I dont get 5.1 sound

[ljubisa24]

Well my problem is as goes ...

I have a SB Audigy SE and i installed drivers from Windows Update (those are same as creative site ones) and they work nicely.

I set my speakers settings to 5.1 tested and all speakers work >.< but when i play some music i get only stereo (since no EAX ofc ...)

What ever EAX driver pack i tried to install doesnt work properly (P17X support pack 2.0 and 1.6 ment for my card doesnt work since Audio console doesnt open up) and RobertM (useless drivers since i get Blue Screen from those) and kXproject ( poor sound ).

I tried to install EAX without a driver (so it would work with my current Windows Update driver that works good) but that wont work since i get a message that i should turn off all applications when im not running anything XD.

I tried to install the windows XP package with EAX and it installs XD but what ever i do in EAX console like set CMSS doesnt work at all just like EAX is not there at all.

So any idea how can i get my SB0570 >_< Audigy SE to work with EAX so i could get 5.1 with my Aimp2 player ?

 

[stormy13]

ljubisa24, welcome to the forums.

A few things,

1.

I set my speakers settings to 5.1 tested and all speakers work >.< but when i play some music i get only stereo

Good reason for that; unless the audio file is DVD-A, it is only going to be in stereo without some kind of upmixing involved.

2. EAX. Eax has nothing to do with whether something plays ion stereo or 5.1, it is exactly what its name implies, "environmental audio extensions",

Environmental audio extensions - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

3.

What ever EAX driver pack i tried to install doesnt work properly (P17X support pack 2.0 and 1.6 ment for my card doesnt work since Audio console doesnt open up) and RobertM (useless drivers since i get Blue Screen from those) and kXproject ( poor sound ).

In the case of the P17x pack it probably has something to do with the driver you installed through Windows Update. It may be the same driver version as what is availab;e from Creative at the moment, but think you will find that that is all it is; just the driver. The one from Creative should also have the latest Audio Console in it.

As far as the PAX drivers go, let's just say I'll keep my opinion of them to myself. If you saw what his supposed "tweaks" were, you would realize they don't do anything.

The Kx drivers were never meant for your card, so no real surprise there that they don't work properly.

With all that out of the way I would start with uninstalling anything you can find in Programs and Features relating to Creative, as well as uninstalling the card through Device Manager. Then boot to Safe Mode and use this,

Guru3D - Driver Sweeper (no installer) download from Guru3D.com

to clean up any remnants. Once that is all done try using just the P17X pack and see if that will get the drivers and included apps working.

 

[ljubisa24]

Wow ty for a nice welcome and a quick answer stormy =)

I will try that sure need to finish my work 1st cant end it nao >.<

P.S: i used EAX console for CMSS in XP that only thing i wanted to use from it XD

 

[ljubisa24]

I did what you said and CMSS is still not working.

Tho i notice now that High definition audio device is same **** as windows xp ( realtek audio ... ).

Can it be that its making problems with my audio again and how do i delete it forever since driver sweeper doesnt delete it ?

I can see where it is in system32 but do i delete those files manualy and try again ?

 

[stormy13]

Make sure that teh onboard Realtek audio is disabled in the bios. Also your HD4650 has its own Realtek audio on the card, so if the onboard is disabled this could be what you are seeing (and should have no affect on your Audigy, other than as another option in the playback settings).

 

[ljubisa24]

Then i have no idea

I tried it all and CMSS doesnt work.

With px17 it has no effect same as the creative audio console equalizer.

I guess i need to wait for newer update on this p17x driver pack then XD.

Ty very much for your help anyway =) you have a great forum running here keep up the great work m8

 

[Vaun]

Please help same problem with ON-BOARD 5.1 *sigh* ASUS P5K motherboard

 

[spokes]

I have similar problem with VIA HD Audio Deck and ASUS mobo. AFAIK the drivers are up to date, but the speaker settings seem to have a mind of their own. I can set them up and test them ok as 5.1, then later on I'll only get sound out of two (or sometimes four) speakers. When I reboot, the 5.1 system is restored. Crazy

 

[The Stodd]

If you search the forum you will see that there are major problems with 5.1 in Windows 7 (and believe there were in Vista), it's a very common problem and there appears to be no fix yet.

However, new Realtek drivers out for those with that, so fingers crossed it works, not been able to try them yet myself.

 

[ljubisa24]

I might pull out my creative and try realtek again =)

Anyone tested the new drivers ?

For me its important to have my music in all 5.1 speakers and since CMSS doesnt work yet XD any ideas on realtek drivers?

 

[ljubisa24]

Well i tried my Realtek and same problem applies here.

When i try to turn on the Speaker Fill option that is similar to CMSS one i use with my creative i get poor sound quality and no vocals from rear speakers at all and heave hiss ammount.

Can this be a Windows 7 problem in general or im doing something wrong ?

Maybe i should go back to my XP ... I really love to enjoy good quality music and dont really care about games so much they work fine like this anyway.

 

[The Stodd]

Same here but with Realtek on board - if the speaker tests all work surely it is a 7 problem?

 

[The Stodd]

I might pull out my creative and try realtek again =)

Anyone tested the new drivers ?

For me its important to have my music in all 5.1 speakers and since CMSS doesnt work yet XD any ideas on realtek drivers?

No luck with new drivers for Realtek, Boo!

 

[ljubisa24]

Well i solved my problem xD

I decided to stop testing all different CMSSs, speaker fills ...

And decided to solve my software problem with a hardware solution.

I just got myself a 2/1 spliter ... so i plugged in my Front Speakers and Rear Speakers cable in the spliter and plugged that into my Realtek sound card atm. Defined it as Front Speaker Out when Realtek program asked and left subwoofer and mic ones same.

I know i know ... Its a ugly sollution. But since i like to listen to my music most of the time this is acctually good for me until creative or realtek make there drivers work properly.

Like this i get a fully working all speakers (even better then CMSS or speaker fill can probably ever be) so for now i am happy if you can call it that lol.

 

[PvtMatter]

I might pull out my creative and try realtek again =)

Anyone tested the new drivers ?

For me its important to have my music in all 5.1 speakers and since CMSS doesnt work yet XD any ideas on realtek drivers?

I had Realtek on board, downloaded the latest drivers, no center and back speakers. I disabled it and installed an Audigy 4 right out of the box....downloaded latest drivers. However, I still have the same problem....on side front speakers only. From my research with Creative it seems you can enable the other speakers in a 5.1 setup by opening the Creative Media Source and clicking on the EAX button. My problem is I don't have an EAX console (get message that no supported audio device is detected when I try to launch from the EAX folder under Creative). Maybe you have an EAX console? I can't find where I can download this separtely but maybe you can.

 

[priosteel]

hey mate, i had the same problem and it was driving me nuts. i;m assuming you have windows 7 32bit installed. you cant install the driver that came with the product in windows 7 even if you change the compatibility mode from properties.

It may sound wierd, and i dont know how it worked, butThe fix that worked for me, is i installed windows 764-bit and then installed the driver form the original disk. Bt before that you have to change the compatibility to windows xp.

Just Hit Properties>Compatibility>Check run this program for windows xp.

HOpe it Works for you. Eax console is Working for me and i get surround sound.

 

[PatrickICE]

I have the same problems but I can at least get surround sound, but not bass/subwoofer, by using a DSP like ATSurround for Foobar2000. I describe my bass issues here:

daniel_k’s SB Audigy Series Support Pack 3.5 (10/11/2009) No More Goat Soup

While running Vista for a couple weeks I used your driver pack and it worked great…minus one issue. I have an analog 5.1 speaker system with an Audigy 4 Pro. Worked perfectly with XP. Surround works fine on Vista with this driver package but the subwoofer is outputting zippo. And, yes, I have set speakers to 5.1, enabled bass management wherever I could find it, set the crossover to 200Hz, and turned off CMSS and all effects. There’s no subwoofer output, not even in the control panels.


So I recently upgraded to Windows 7 Pro and the sound is working exactly the same as it did with Vista. Can’t say I’m not surprised. Anyone else have the same situation…and a fix?

I'll add that I also tried the official Creative driver packs. And when I play with the ATSurround DSP's settings I can change the settings for any of the shelf speakers but changing any of the bass/sub settings does absolutely nothing.

 

[ljubisa24]

I might pull out my creative and try realtek again =)

Anyone tested the new drivers ?

For me its important to have my music in all 5.1 speakers and since CMSS doesnt work yet XD any ideas on realtek drivers?

I had Realtek on board, downloaded the latest drivers, no center and back speakers. I disabled it and installed an Audigy 4 right out of the box....downloaded latest drivers. However, I still have the same problem....on side front speakers only. From my research with Creative it seems you can enable the other speakers in a 5.1 setup by opening the Creative Media Source and clicking on the EAX button. My problem is I don't have an EAX console (get message that no supported audio device is detected when I try to launch from the EAX folder under Creative). Maybe you have an EAX console? I can't find where I can download this separtely but maybe you can.

Well Realtek speaker fill works acctually you only need to enable it. However it works REALLY REALLY bad.

When it comes to EAX you can find it really hard... And it doesnt really work on huge % of creative cards atm. Creative forum is floded with help requests and many are EAX related. I do have a EAX console from a iP17 support pack for SB Augidy SE. And it doesnt work at all.

 

[PatrickICE]

Not sure exactly what I did. I tried using digital output via SPDIF instead of analog output. While everything "worked" it was only because the external decoder was using Pro Logic thus the bass was weak and the surround so-so. After I switched back to analog the bass/sub was working with Foobar2000 and the ATSurround DSP. Huh. Still getting stereo with most stuff online, though. Guess I just need to find some software DSPs for IE/Media Player.