You will upgrade to Windows 10: Inside Microsoft's strong-arm upgrade

[Borg 386]

Seriously, I do not understand why MS is doing what they are doing. Does their survival depend on how many people they get to run 10? Are they just being draconian because they can be? There's something obviously going on behind the scenes, be it because of potential data gathering revenue or something else that will transpire down the road perhaps.

But MS, you should really think hard about your strong-arm tactics. When you try to sneak in an update any way possible, of course people are going to suspect something and talk. Even if you have nothing to hide, it is inevitable people will wonder what's going on. How can you expect people NOT to wonder with the list of tactics you've used in the past months?

A simple question....why the cloak & dagger about the contents of updates as well as the force fed update to 10? Why not a plain & simple choice of "No Thanks" or "Yes?"

I have 10 on one of my partitions as well as 8.1, and although I use 10 occasionally, I prefer to use 7, that's my choice. Let me have that choice. I paid for 7, let me choose to keep it if I want.

You will upgrade to Windows 10: Inside Microsoft's strong-arm upgrade tactics | PCWorld

 

[Cr00zng]

Resistance is futile, it seems...

I still wonder... at the time W7 was installed, I've agreed to the EULA then. Now, five-six years later MS changes the EULA and have no choice but to agree to the new one. Not only that, MS keeps bombarding my PC with get W10 now on a way that really resembles malware. Wonder how long before hackers start to use the built-in "get me now or else" subsystem in Windows for spreading their malware?

Yes, Linux can be installed on the same PC, but that's not really an option for me. At least not for the time being...

 

[Wandering one]

Would be interesting to see how much tax write offs they get as a side benefit for the "generous" give away program.
Art.

 

[ThrashZone]

Yep if it gets too nasty people will just turn off the update system all together
That will be a sad day indeed :/

 

[whs]

This is the setting you need and then you can control it.

 

[ThrashZone]

Not so sure about that,
I've not downloaded any win-10 related updates and I still came up with this listing

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\GWX\Reservation

 

[whs]

This is not a win10 download per se. There was a posting earlier on how to avoid that.

 

[ThrashZone]

I thought that was related to local user not machine :/

I have no idea where the BT folder would be but I'm very sure no updates have slipped though
Anything that slipped by was included in some other update.

 

[lffoar]

Seriously, I do not understand why MS is doing what they are doing. Does their survival depend on how many people they get to run 10? Are they just being draconian because they can be? There's something obviously going on behind the scenes, be it because of potential data gathering revenue or something else that will transpire down the road perhaps.

But MS, you should really think hard about your strong-arm tactics. When you try to sneak in an update any way possible, of course people are going to suspect something and talk. Even if you have nothing to hide, it is inevitable people will wonder what's going on. How can you expect people NOT to wonder with the list of tactics you've used in the past months?

A simple question....why the cloak & dagger about the contents of updates as well as the force fed update to 10? Why not a plain & simple choice of "No Thanks" or "Yes?"

I have 10 on one of my partitions as well as 8.1, and although I use 10 occasionally, I prefer to use 7, that's my choice. Let me have that choice. I paid for 7, let me choose to keep it if I want.

You will upgrade to Windows 10: Inside Microsoft's strong-arm upgrade tactics | PCWorld

 

[whs]

There is no need to stay offline with Windows7. You just have to control the updates. But using Linux for on-line activities is a godd idea for safety reasons.

 

[ThrashZone]

i am very close to using windows 7 for an offline pc and live linux for internet use, and the more those offspring of unmarried mothers called microsoft try to force me to upgrade to win 10 :mad2: the sooner my plan will become reality.
question - why are those offspring of unmarried mothers called microsoftmad2 doing their damnedest to force me to upgrade to win 10 :mad2: ?

why are they so interested in collecting my data ? :mad2:

You seem like an interesting fellow to stalk Oops I mean follow to me :roflmao:

 

[lehnerus2000]

Not so sure about that,
I've not downloaded any win-10 related updates and I still came up with this listing

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\GWX\Reservation

I thought that was related to local user not machine :/

I have no idea where the BT folder would be but I'm very sure no updates have slipped though
Anything that slipped by was included in some other update.

Didn't work for me either.
I discovered a hidden BT folder on my OS partition (a few weeks ago) on my PC.

I have the Windows Update service totally disabled now.

Once people have posted the info about the latest MS malware updates, I re-enable the Windows Update service and download any real updates that have been released.

Despite the claims of the W10 fan boys and shills (on TenForums, for example) it is fairly obvious that MS is collecting more data than they claim and it is selling it to the highest bidder.

That's why they are trying to force everyone to use W10 and why they released a telemetry update for an OS they claim:

• They don't support anymore
• Is so poorly written that it is too dangerous to use anymore

 

[Lady Fitzgerald]

You seem like an interesting fellow to stalk Oops I mean follow to me :roflmao:[/QUOTE]

fellow?

FELLOW?????? :mad2::mad2:

MY NAME IS EMMA :mad2: [/QUOTE]

I feel your pain; I run into the same misgendering problem, too, especially on another forum. In all fairness, though, your avatar is a wee bit misleading.

 

[whs]

The MS claims are really ridiculous. We better not listen to them.

 

[Lady Fitzgerald]

and thats another thing that really gets on my tits, i, I, PAY FOR MY INTERNET USAGE, ON PAYG, NOT THE NSA, NOT MICROSOFT, ME, MUGGINS, MOI, and i dont want to jeremy hunt eating away at my limited date just because they have gotten too big for their ****ing boots. :mad2::mad2::mad2:

microsoft can kiss my piles!!!!

Ok, that was a lovely image.

 

[whs]

Emma, you are pretty outspoken and that's OK. Unfortunately we cannot change things and have to live with what they offer - or abandon ship.

 

[whs]

30+ years in operating systems development gave me a more realistic view of the power users have - it is nil.

 

[FerchogtX]

Yep if it gets too nasty people will just turn off the update system all together
That will be a sad day indeed :/

That already happened, all my systems (2) have WU completely disabled, through options and the service itself. SevenForums is my place to check for critical patches. I don't need WU at all... MS has a black history with bricked systems, BSODs and Black SoDs, I don't trust them anymore since those days, less now with this malware like tactics. (This includes a few W10 systems I've tweaked for some friends, WU service disabled completely because of annoyances and forced updates)

Full control of your system is a priority, if you wanna achieve that, you take control over services and disable crap you dont need, and WU is one of those...

So, no GWX for me, and I live more happy without the OS telling me when to install stuff, I decide what to do, not the PC, not M$.

Ah... if someone wants to try something as good as Windows 7, try Linux Mint KDE, it's fast (for systems that already run Windows 7 for example) uses less RAM, has a good catalog in software, easy to configure and pleasant to the eye (no fisher price opaque plain UI). That is my next move if W7 "expires" on 2020 and M$ is still playing this nasty game...

 

[scr]

I am the power of one. I will not be assimilated nor will I be upgraded. I will not bow down before the self appointed almighty powerful MS no matter the forces they shall bring against my stalwart defenses. I will not compromise. I will resist even if I am the last user standing. I will not be defeated.

Wow! That gave me a headache... . I think I need a nap now.

 

[Berkey]

There must be something behind this big push. What's at the end of the tunnel when the one year mark is met?I can't imagine the the purchase of apps is what's going to bring home the bacon, but I could be wrong. Or perhaps security fixes become free, but roll-ups and other updates come with a fee? Not expecting that, but wouldn't be surprised. Data mining and selling to advertising? (remember they only collect to better improve windows) That's my guess as its big money. The more devices that provide data, the more money to be had selling it. Again, this could be wrong, but I don't see giving free OS's away without some catch. I havent' seen the numbers for the app store, but again, I can't imagine they are banking on it being the the biggest money maker. Corporate support and businesses that pay for IT services are another revenue source, but then again, it always has been, so it's not like they're gaining new customers there.

They more they push, they more I wonder