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The Computer is : HP Pavilion s5227c Desktop / OS: Windows 7
SSD1 : SAMSUNG 860EVO 250GB / SSD2 : SAMSUNG 860EVO 250GB
HD1 : Seagate ST4000DM at 4TB, 3815320MB, Partition style: GUID Partition Table (GPT)
HD1 : Partition1 = 102000MB, Partition2 = 1331200MB, Partition3 = 1460177MB
On SSD1 is installed Windows 7 from CDROM. One only NTFS partition. OS goes on Drive C:\
At this point Service Pack 1 is not installed yet. A few applications are installed, one of them is
Acronis True Image Home Edition, utilized to perform a Windows7 OS backup.
The backup is done. By default TrueImage create a folder on HD1-partition3 F:\MyBackups\ and create 5 files of 4.7GB.
They are the actual Drive C: Windows7 OS backup. On HD1 was already a folder called
F:\Backup\ into which was 3 subfolders of previous backups from another computer altogether.
Now, on HD1 F:\ are two folders called \MyBackups and \Backup into which are subfolders
containing many backup files of different version of Windows7.
To keep things orderly, the 5 backup files in F:\MyBackup are moved into folder F:\Backup\Win7Bare\
and F:\MyBackup is deliberately erased since it’s empty and no longer needed.
Then, ServicePack1 is installed. After reboot, the folder F:\Backup\Win7Bare is gone. The other subfolders are still there with all files.
The newly created and moved \Win7Bare subfolder is not visible anymore. Assumption is now that the newly created backup is not available anymore. A very puzzling and troublesome behavior from the computer/OS.
That backup is needed for restore but no longer available. To counter this problem another SSD is utilized to repeat the installation with, yet another installation of Windows7.
The exact procedure is repeated. After Windows 7 is installed on SSD2 mounted with HD1, partition3 that contain drive F:\ , suddenly, now show the folder F:\MyBackups and contain the 5 files previously lost. As if the copied files from previous Windows7 installation were never moved into F:\Backup\Win7Bare folder. The original Windows7 backup can now be copied into Drive E:\MyBackup just to make sure of its availability, since HD1 reliability appear compromised.
HD1 content when Windows7 is booted from SSD_1
F:\My Backup\Win7Bare\
HD1 content when Windows7SP1 is booted from SSD_2
F:\Backup\many sub - NO Win7Bare\
F:\Bibliotheque\
F:\Document\
Notice the major difference between the two OS. Notice the absence of 3 folders when booted from the SSD1 that has Windows7 no SP1 installed. Notice the absence of that one folder when the SP1 version is booted from the SSD2. ( Both cases are done by swapping from SSD1 to SSD2 ). The test is systematically repetitive. I have booted both SSD many times. Every time is show a difference in the HD1 content.
Very puzzeling indeed !
It is pertinent to mention that prior to installing Windows7 on this HP computer, the Seagate HD1 was prepared with one only partition of 1TB, NTFS. A configuration with limited capabilities inherent to the 3TB limit of NTFS. After discovery of this limitation, the HD1 partition was deleted and the drive was changed to GPT mode. This created an unexplained problem in that HD1 could no longer access the whole 4TB. Instead only 1.6TB was possible, even in GPT mode. The rest was obliterated and inaccessible. To counteract the situation the drive had to be treated with a Seagate DOS application to re-initialize it to factory default. Then the drive 4TB was available again and could be repartitioned into 3 partitions ( has described above ). After that all partitions were utilized for various data, which became available in the s5227c HP computer.
The test have been done many times. Booting the computer with SSD1 (holding Windows 7 no SP1 ) will show the folder F:\Backup\Win7Bare\ on HD1 partition 3 and will hide F:\Backup and other folders. Yet, booting the computer with SSD2 ( holding Windows 7 with SP1 ) will hide the folder F:\Backup\Win7Bare\ on HD1 partition 3 and will show F:\Backup and other folders.
It appear as if SP1 installation was messing the File Allocation Table of partition 3 on HD1. Could it be caused by the factory reset done with the Seagate DOS application ? It appear to be the only factor that could have caused this behavior.
The Question: How can Files and Folders be available or not, after booting from Win7SP1 or Win7 not SP1 ? What could cause such a bizarre disappearance ?
SSD1 : SAMSUNG 860EVO 250GB / SSD2 : SAMSUNG 860EVO 250GB
HD1 : Seagate ST4000DM at 4TB, 3815320MB, Partition style: GUID Partition Table (GPT)
HD1 : Partition1 = 102000MB, Partition2 = 1331200MB, Partition3 = 1460177MB
On SSD1 is installed Windows 7 from CDROM. One only NTFS partition. OS goes on Drive C:\
At this point Service Pack 1 is not installed yet. A few applications are installed, one of them is
Acronis True Image Home Edition, utilized to perform a Windows7 OS backup.
The backup is done. By default TrueImage create a folder on HD1-partition3 F:\MyBackups\ and create 5 files of 4.7GB.
They are the actual Drive C: Windows7 OS backup. On HD1 was already a folder called
F:\Backup\ into which was 3 subfolders of previous backups from another computer altogether.
Now, on HD1 F:\ are two folders called \MyBackups and \Backup into which are subfolders
containing many backup files of different version of Windows7.
To keep things orderly, the 5 backup files in F:\MyBackup are moved into folder F:\Backup\Win7Bare\
and F:\MyBackup is deliberately erased since it’s empty and no longer needed.
Then, ServicePack1 is installed. After reboot, the folder F:\Backup\Win7Bare is gone. The other subfolders are still there with all files.
The newly created and moved \Win7Bare subfolder is not visible anymore. Assumption is now that the newly created backup is not available anymore. A very puzzling and troublesome behavior from the computer/OS.
That backup is needed for restore but no longer available. To counter this problem another SSD is utilized to repeat the installation with, yet another installation of Windows7.
The exact procedure is repeated. After Windows 7 is installed on SSD2 mounted with HD1, partition3 that contain drive F:\ , suddenly, now show the folder F:\MyBackups and contain the 5 files previously lost. As if the copied files from previous Windows7 installation were never moved into F:\Backup\Win7Bare folder. The original Windows7 backup can now be copied into Drive E:\MyBackup just to make sure of its availability, since HD1 reliability appear compromised.
HD1 content when Windows7 is booted from SSD_1
F:\My Backup\Win7Bare\
HD1 content when Windows7SP1 is booted from SSD_2
F:\Backup\many sub - NO Win7Bare\
F:\Bibliotheque\
F:\Document\
Notice the major difference between the two OS. Notice the absence of 3 folders when booted from the SSD1 that has Windows7 no SP1 installed. Notice the absence of that one folder when the SP1 version is booted from the SSD2. ( Both cases are done by swapping from SSD1 to SSD2 ). The test is systematically repetitive. I have booted both SSD many times. Every time is show a difference in the HD1 content.
Very puzzeling indeed !
It is pertinent to mention that prior to installing Windows7 on this HP computer, the Seagate HD1 was prepared with one only partition of 1TB, NTFS. A configuration with limited capabilities inherent to the 3TB limit of NTFS. After discovery of this limitation, the HD1 partition was deleted and the drive was changed to GPT mode. This created an unexplained problem in that HD1 could no longer access the whole 4TB. Instead only 1.6TB was possible, even in GPT mode. The rest was obliterated and inaccessible. To counteract the situation the drive had to be treated with a Seagate DOS application to re-initialize it to factory default. Then the drive 4TB was available again and could be repartitioned into 3 partitions ( has described above ). After that all partitions were utilized for various data, which became available in the s5227c HP computer.
The test have been done many times. Booting the computer with SSD1 (holding Windows 7 no SP1 ) will show the folder F:\Backup\Win7Bare\ on HD1 partition 3 and will hide F:\Backup and other folders. Yet, booting the computer with SSD2 ( holding Windows 7 with SP1 ) will hide the folder F:\Backup\Win7Bare\ on HD1 partition 3 and will show F:\Backup and other folders.
It appear as if SP1 installation was messing the File Allocation Table of partition 3 on HD1. Could it be caused by the factory reset done with the Seagate DOS application ? It appear to be the only factor that could have caused this behavior.
The Question: How can Files and Folders be available or not, after booting from Win7SP1 or Win7 not SP1 ? What could cause such a bizarre disappearance ?
My Computer
At a glance
Windows 7 Ultimate x64AMD Phenom 8550 triple core Processor 2.2Ghz6 Gigs
- Computer type
- PC/Desktop
- Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
- hp
- OS
- Windows 7 Ultimate x64
- CPU
- AMD Phenom 8550 triple core Processor 2.2Ghz
- Motherboard
- M2N78-LA
- Memory
- 6 Gigs
- Hard Drives
- SSDnow 300V Kingstron as OS drive and WD Caviar Black as Data drive
- Antivirus
- None and I don't want any
- Browser
- Google Chrome
