I Want to Keep Windows 7 Forever

I'd love to be important enough to be spied upon :zip:
One can also cover the laptop webcam - unless one uses any one of many utilities that will turn cam off and leave it off. This thread is so much fun, I learn a lot from all sides of the issue.
 

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Windows 7 Professional 64-bitDesktop i5; Acers i5 & i7desktop 16GB; 1 Acer 8GB & 1 Acer 16GB
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Antec desktop; Acer Aspire laptops
OS
Windows 7 Professional 64-bit
CPU
Desktop i5; Acers i5 & i7
Memory
desktop 16GB; 1 Acer 8GB & 1 Acer 16GB
Hard Drives
1TB split into 2 equal partitions [OS and data] usable by RJS
Internet Speed
AT&T DSL
Browser
FF, GChrome, msIE
Other Info
Windows 7 Firewall, Emsisoft AM/AV, MSE [scan-only], SpywareBlaster, Ruiware/BillP combine
You'd be surprised how many webcams are compromised ...
 

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My Computers My Computers

  • At a glance

    Windows 11 Pro x64 [Latest Release and Releas...Ryzen 9 5950X, 3.8 - 5.2 MHz64GB [2 x 32GB] DDR4 3200MHz4GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 1650 Ti
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
    ChillBlast - Custom to my design
    OS
    Windows 11 Pro x64 [Latest Release and Release Preview]
    CPU
    Ryzen 9 5950X, 3.8 - 5.2 MHz
    Motherboard
    Asus Prime X570-Pro
    Memory
    64GB [2 x 32GB] DDR4 3200MHz
    Graphics Card(s)
    4GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 1650 Ti
    Sound Card
    On-board SPDIF to 5.1 System + HDMI [5.1 system]
    Monitor(s) Displays
    32" UHD 32 Bit HDR Monitor + 43" UHD 4K 32Bit HDR TV
    Screen Resolution
    2 x 3840 x 2160 @60Hz
    Hard Drives
    1TB M2 SSD OS, 500GB Fast Access SSD, 2 x 8TB Data + Various Externals from 1TB to 4TB, 10TB NAS
    PSU
    NZXT C750 80 PLUS Gold 750W Modular PSU
    Case
    Workstation Case [Matt Black]
    Cooling
    NZXT Kraken X63 280mm CPU Cooler +2x Quiet Case fans
    Keyboard
    Logitech Wireless MX Keys & K400 + others
    Mouse
    Logitech Wireless MX Master 3S
    Internet Speed
    920 MB Down 50 MB Up
    Antivirus
    BitDefender Total Security Pro
    Browser
    Chrome (always run latest Non-Beta)
    Other Info
    Also run ...
    Laptop - Quad 8GB - Windows 10 Pro x64
    Nexus 7 Android tablet x2
    Samsung 10.2" tablet
    Blackview TAB 8 4G Android Tablet c/w Keyboard
    Wacom Intuos Pro Medium Pen Pad
    Wacom Intuos Pro Small Pen Pad
    Wacom Expresskeys Remote
    Loopdeck+ Graphics Controller
    Shuttle Pro v2 Control
  • At a glance

    Windows 11 Pro x64 Latest RPIntel I7 10750H 5.0GHz32GB [2x16GB] DDR4 2933 MHznVidia GTX1650Ti 4 GB GDDR6
    Computer type
    Laptop
    System Manufacturer/Model Number
    Dell XPS 17 10750H
    OS
    Windows 11 Pro x64 Latest RP
    CPU
    Intel I7 10750H 5.0GHz
    Motherboard
    Dell XPS
    Memory
    32GB [2x16GB] DDR4 2933 MHz
    Graphics Card(s)
    nVidia GTX1650Ti 4 GB GDDR6
    Sound Card
    Stock [Realtek] 4 Speaker
    Monitor(s) Displays
    17" IPS UHD+ Infinity Edge Touchscreen
    Screen Resolution
    3840 x 2400
    Hard Drives
    2TB M2 NVMe, 4TB External + various 500GB & 1TB External NVMe (also have access to spinner HDD from
    PSU
    Stock
    Case
    Stock XPS Aluminium & Carbon Fibre
    Cooling
    Stock - Active Fan Control
    Keyboard
    Backlit + Various Logitech
    Mouse
    Stock Track Pad + Logitech MX Trackball
    Internet Speed
    72 MB Down 18MB Up
    Browser
    Chrome
    Other Info
    Also run ...
    Laptop - Quad 8GB - Windows 10 Pro x64
    Nexus 7 Android tablet x2
    10.2" tablet
    Sony Z3 Android Smartphone
    Wacom Intuos Pro Medium Pen Pad
    Wacom Intuos Pro Small Pen Pad
    Wacom Expresskeys Remote
    Loopdeck+ Graphics Controller
    Shuttle Pro v2 Control Pad
    10TB NAS
One can also cover the laptop webcam - unless one uses any one of many utilities that will turn cam off and leave it off. This thread is so much fun, I learn a lot from all sides of the issue.
Correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think anyone in recent pages has mentioned webcams? There's plenty else going on in 10 that would merit privacy concerns.
 

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Win7 Pro x64AMD Ryzen 7 2700X32GB (Corsair Vengeance)Radeon RX 560 4GB (Gigabyte)
Computer type
PC/Desktop
OS
Win7 Pro x64
CPU
AMD Ryzen 7 2700X
Motherboard
Gigabyte Aorus B450 I Pro Wifi
Memory
32GB (Corsair Vengeance)
Graphics Card(s)
Radeon RX 560 4GB (Gigabyte)
Sound Card
Realtek (onboard)
Hard Drives
WD SSD 500GB / WD HDD 1TB
Browser
Firefox (Main), Opera (Alt)
Other Info
TP-Link Archer T3U Wireless NIC (onboard wifi wasn't Win7 compatible)
Well, wellcams, cameras built into laptops can be purposely "adjusted" -- a loss of privacy if that happens.

school district activated laptop cameras - Google Search

Anyway, if one is going to be concerned or worried about privacy loss or spyware (and other things) due to Windows Prime, one might as well cover the lens too.

And, yes, I too am one of those who will continue using Windows 7 for some time.
 

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Windows 7 Professional 64-bitDesktop i5; Acers i5 & i7desktop 16GB; 1 Acer 8GB & 1 Acer 16GB
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Antec desktop; Acer Aspire laptops
OS
Windows 7 Professional 64-bit
CPU
Desktop i5; Acers i5 & i7
Memory
desktop 16GB; 1 Acer 8GB & 1 Acer 16GB
Hard Drives
1TB split into 2 equal partitions [OS and data] usable by RJS
Internet Speed
AT&T DSL
Browser
FF, GChrome, msIE
Other Info
Windows 7 Firewall, Emsisoft AM/AV, MSE [scan-only], SpywareBlaster, Ruiware/BillP combine
Barman, can't view the jpg until I get home, school firewall blocks it, I think. I'm being asked over and over to login or register before viewing jpg is possible. :)
 

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Windows 7 Professional 64-bitDesktop i5; Acers i5 & i7desktop 16GB; 1 Acer 8GB & 1 Acer 16GB
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Antec desktop; Acer Aspire laptops
OS
Windows 7 Professional 64-bit
CPU
Desktop i5; Acers i5 & i7
Memory
desktop 16GB; 1 Acer 8GB & 1 Acer 16GB
Hard Drives
1TB split into 2 equal partitions [OS and data] usable by RJS
Internet Speed
AT&T DSL
Browser
FF, GChrome, msIE
Other Info
Windows 7 Firewall, Emsisoft AM/AV, MSE [scan-only], SpywareBlaster, Ruiware/BillP combine
Roland it will wait ;)
 

My Computers My Computers

  • At a glance

    Windows 11 Pro x64 [Latest Release and Releas...Ryzen 9 5950X, 3.8 - 5.2 MHz64GB [2 x 32GB] DDR4 3200MHz4GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 1650 Ti
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
    ChillBlast - Custom to my design
    OS
    Windows 11 Pro x64 [Latest Release and Release Preview]
    CPU
    Ryzen 9 5950X, 3.8 - 5.2 MHz
    Motherboard
    Asus Prime X570-Pro
    Memory
    64GB [2 x 32GB] DDR4 3200MHz
    Graphics Card(s)
    4GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 1650 Ti
    Sound Card
    On-board SPDIF to 5.1 System + HDMI [5.1 system]
    Monitor(s) Displays
    32" UHD 32 Bit HDR Monitor + 43" UHD 4K 32Bit HDR TV
    Screen Resolution
    2 x 3840 x 2160 @60Hz
    Hard Drives
    1TB M2 SSD OS, 500GB Fast Access SSD, 2 x 8TB Data + Various Externals from 1TB to 4TB, 10TB NAS
    PSU
    NZXT C750 80 PLUS Gold 750W Modular PSU
    Case
    Workstation Case [Matt Black]
    Cooling
    NZXT Kraken X63 280mm CPU Cooler +2x Quiet Case fans
    Keyboard
    Logitech Wireless MX Keys & K400 + others
    Mouse
    Logitech Wireless MX Master 3S
    Internet Speed
    920 MB Down 50 MB Up
    Antivirus
    BitDefender Total Security Pro
    Browser
    Chrome (always run latest Non-Beta)
    Other Info
    Also run ...
    Laptop - Quad 8GB - Windows 10 Pro x64
    Nexus 7 Android tablet x2
    Samsung 10.2" tablet
    Blackview TAB 8 4G Android Tablet c/w Keyboard
    Wacom Intuos Pro Medium Pen Pad
    Wacom Intuos Pro Small Pen Pad
    Wacom Expresskeys Remote
    Loopdeck+ Graphics Controller
    Shuttle Pro v2 Control
  • At a glance

    Windows 11 Pro x64 Latest RPIntel I7 10750H 5.0GHz32GB [2x16GB] DDR4 2933 MHznVidia GTX1650Ti 4 GB GDDR6
    Computer type
    Laptop
    System Manufacturer/Model Number
    Dell XPS 17 10750H
    OS
    Windows 11 Pro x64 Latest RP
    CPU
    Intel I7 10750H 5.0GHz
    Motherboard
    Dell XPS
    Memory
    32GB [2x16GB] DDR4 2933 MHz
    Graphics Card(s)
    nVidia GTX1650Ti 4 GB GDDR6
    Sound Card
    Stock [Realtek] 4 Speaker
    Monitor(s) Displays
    17" IPS UHD+ Infinity Edge Touchscreen
    Screen Resolution
    3840 x 2400
    Hard Drives
    2TB M2 NVMe, 4TB External + various 500GB & 1TB External NVMe (also have access to spinner HDD from
    PSU
    Stock
    Case
    Stock XPS Aluminium & Carbon Fibre
    Cooling
    Stock - Active Fan Control
    Keyboard
    Backlit + Various Logitech
    Mouse
    Stock Track Pad + Logitech MX Trackball
    Internet Speed
    72 MB Down 18MB Up
    Browser
    Chrome
    Other Info
    Also run ...
    Laptop - Quad 8GB - Windows 10 Pro x64
    Nexus 7 Android tablet x2
    10.2" tablet
    Sony Z3 Android Smartphone
    Wacom Intuos Pro Medium Pen Pad
    Wacom Intuos Pro Small Pen Pad
    Wacom Expresskeys Remote
    Loopdeck+ Graphics Controller
    Shuttle Pro v2 Control Pad
    10TB NAS
Roland it will wait ;)
Of course, meanwhile, since webcams can be hacked, I'm wondering if MICs can also be activated :) No matter, utilities that turn off and keep turned off lens and mics are available for those desiring them. I'm still staying with Windows 7 on my 2 laptops.
 

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Windows 7 Professional 64-bitDesktop i5; Acers i5 & i7desktop 16GB; 1 Acer 8GB & 1 Acer 16GB
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Antec desktop; Acer Aspire laptops
OS
Windows 7 Professional 64-bit
CPU
Desktop i5; Acers i5 & i7
Memory
desktop 16GB; 1 Acer 8GB & 1 Acer 16GB
Hard Drives
1TB split into 2 equal partitions [OS and data] usable by RJS
Internet Speed
AT&T DSL
Browser
FF, GChrome, msIE
Other Info
Windows 7 Firewall, Emsisoft AM/AV, MSE [scan-only], SpywareBlaster, Ruiware/BillP combine
One of the options on my Bitdefender Total security monitors all background access to both the Webcam and Microphone, and any other Microphones I'm not sure what if any other security software has these options but it can give peace of mind
 

My Computers My Computers

  • At a glance

    Windows 11 Pro x64 [Latest Release and Releas...Ryzen 9 5950X, 3.8 - 5.2 MHz64GB [2 x 32GB] DDR4 3200MHz4GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 1650 Ti
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
    ChillBlast - Custom to my design
    OS
    Windows 11 Pro x64 [Latest Release and Release Preview]
    CPU
    Ryzen 9 5950X, 3.8 - 5.2 MHz
    Motherboard
    Asus Prime X570-Pro
    Memory
    64GB [2 x 32GB] DDR4 3200MHz
    Graphics Card(s)
    4GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 1650 Ti
    Sound Card
    On-board SPDIF to 5.1 System + HDMI [5.1 system]
    Monitor(s) Displays
    32" UHD 32 Bit HDR Monitor + 43" UHD 4K 32Bit HDR TV
    Screen Resolution
    2 x 3840 x 2160 @60Hz
    Hard Drives
    1TB M2 SSD OS, 500GB Fast Access SSD, 2 x 8TB Data + Various Externals from 1TB to 4TB, 10TB NAS
    PSU
    NZXT C750 80 PLUS Gold 750W Modular PSU
    Case
    Workstation Case [Matt Black]
    Cooling
    NZXT Kraken X63 280mm CPU Cooler +2x Quiet Case fans
    Keyboard
    Logitech Wireless MX Keys & K400 + others
    Mouse
    Logitech Wireless MX Master 3S
    Internet Speed
    920 MB Down 50 MB Up
    Antivirus
    BitDefender Total Security Pro
    Browser
    Chrome (always run latest Non-Beta)
    Other Info
    Also run ...
    Laptop - Quad 8GB - Windows 10 Pro x64
    Nexus 7 Android tablet x2
    Samsung 10.2" tablet
    Blackview TAB 8 4G Android Tablet c/w Keyboard
    Wacom Intuos Pro Medium Pen Pad
    Wacom Intuos Pro Small Pen Pad
    Wacom Expresskeys Remote
    Loopdeck+ Graphics Controller
    Shuttle Pro v2 Control
  • At a glance

    Windows 11 Pro x64 Latest RPIntel I7 10750H 5.0GHz32GB [2x16GB] DDR4 2933 MHznVidia GTX1650Ti 4 GB GDDR6
    Computer type
    Laptop
    System Manufacturer/Model Number
    Dell XPS 17 10750H
    OS
    Windows 11 Pro x64 Latest RP
    CPU
    Intel I7 10750H 5.0GHz
    Motherboard
    Dell XPS
    Memory
    32GB [2x16GB] DDR4 2933 MHz
    Graphics Card(s)
    nVidia GTX1650Ti 4 GB GDDR6
    Sound Card
    Stock [Realtek] 4 Speaker
    Monitor(s) Displays
    17" IPS UHD+ Infinity Edge Touchscreen
    Screen Resolution
    3840 x 2400
    Hard Drives
    2TB M2 NVMe, 4TB External + various 500GB & 1TB External NVMe (also have access to spinner HDD from
    PSU
    Stock
    Case
    Stock XPS Aluminium & Carbon Fibre
    Cooling
    Stock - Active Fan Control
    Keyboard
    Backlit + Various Logitech
    Mouse
    Stock Track Pad + Logitech MX Trackball
    Internet Speed
    72 MB Down 18MB Up
    Browser
    Chrome
    Other Info
    Also run ...
    Laptop - Quad 8GB - Windows 10 Pro x64
    Nexus 7 Android tablet x2
    10.2" tablet
    Sony Z3 Android Smartphone
    Wacom Intuos Pro Medium Pen Pad
    Wacom Intuos Pro Small Pen Pad
    Wacom Expresskeys Remote
    Loopdeck+ Graphics Controller
    Shuttle Pro v2 Control Pad
    10TB NAS
One of the options on my Bitdefender Total security monitors all background access to both the Webcam and Microphone, and any other Microphones I'm not sure what if any other security software has these options but it can give peace of mind

Unless Bitdefender is really a front for the CIA/NSA/MI5/MOSAD/FSB and they are secretly recording you, sending all the sensitive info on if you had beans with your toast or whatever you talked to yourself about today to some secret data farm buried under a mountain somewhere and will use this against you later in life.
 

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Windows 11
Computer type
PC/Desktop
OS
Windows 11
Later in life? does that mean I'm gonna live forever ? Yippie :p
 

My Computers My Computers

  • At a glance

    Windows 11 Pro x64 [Latest Release and Releas...Ryzen 9 5950X, 3.8 - 5.2 MHz64GB [2 x 32GB] DDR4 3200MHz4GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 1650 Ti
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
    ChillBlast - Custom to my design
    OS
    Windows 11 Pro x64 [Latest Release and Release Preview]
    CPU
    Ryzen 9 5950X, 3.8 - 5.2 MHz
    Motherboard
    Asus Prime X570-Pro
    Memory
    64GB [2 x 32GB] DDR4 3200MHz
    Graphics Card(s)
    4GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 1650 Ti
    Sound Card
    On-board SPDIF to 5.1 System + HDMI [5.1 system]
    Monitor(s) Displays
    32" UHD 32 Bit HDR Monitor + 43" UHD 4K 32Bit HDR TV
    Screen Resolution
    2 x 3840 x 2160 @60Hz
    Hard Drives
    1TB M2 SSD OS, 500GB Fast Access SSD, 2 x 8TB Data + Various Externals from 1TB to 4TB, 10TB NAS
    PSU
    NZXT C750 80 PLUS Gold 750W Modular PSU
    Case
    Workstation Case [Matt Black]
    Cooling
    NZXT Kraken X63 280mm CPU Cooler +2x Quiet Case fans
    Keyboard
    Logitech Wireless MX Keys & K400 + others
    Mouse
    Logitech Wireless MX Master 3S
    Internet Speed
    920 MB Down 50 MB Up
    Antivirus
    BitDefender Total Security Pro
    Browser
    Chrome (always run latest Non-Beta)
    Other Info
    Also run ...
    Laptop - Quad 8GB - Windows 10 Pro x64
    Nexus 7 Android tablet x2
    Samsung 10.2" tablet
    Blackview TAB 8 4G Android Tablet c/w Keyboard
    Wacom Intuos Pro Medium Pen Pad
    Wacom Intuos Pro Small Pen Pad
    Wacom Expresskeys Remote
    Loopdeck+ Graphics Controller
    Shuttle Pro v2 Control
  • At a glance

    Windows 11 Pro x64 Latest RPIntel I7 10750H 5.0GHz32GB [2x16GB] DDR4 2933 MHznVidia GTX1650Ti 4 GB GDDR6
    Computer type
    Laptop
    System Manufacturer/Model Number
    Dell XPS 17 10750H
    OS
    Windows 11 Pro x64 Latest RP
    CPU
    Intel I7 10750H 5.0GHz
    Motherboard
    Dell XPS
    Memory
    32GB [2x16GB] DDR4 2933 MHz
    Graphics Card(s)
    nVidia GTX1650Ti 4 GB GDDR6
    Sound Card
    Stock [Realtek] 4 Speaker
    Monitor(s) Displays
    17" IPS UHD+ Infinity Edge Touchscreen
    Screen Resolution
    3840 x 2400
    Hard Drives
    2TB M2 NVMe, 4TB External + various 500GB & 1TB External NVMe (also have access to spinner HDD from
    PSU
    Stock
    Case
    Stock XPS Aluminium & Carbon Fibre
    Cooling
    Stock - Active Fan Control
    Keyboard
    Backlit + Various Logitech
    Mouse
    Stock Track Pad + Logitech MX Trackball
    Internet Speed
    72 MB Down 18MB Up
    Browser
    Chrome
    Other Info
    Also run ...
    Laptop - Quad 8GB - Windows 10 Pro x64
    Nexus 7 Android tablet x2
    10.2" tablet
    Sony Z3 Android Smartphone
    Wacom Intuos Pro Medium Pen Pad
    Wacom Intuos Pro Small Pen Pad
    Wacom Expresskeys Remote
    Loopdeck+ Graphics Controller
    Shuttle Pro v2 Control Pad
    10TB NAS
Well, wellcams, cameras built into laptops can be purposely "adjusted" -- a loss of privacy if that happens.

school district activated laptop cameras - Google Search

Anyway, if one is going to be concerned or worried about privacy loss or spyware (and other things) due to Windows Prime, one might as well cover the lens too.

And, yes, I too am one of those who will continue using Windows 7 for some time.
I probably would, if I had one. The ironic thing is that the laptop I happened to run Win10 on was clearly built to include a webcam, but actually doesn't (you can see the indent where the cam would be, but there's just more plastic there). Got it on Lenovo's website, some weird deal of a machine they were probably trying to get rid of. Not complaining though, the rest of the hardware is fairly good and I have a USB webcam to plug in if needed (and OS issues aside, it's been running pretty well for a laptop from 2016).

Mostly what I was taking issue with was introducing the webcam thing, somewhat jokingly unless I'm mistaken, into a discussion that (at least the last couple pages, since I joined this thread) up until that point was focusing on issues unrelated to that at all - as if the webcam was the extent of Win10 privacy concerns.

To be fair, there are definitely some people out there who think slapping a sticker over one's webcam is a cure for all privacy ills. But I'm going to assume on good faith that such people aren't posting in this thread. :-)
 

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Win7 Pro x64AMD Ryzen 7 2700X32GB (Corsair Vengeance)Radeon RX 560 4GB (Gigabyte)
Computer type
PC/Desktop
OS
Win7 Pro x64
CPU
AMD Ryzen 7 2700X
Motherboard
Gigabyte Aorus B450 I Pro Wifi
Memory
32GB (Corsair Vengeance)
Graphics Card(s)
Radeon RX 560 4GB (Gigabyte)
Sound Card
Realtek (onboard)
Hard Drives
WD SSD 500GB / WD HDD 1TB
Browser
Firefox (Main), Opera (Alt)
Other Info
TP-Link Archer T3U Wireless NIC (onboard wifi wasn't Win7 compatible)
Best take I've read on the subject in weeks. Many thanks for this ES:

Wow, "tinfoil hat?" Haven't heard that one before.

All kidding aside, it's a credit to this forum in general that it took me two weeks to come across the same kind of dismissive trolling that any other outlet seems to provide the moment "Win7" escapes your keyboard these days. Around here I've gotten actual answers. Probably wouldn't have been able to get my new 7Pro desktop running otherwise.

But for the record: I gave Win10 the college try. For a good three years and counting, now. My current laptop came with 7 on it and since my desktop at the time had 7, I figured I'd go ahead with the upgrade just for versatility reasons. Since then I've had to laboriously go through the registry and group policy to turn off (most of) the telemetry, fight the update system several times to prevent auto-rebooting before turning them off completely because it refused to listen, run O&OShutup10 whose changes frequently get reverted, learn that 10 ignores any instructions in the hosts file to avoid connecting to its severs necessitating that you block them on the router level (which is pointless since, y'know, this is a laptop and it has to go on other networks sometimes), and put up with the terrible "app" form replacements to Windows accessories (e.g. Calculator, Paint) and large parts of Control Panel because apparently a stripped-down mobile interface is what we all want for our desktop machines. And for all that, the number of actual benefits gained over 7 as far as I'm concerned remains a big fat zero (unless you're going to argue that whatever post-EOS security updates MS releases for 10 are more important to security than, say, common sense, in which case I don't know what to tell you).

You'll note that none of the above can be blamed on hardware quirkiness for a machine that wasn't designed for 10. If I were including that, I might blame 10 for the fact I've had to remove the laptop's optical drive completely from device manager lest the machine crash within a minute of detecting it. I've been saying for the last year or two that the moment the laptop gets bricked for any software-based reason, I'm restoring its factory image and never going back to 10. Hasn't happened yet, but maybe 2020 will be the year.

As hubgod alluded to, no OS is perfect and every new Windows has made some missteps. 7 is no exception IMO. But in every Windows OS upgrade since the 3.1 days, I've found each new OS to be either good or, at worst, a mixed bag (except for 8, but let's not talk about 8). I specifically consider 10 a downgrade because it actually requires more tweaking than 7 to make it workable, and because for all its faults, it brings practically nothing new to the table for anyone who couldn't care less about MS' attempts to create a multi-platform quasi-mobile ecosystem and just wants a functional desktop machine. Obviously, at some point it will become completely impractical to find suitable hardware or software for 7, but only due to the well-established march of time (read: planned obsolescence) rather than any good reason.

So I wonder: am I a tinfoil hat because after three years I made an informed decision to stick with 7? Or because I even bothered to try turning 10's crap off?
 

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Windows 7 Professional 64bitIntel Core i7 4600M @ 2.90GHz16.0GB Dual-Channel DDR3 @ 797MHz (11-11-11-28)Intel HD Graphics 4600 (Dell) 2048MB ATI AMD ...
Computer type
Laptop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Dell Latitude E6540 Laptop
OS
Windows 7 Professional 64bit
CPU
Intel Core i7 4600M @ 2.90GHz
Motherboard
Dell Inc. 0CYT5F (SOCKET 0)
Memory
16.0GB Dual-Channel DDR3 @ 797MHz (11-11-11-28)
Graphics Card(s)
Intel HD Graphics 4600 (Dell) 2048MB ATI AMD Radeon HD 8790M
Sound Card
Realtek High Definition Audio
Monitor(s) Displays
HP ZR30w (2560x1600@60Hz)
Hard Drives
256GB LITEONIT LMT-256M6M-41 mm SATA (SSD)
1TB Samsung SSD 860 EVO mSATA SATA (SSD)
2TB USB 3.0 USB Device
115GB SanDisk Ultra Fit USB
Other Info
Multiple Dell E-Port Plus II Port Replicator/Docking Stations 0Y72NH USB 3.0 + 130W AC Adapters
"...secretly [hearing and] recording you..." Naw, that's what Google Home, Alexa, Siri are for :)
Anyway, I mentioned webcams and microphones because such are also part and parcel of Windows 7 and Windows 10.
 

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Windows 7 Professional 64-bitDesktop i5; Acers i5 & i7desktop 16GB; 1 Acer 8GB & 1 Acer 16GB
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Antec desktop; Acer Aspire laptops
OS
Windows 7 Professional 64-bit
CPU
Desktop i5; Acers i5 & i7
Memory
desktop 16GB; 1 Acer 8GB & 1 Acer 16GB
Hard Drives
1TB split into 2 equal partitions [OS and data] usable by RJS
Internet Speed
AT&T DSL
Browser
FF, GChrome, msIE
Other Info
Windows 7 Firewall, Emsisoft AM/AV, MSE [scan-only], SpywareBlaster, Ruiware/BillP combine
(RolandJS--
My desktop computer mike unplugs and my webcam has a sliding door that covers the lens, and also unplugs. Time to switch back to a desktop?)
 

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Win 7 Ult 64-bitG620 2.6GHZ Pentium R6 GB
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
HP p6-2020t
OS
Win 7 Ult 64-bit
CPU
G620 2.6GHZ Pentium R
Memory
6 GB
Monitor(s) Displays
25" HPLV2311
Screen Resolution
1920 x 1200
Hard Drives
1 SATA, 1 exterior SATA
Case
HP
Cooling
PSU
Antivirus
Glasswire
Browser
Waterfox; Firefox; Chrome for work
Other Info
Firewall--Glasswire
Similar specs in Gateway DX4200
Verizon FIOS Wired network

1 other Win7 computer-- has SSD
"...secretly [hearing and] recording you..." Naw, that's what Google Home, Alexa, Siri are for :)
Anyway, I mentioned webcams and microphones because such are also part and parcel of Windows 7 and Windows 10.
Fair enough, on its face at least.


Honestly though, with the way all of the above companies as well as MS have been behaving for the last half-decade (generously speaking), is it any wonder people are donning the tinfoil hats? I'm not saying that I've read specific evidence of MS doing that. I am saying that if a story drops tomorrow that that is the case, I will not be remotely surprised.
 

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Really, geeks, it's time to throw those tinfoil hats away.

Microsoft is not interested in you and your life. There's no keylogger in Windows 10 sending your keystrokes to MS. The telemetry collected is ONLY to make your user experience better, to learn what you search, what aps you use, and so on, to adapt to your way to use Windows to be able to serve you better, make Windows user experience better. It is completely anonymous, only a few kilobytes, and does not cause any slowness or delay in your network connection.

Microsoft is absolutely not interested about your photos, they do not have a department to follow you and pick the photos in which you make yourself ridiculous to their staff cafeteria walls for their staff to have a good laugh. They will not contact your ex if / when you call her a bitch in a private Skype conversation. They are not contacting tax authorities if / when you tell a mate in an email message that you lied in your declaration.

To put it simple: Microsoft has absolutely, profoundly no interest in you.

A sad truth is, that the users who have the most issues with Windows 10 are those who try to "protect their privacy" and disable important Windows services. What's even sadder is, that most of this paranoia comes not from experience, but from listening baseless rumours. If someone mentions online that "Microsoft is spying you", sadly the tinfoil brigade members believe this.

My advice: consult a shrink, check your medication. You are not important enough for Microsoft to have any interest in you.

Kari
 

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"...secretly [hearing and] recording you..." Naw, that's what Google Home, Alexa, Siri are for :)
Anyway, I mentioned webcams and microphones because such are also part and parcel of Windows 7 and Windows 10.

I love hearing the paranoid rant about Alexa's etc yet are quite happy to carry a phone around in their pockets that has the potential to spy just as much as an Alexa and also has GPS tracking :doh:
 

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I love hearing the paranoid rant about Alexa's etc yet are quite happy to carry a phone around in their pockets that has the potential to spy just as much as an Alexa and also has GPS tracking :doh:

Exactly!

It is amazing how these users complaining about Microsoft spying on them are happy Android and iPhone users, without a complaint.

Kari
 

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Really, geeks, it's time to throw those tinfoil hats away.
they do not have a department to follow you and pick the photos in which you make yourself ridiculous to their staff cafeteria walls for their staff to have a good laugh. They will not contact your ex if / when you call her a bitch in a private Skype conversation.
My advice: consult a shrink, check your medication. You are not important enough for Microsoft to have any interest in you.
Serious question here: do you actually think that making fun of people is going to cause them to have epiphanies which make them embrace Win10? Especially since I, the one who replied to you last time, went out of my way to specifically clarify having given Win10 more than three years to win me over? Or is all of the above for your personal amusement alone?

I'd be happy to have a respectful discussion with you about my or anyone else's reasons for not wishing to upgrade their personal machines to 10 (which include reasons well beyond the scope of "spying," even if we treat "spying" by your limited and deliberately caricatured definition). But for that to happen, I have to be able to give you the benefit of the doubt that you aren't just trolling, and you're not exactly making that easy at the moment.



I love hearing the paranoid rant about Alexa's etc yet are quite happy to carry a phone around in their pockets that has the potential to spy just as much as an Alexa and also has GPS tracking :doh:
I can't speak for anyone else, but I wouldn't assume any given person is "quite happy" about the state of mobile devices these days. But given that a certain amount of data has always been available to your phone carrier long before smartphones even came along, it feels reasonable to me to say that phones were never a private platform. Therefore, I'm "quite happy" to simply relegate anything I consider sensitive to a device without such issues, which is where a Win7 or Linux machine comes in.

Functionally speaking, this just means I don't keep much in the way of documents or personal data on the phone or any associated account. It's just as well, since I basically treat the device as just "a dumb phone with a decent web browser" anyway.
 

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Half of my programs are 32bit from Win XP. They're not ones that are unsafe in an older version, but they probably won't run on 10.
I have plenty of 32-bit programs from Win95 days that run fine in W10, though some need compatibility mode to be set. W10 has an XP compatibilty mode so you should be fine.

Nor will my printer or webcam...
There you might have problems if the printer is so old that there are no drivers available beyond XP. W8 drivers should work.
 

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