I upgraded to win 10 on the free offer now I want to reinstall my Win7

[eaglepi]

As I said in the subject line I took advantage of the free Win 10 upgrade and keep running into a lot of different problems. I decided today rather than waste the little extra time trying to find out what is causing all these issues I would rather start over from a very clean disk and install my Win 7.
I always install my OS on one drive and keep all my storage on other drives.

I saw a tutorial on here a long while ago that showed how to do a fresh install so that before I boot to my Win 7 disk there is nothing on that drive at all. I know it was a different process than putting the Win7 disk in and format the drive that way and also delete the partition.

There was a complete tutorial from a member of this forum, I forget his name but he had a alien head as his avatar.

Could someone point me to that tutorial that he made.

Thanks

 

[pbcopter]

I think this is what you want.

Windows 7 Clean Install

 

[Megahertz07]

As you have a very good computer, I suggest you to buy a 128G SSD for the OS and use the HDD for data.
You have no idea what a SSD can do for your your computer. It will cost you about US$50.
I have this one. So far so good. PNY CS1311 2.5" 120GB SATA III TLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) SSD7CS1311-120-RB-Newegg.com

 

[eaglepi]

I think this is what you want.

Windows 7 Clean Install

Thank you very much

 

[eaglepi]

As you have a very good computer, I suggest you to buy a 128G SSD for the OS and use the HDD for data.
You have no idea what a SSD can do for your your computer. It will cost you about US$50.
I have this one. So far so good. PNY CS1311 2.5" 120GB SATA III TLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) SSD7CS1311-120-RB-Newegg.com

I might take a look and do that I was thinking about getting a new graphics card also it is pretty old but does what I need. Thanks for the tips Is there somewhere I can read about the difference between SSD and regular HD's I know the SSD is faster how I like to have more space than I really need how would this one be for the $$ $119 PNY CS1311 480GB 2.5” SATA III Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) - (SSD7CS1311-480-RB)

 

[Megahertz07]

Remember: Unplug all other HDD, leaving only the one that is going to have Win 7 installed.

When you buy the SSD use Kari tutorial to move the Users folder to the HDD.
User Folders - Change Default Location
User Profiles - Relocate to another Partition or Disk

 

[ignatzatsonic]

Is there somewhere I can read about the difference between SSD and regular HD's I know the SSD is faster how I like to have more space than I really need..............

There are few practical differences that need to concern you.

The typical idea is to put Windows and applications on the SSD and then put personal data on a standard spinning drive---assuming you have room for 2 internal drives and cannot afford to buy a single SSD large enough for Windows, applications, and data.

You've got a desktop PC, so you presumably have plenty of room for drives.

You aren't likely to notice the difference in speed from one SSD to another.

Concentrate on:

1: how much capacity you need. Entirely possible 128 GB is enough if you keep data on a separate drive and don't have a hundred applications installed.

2: vendor return policy if it happens to fail in the first 30 days.

3: price

4: manufacturer's warranty and customer service reputation if you have problems after the first 30 days.

5: try to find a review of any prospective purchase to learn if there are any significant issues with that brand or model, but don't get bogged down in speed claims.

You can find SSDs that fit into a slot like a graphics card, but most of us still use the standard form that mounts in a bay like a standard hard drive.

 

[Megahertz07]

SSD's are fast but expensive per GB. As the prices are high but getting cheaper every day, you should buy a as small as it fits all you need.
On a computer that has only one SATA slot, you have to buy a SSD that will hold the OS+Programs+Data.
On a computer that has more than one SATA slot (like a desktop) you can buy a small SSD to hold the OS and programs (my SSD has 2 partitions: one 80G for Windows and one 40 G for Linux and there is still a lot of unused space) and use the slow HDD for data.
Boot time for SSD is about 10 to 30 sec and opens programs on blink of an eye.
As you have plenty HDD space, you don't need a SSD bigger than 128 G.
Look for this specs:
Max Sequential Read > 450
Max Sequential Write > 300
4KB Random Read > 70 k IOPS
4KB Random Write > 70 k IOPS

 

[eaglepi]

Been very busy and haven't been able to come here often. I wanted to thank all of you who gave me suggestions, I will be looking at everything all of you suggested soon and will reply when I do

 

[eaglepi]

Remember: Unplug all other HDD, leaving only the one that is going to have Win 7 installed.

When you buy the SSD use Kari tutorial to move the Users folder to the HDD.
User Folders - Change Default Location
User Profiles - Relocate to another Partition or Disk

My goal in going back to Win 7 from Win 10 so I wanted to make sure everything is deleted from the drive I plan to put my OS on. As I explained earlier I use one drive for OS and programs. I have 4 2 TB drives dedicated to storage only and I have a back up system that is redundant times 3, I have the main drive when all my saved files and then I have a exact copy on 2 different drives. I already know it is overkill but it is what makes me feel comfortable, I would have to have all 4 drives fail at the same time to lose everything, once again OVERKILL I know but It is what I want.

So couldn't I install the new SSD drive and after setting it up ( I have no idea what is needed to do ) when that is done couldn't I just put my Win 7 disk drive in and let it boot from disk and install a fresh copy of Win 7, with nothing on the drive how much cleaner could it be? Can this bee done ? remember all my folder's that are storage or things I save are on my 4 storage drives, the new SSD would only be for the OS. So I am thinking that if I put the Win7 disk in and boot wouldn't Win 7 install all the OS on the SSD and then as I add my programs to the SDD wouldn't that give me exactly what I want a clean ( very clean) install of my Windows 7

I realize I overkill everything but I want to do it that way, with that in mind would what I explained above work the way I am wanting to have my OS & programs drive

Sorry for the rambling on but that is how I type I type as I think and it can get confusing for the people who don't think like I do.

 

[eaglepi]

SSD's are fast but expensive per GB. As the prices are high but getting cheaper every day, you should buy a as small as it fits all you need.
On a computer that has only one SATA slot, you have to buy a SSD that will hold the OS+Programs+Data.
On a computer that has more than one SATA slot (like a desktop) you can buy a small SSD to hold the OS and programs (my SSD has 2 partitions: one 80G for Windows and one 40 G for Linux and there is still a lot of unused space) and use the slow HDD for data.
Boot time for SSD is about 10 to 30 sec and opens programs on blink of an eye.
As you have plenty HDD space, you don't need a SSD bigger than 128 G.
Look for this specs:
Max Sequential Read > 450
Max Sequential Write > 300
4KB Random Read > 70 k IOPS
4KB Random Write > 70 k IOPS

I have a lot of software like Adobe CS5 as one will I be better off getting a bigger drive to be save, remember I always overkill. Money isn't a problem for me so when I want a 500 GB and some say "why" you only need a 128GB so with that in mind, would I be in good shape with a 500GB SSD for my OS and programs9 Overkill I know ) but would it be a good system thanks in advance for all your help

 

[ignatzatsonic]

So couldn't I install the new SSD drive and after setting it up ( I have no idea what is needed to do ) when that is done couldn't I just put my Win 7 disk drive in and let it boot from disk and install a fresh copy of Win 7, with nothing on the drive how much cleaner could it be? .................. So I am thinking that if I put the Win7 disk in and boot wouldn't Win 7 install all the OS on the SSD and then as I add my programs to the SDD wouldn't that give me exactly what I want a clean ( very clean) install of my Windows 7

Yes. That's what a clean install is.

When you install Windows 7 on the SSD, disconnect ALL, I SAY ALL other drives.

That way, Windows is forced to install all of it's components on the SSD. If you don't do that, Windows might take a notion to install some of it's files on some other drive.

Windows fully updated might take 30 to 40 GB. Make an estimate of how much space your applications take.

Buy as big an SSD as you think you can afford as long as you think you might eventually use most of the space. You should try to keep it no more than maybe 85 or 90 percent full.

1 TB SSDs are selling for as low as $230 or so---maybe 3 or 4 times the price of a 1 TB HDD.

Don't worry much about anything special in the way of SSD "setup". The only thing semi-special about them is that they should not be defragmented and they should be aligned properly. You can confirm both of those things after installation.

And then run a benchmark on it to confirm that it is performing roughly as expected.

 

[eaglepi]

Yes I always disconnect the other drives when I install a OS, sorry for not including that in my other posts.

Thanks again for the advice, I'm thinking about the SSD size and I won't know which one I go for until I buy it. I will come back and update you.

 

[Megahertz07]

As you have a disk only for OS and programs, see how much space it's required, leaving out the \Users folder.

This is my disks tree: http://www.sevenforums.com/attachme...23-installing-ssd-dell-xps-8700-a-my_tree.jpg

I also have a internal big and bootable HDD that I connect once a week to make my backup.

 

[eaglepi]

I bought a 500GB SSD, that should be plenty