next year they will roll out some update packs that make it more appealing. Hell I would pay to have my look of Windows 7 Aero transferred to 10 with an AERO PACK with a key and for use on up to 5 computers for say $20 . Come on Microsoft give the punters what we want.

 

[ThrashZone]

Plenty of third party alternatives and themes to fill the gap if you don't mind paying for them
I'm personally not.

 

[Indianatone]

I'm going to have to send some serious time over the coming weeks trying to find some decent TV tuner softer to replace media center, everything I've tried so far has been pretty poor in comparison.

If you do find something, please be sure to let us know about it. For me, losing WMC was the final nail in Win 10's coffin.

It was getting that way with all the awful colors and icons and then they said no more media center and I said OK I have 5 more years in Seven and until 2023 on 2 licences of Windows 8.1 Pro with media center so I am fairly good............hopefully some sense may come back to Microsoft by them. They don't seem to realise the mobile device world sailed a few years ago and they were not on it. They have 0 market share, this is a company that bought a mobile phone maker (Nokia) and fired everyone who worked for them.................DUH.

 

[ThrashZone]

Isn't that what M$ does best
Buy companies to destroy ?

 

[Lady Fitzgerald]

Isn't that what M$ does best
Buy companies to destroy ?

That reminds me of AOL in the early days when it would buy BBSes and abandon them.

 

[themorus]

What would happen if say you upgraded from 7 to 10 and a few months down the road your hard drive fails and you have to reinstall, would you install 7 first with your original key or 10, but where would you get the key for 10?

 

[AddRAM]

You`d get a key for 10 if you buy it.

 

[Layback Bear]

To me it's very risky using a Windows 7 key to upgrade to Windows 10.

If their is a problem you could loose a perfectly good Windows 7 key.
It could get caught in WA WA land some where between 7 and 10.