Solved KB3035583 Reappeared After Being Hidden

[Lady Fitzgerald]

LadyFitz, here are screenshots window by window

The directions you and someone else gave in this thread did not specify which Administrative Templates to go to so how was I supposed to know which one.

I went to the Administrative Templates in Computer Configuration per your second Word doc. According to your and the other person's original directions, I was supposed to go into System to get to Windows Components yet even your second Word Doc shows them side by side, not one inside the other. What's with that? Still wondering why I got frustrated?

Screw System; I went directly to Windows Components, then opened up Windows Updates. Here is what I got:



Now tell me where the hell is "Turn off the upgrade to the latest version"? Still wondering why I got frustrated?

 

[cyclops]

Holy Crap! I am now wondering if one of the latest updates took it out? You see mine in the screen shots and we are running the same version OS.
Pardon me for asking a dumb question, but you are logged in as admin? I'm ducking my head now!

I am still looking at mine as I am going back and forth with you.

 

[cyclops]

I just counted all 17 available functions on mine and only count 16 available on yours. That sucks.

 

[UsernameIssues]

...wondering if one of the latest updates took it out?...

None of the recent updates took this* option out.

The more likely answer is:
Lady Fitzgerald did not install the update that added this* option.



*Turn off the upgrade to the latest version of Windows through Windows Update

 

[Lady Fitzgerald]

Holy Crap! I am now wondering if one of the latest updates took it out? You see mine in the screen shots and we are running the same version OS.
Pardon me for asking a dumb question, but you are logged in as admin? I'm ducking my head now!

I am still looking at mine as I am going back and forth with you.

Yes, I'm logged in as an administrator.

 

[Lady Fitzgerald]

...wondering if one of the latest updates took it out?...

None of the recent updates took this* option out.

The more likely answer is:
Lady Fitzgerald did not install the update that added this* option.



*Turn off the upgrade to the latest version of Windows through Windows Update

That's what I'm starting to think. I've been pretty religious about avoid the Win 10 related and spy updates.

 

[Callender]

Now tell me where the hell is "Turn off the upgrade to the latest version"? Still wondering why I got frustrated?

As far as I know it is KB3083710 that adds this feature to Group Policy Editor. It is a Windows Update Client Upgrade. Note: Does not work in Windows 7 Home Premium.

Update for Windows 7 for x64-based Systems (KB3083710) replaces the following updates:

Update for Windows 7 for x64-based Systems (KB2990214)
Update for Windows 7 for x64-based Systems (KB2990214)
Update for Windows 7 for x64-based Systems (KB3050265)
Update for Windows 7 for x64-based Systems (KB3065987)
Update for Windows 7 for x64-based Systems (KB3075851)
Update for Windows 7 for x64-based Systems (KB3083324)

Link - Use IE to visit:

https://catalog.update.microsoft.com/v7/site/Search.aspx?q=KB3083710

 

[cyclops]

This might be the answer. Check to see if update KB3065987 is installed. Supposedly the one that installs that function.

Group Policy

Microsoft has released new updates to enable you to block upgrades to Windows 10 through Windows Update. These updates install a new Group Policy Object. Computers that have this Group Policy Object enabled will never detect, download, or install an upgrade to the latest version of Windows.

To obtain and install these updates, go to the following Microsoft Knowledge Base articles:

3065987 Windows Update Client for Windows 7 and Windows Server 2008 R2: July 2015
3065988 Windows Update Client for Windows 8.1 and Windows Server 2012 R2: July 2015
To configure this Group Policy Object by using Group Policy, the following conditions apply:

• The appropriate update must be installed.
• You must use the updated WindowsUpdate.admx file by copying the file from the editing policy location.

Computer Configuration

To block the upgrade by using Computer Configuration, follow these steps

1. Click Computer Configuration.
2. Click Policies.
3. Click Administrative Templates.
4. Click Windows Components.
5. Click Windows Update.
6. Double-click Turn off the upgrade to the latest version of Windows through Windows Update.
7. Click Enable.

Policy path: Computer Configuration / Administrative Templates / Windows Components / Windows Update Policy
Setting: Turn off the upgrade to the latest version of Windows through Windows Update

 

[Lady Fitzgerald]

Now tell me where the hell is "Turn off the upgrade to the latest version"? Still wondering why I got frustrated?

As far as I know it is KB3083710 that adds this feature to Group Policy Editor. It is a Windows Update Client Upgrade. Note: Does not work in Windows 7 Home Premium.

Update for Windows 7 for x64-based Systems (KB3083710) replaces the following updates:

Update for Windows 7 for x64-based Systems (KB2990214)
Update for Windows 7 for x64-based Systems (KB2990214)
Update for Windows 7 for x64-based Systems (KB3050265)
Update for Windows 7 for x64-based Systems (KB3065987)
Update for Windows 7 for x64-based Systems (KB3075851)
Update for Windows 7 for x64-based Systems (KB3083324)

Link - Use IE to visit:

https://catalog.update.microsoft.com/v7/site/Search.aspx?q=KB3083710

Yup, I hid that one.

 

[cyclops]

I have KB3065987 and do not have KB3083710, not sure which way to say is better.

 

[Lady Fitzgerald]

This might be the answer. Check to see if update KB3065987 is installed. Supposedly the one that installs that function.

Group Policy

Microsoft has released new updates to enable you to block upgrades to Windows 10 through Windows Update. These updates install a new Group Policy Object. Computers that have this Group Policy Object enabled will never detect, download, or install an upgrade to the latest version of Windows.

To obtain and install these updates, go to the following Microsoft Knowledge Base articles:

3065987 Windows Update Client for Windows 7 and Windows Server 2008 R2: July 2015
3065988 Windows Update Client for Windows 8.1 and Windows Server 2012 R2: July 2015
To configure this Group Policy Object by using Group Policy, the following conditions apply:

• The appropriate update must be installed.
• You must use the updated WindowsUpdate.admx file by copying the file from the editing policy location.

Computer Configuration

To block the upgrade by using Computer Configuration, follow these steps

1. Click Computer Configuration.
2. Click Policies.
3. Click Administrative Templates.
4. Click Windows Components.
5. Click Windows Update.
6. Double-click Turn off the upgrade to the latest version of Windows through Windows Update.
7. Click Enable.

Policy path: Computer Configuration / Administrative Templates / Windows Components / Windows Update Policy
Setting: Turn off the upgrade to the latest version of Windows through Windows Update

That one is also hidden. I have no desire install the damned thing.

 

[Callender]

I hid it too! It's of no use on my Windows 7 HP.

Note:

Update for Windows 7 for x64-based Systems (KB3083710) replaces the following updates:

Update for Windows 7 for x64-based Systems (KB2990214)
Update for Windows 7 for x64-based Systems (KB2990214)
Update for Windows 7 for x64-based Systems (KB3050265)
Update for Windows 7 for x64-based Systems (KB3065987)
Update for Windows 7 for x64-based Systems (KB3075851)
Update for Windows 7 for x64-based Systems (KB3083324)

Any update below the one shown in bold type "should" add Windows 10 upgrade blocking to group policy editor. I say should - because I cannot test on my own machine.

 

[cyclops]

Callender, have you looked into this?
Windows registry

Important Follow the steps in this section carefully. Serious problems might occur if you modify the registry incorrectly. Before you modify it, back up the registry for restoration in case problems occur.

To suppress this offer through the registry, specify the following registry value:

Subkey: HKLM\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\WindowsUpdate
DWORD value: DisableOSUpgrade = 1

 

[UsernameIssues]

Now tell me where the hell is "Turn off the upgrade to the latest version"? Still wondering why I got frustrated?

As far as I know it is KB3083710 that adds this feature to Group Policy Editor. It is a Windows Update Client Upgrade. Note: Does not work in Windows 7 Home Premium.

Update for Windows 7 for x64-based Systems (KB3083710) replaces the following updates:

Update for Windows 7 for x64-based Systems (KB2990214)
Update for Windows 7 for x64-based Systems (KB2990214)
Update for Windows 7 for x64-based Systems (KB3050265)
Update for Windows 7 for x64-based Systems (KB3065987)
Update for Windows 7 for x64-based Systems (KB3075851)
Update for Windows 7 for x64-based Systems (KB3083324)

Link - Use IE to visit:

https://catalog.update.microsoft.com/v7/site/Search.aspx?q=KB3083710

KB3083710 is the October update to the Windows Update client. The ability to use this GPO setting was added in July 2015 https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3065987

That GPO setting has been in all subsequent updates to the Windows Update client. Here is an install with virtually no other updates applied:



When you enable that option, it changes one thing in the registry:

HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Group Policy Objects\{8BBD6212-1487-43B7-84C9-53FB0CDF551B}Machine\Software\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\WindowsUpdate\DisableOSUpgrade

As you noted, this does not help on certain versions of Windows. However, it is not because those versions lack the user interface (gpedit) to make the changes to the registry. It is because some mechanism (process/app) is missing from "lower versions" of Windows. Some (all?) policy settings under the Group Policy Objects structure are ignored when that mechanism is missing.

That is why I made post #18 in this tread. It uses the same "DisableOSUpgrade" value name, but in an area that all versions of Windows should obey.

 

[UsernameIssues]

Process Monitor only showed one area of the registry being changed.



I find it odd that a change to the Computer Configuration policies was written to the HKCU hive. After logging off and logging back in, that Group Policy Objects key quoted in my last post is no longer under the HKCU hive*. I guess that some process applied it somewhere in the HKLM hive. Fortunately for me, I'm not interested in this enough to spend any more time on it

*or maybe I'm too tired to see straight.

 

[cyclops]

UsernameIssues, is Sysinternals a free app?

I'm getting tired from this too!

 

[UsernameIssues]

As far as I know, all of these are free:
https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/bb795533.aspx

Sysinternals was purchased by Microsoft years ago... but kept the name Sysinternals.

 

[cyclops]

Thank you. More tools, I like tools.

 

[cyclops]

UsernameIssues, thank you for sharing that. Got the whole suite. I was also able to find a download for the entire administrators manual for those tools. Super stuff.

I am wondering what happened to LadyFitz?

http://www.sevenforums.com/member.php?u=202665

 

[Callender]

Callender, have you looked into this?
Windows registry

Important Follow the steps in this section carefully. Serious problems might occur if you modify the registry incorrectly. Before you modify it, back up the registry for restoration in case problems occur.

To suppress this offer through the registry, specify the following registry value:

Subkey: HKLM\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\WindowsUpdate
DWORD value: DisableOSUpgrade = 1

I am aware of the option to edit the registry but since I have not installed any Windows 10 upgrade updates I have no need to create that entry.