stuttering in games. (mainly valve)

[torrentg]

Type system information into start menu search box. Hit enter. Then in screen that pops up, do ctrl+s to save. Then Winrar the saved file. Attach the .rar to a post so we could check on a few things. Something might alert us or stand out.

 

[lnxtinman]

i struggle to figure out why some1 playing a game online would have so much stuff running behind the game......does it do it in single player and did you turn off multi-core? you have way too many things running in the background....also, what kind of internet connection do you have?

 

[H2SO4]

i struggle to figure out why some1 playing a game online would have so much stuff running behind the game......does it do it in single player and did you turn off multi-core? you have way too many things running in the background....also, what kind of internet connection do you have?

I struggle to figure out why anybody would "turn off multi-core"? Can you explain that in more detail?

 

[BusOfTheUndead]

i struggle to figure out why some1 playing a game online would have so much stuff running behind the game......does it do it in single player and did you turn off multi-core? you have way too many things running in the background....also, what kind of internet connection do you have?

I struggle to figure out why anybody would "turn off multi-core"? Can you explain that in more detail?

Because even Valve admits that it is buggy as hell. It often causes rather unstable frame rates. The multi-core rendering Valve has implemented for source engine games is still pretty much in beta.

 

[torrentg]

Because even Valve admits that it is buggy as hell. It often causes rather unstable frame rates. The multi-core rendering Valve has implemented for source engine games is still pretty much in beta.

If this is true....I can't believe we are trying to troubleshoot such pos lol.

 

[mushroomboy]

I struggle to figure out why we are trying to find the solution for valve softoware.... Don't get me wrong I use valve software, doesn't mean I like to. haha

 

[sotorious]

Well i mean ive had a few hiccups out of game watching a movie and what not. thats why i cant get it going constant, if you guys still want to give it a shot here is that file.

 

[torrentg]

The system looks suprisingly well although I did notice you didn't uninstall the 3d Steroscopic NVIDIA driver.

I also noticed your refesh rate is 59 Hz. Perhaps give this thread a read....Somewhere in the middle of it is a fix.

http://www.sevenforums.com/graphic-cards/1792-59hz.html

 

[mushroomboy]

Ok hope nobody read the this cause it's an edit.

"[B]Make its initial size as big as the maximum size. [/B] Although this  will cause the Pagefile
to occupy more HD space, we do not want it to  start off small, then having to constantly
grow on the HD. Writing large  files (and the Pagefile is indeed large) to the HD will cause a
lot of  disk activity that will cause performance degradation. [B]Also, since the  Pagefile only 
grows in increments, you will probably cause Pagefile  fragmentation, adding more overhead
to the already stressed HD.[/B]"

http://www.petri.co.il/pagefile_optimization.htm

Goes back to one of my ideas of the HDD having performance issues. 5G is a lot for a paigefile, and if it was made over time the files may not be close together. Since it is one of the hardest files to defrag you usually get stuck with it "as is". This is another thing you could look at, cause as time progressed you started seeing this problem, you remove AV and it helped, but it's still their. Which makes me seem to believe the disc isn't reading files as quick as it shood somewhere else as well. All back to performance, The larger the hard drive you get the more you have to think about performance because the farther those files can fragment.

 

[SquonkSC]

Hi mushroomboy,

Something I learned from an expert here, is that with enough ram (and 6gb of ram is more than enough), the pagefile just sits there.
It is not actually being used, and will only come into play in case of a crash,
to be able to create a dumpfile.
So changing it's location or shrinking it will have no effect what so ever on performance, let alone solve the OP's problem.

Greetings

Edit: FYI, I have the pagefile totally disabled, which I don't recommend for everyone.

 

[SquonkSC]

Ok hope nobody read the this cause it's an edit.

"[B]Make its initial size as big as the maximum size. [/B] Although this  will cause the Pagefile
to occupy more HD space, we do not want it to  start off small, then having to constantly
grow on the HD. Writing large  files (and the Pagefile is indeed large) to the HD will cause a
lot of  disk activity that will cause performance degradation. [B]Also, since the  Pagefile only 
grows in increments, you will probably cause Pagefile  fragmentation, adding more overhead
to the already stressed HD.[/B]"

How can I optimize the Windows 2000/XP/2003 virtual memory (Pagefile)?

Goes back to one of my ideas of the HDD having performance issues. 5G is a lot for a paigefile, and if it was made over time the files may not be close together. Since it is one of the hardest files to defrag you usually get stuck with it "as is". This is another thing you could look at, cause as time progressed you started seeing this problem, you remove AV and it helped, but it's still their. Which makes me seem to believe the disc isn't reading files as quick as it shood somewhere else as well. All back to performance, The larger the hard drive you get the more you have to think about performance because the farther those files can fragment.

The article you referred to is from 2003 when people had systems with 256mb ram.

This article can be thrown in the dustbin, because it doesn't apply for modern computers any more.

greetings

 

[sotorious]

The system looks suprisingly well although I did notice you didn't uninstall the 3d Steroscopic NVIDIA driver.

I also noticed your refesh rate is 59 Hz. Perhaps give this thread a read....Somewhere in the middle of it is a fix.

http://www.sevenforums.com/graphic-cards/1792-59hz.html

the 3d thing i was going to do it but i was going to read some into it but it slippped my mind
and that 3d stero thing is now gone.

i checked the hz it said 60 both on monitor and gfx settings, and it still says it now.

and i just now did it how they did it, i added a custom resolution and put it .01 higher just to be sure.

 

[H2SO4]

...
and i just now did it how they did it, i added a custom resolution and put it .01 higher just to be sure.

Do you still get this "stuttering" symptom presently? If so, are you willing to try following some instructions to log data in order to understand it better?

 

[sotorious]

so far i havent got any stuttering, but i still haven't done a satisfying amount of testing i been a bit busy today, but as of tonight i will be doing more testing and report back.

yes i will be willing to cooperate whatever it takes to get rid of this mini beast

i could even start the logging now if you would like,

 

[lnxtinman]

i struggle to figure out why some1 playing a game online would have so much stuff running behind the game......does it do it in single player and did you turn off multi-core? you have way too many things running in the background....also, what kind of internet connection do you have?

I struggle to figure out why anybody would "turn off multi-core"? Can you explain that in more detail?

if you read steam forums and the stutter problem...this seems to be the only fix. just because its a setting...doesn't mean it works. i know it fixed my stutter prob. when i turned it off.

 

[sotorious]

i struggle to figure out why some1 playing a game online would have so much stuff running behind the game......does it do it in single player and did you turn off multi-core? you have way too many things running in the background....also, what kind of internet connection do you have?

I struggle to figure out why anybody would "turn off multi-core"? Can you explain that in more detail?

if you read steam forums and the stutter problem...this seems to be the only fix. just because its a setting...doesn't mean it works. i know it fixed my stutter prob. when i turned it off.

yea as of earlier i turned it off so im going to be doing some testing with it off, and if it happens again then we def know we have a problem.

 

[Frostmourne]

Uninstall your drivers, run driver sweeper in safe mode, then install the newest ones - including chipset drivers.

 

[H2SO4]

so far i havent got any stuttering, but i still haven't done a satisfying amount of testing i been a bit busy today, but as of tonight i will be doing more testing and report back.

yes i will be willing to cooperate whatever it takes to get rid of this mini beast

i could even start the logging now if you would like,

There's no point doing detailed logging if the problem is not happening currently. If it does come back, despite the steps which have already been suggested (by others), let us know.

 

[sotorious]

well 30 mins here 40 mins there and everything has been looking ok, no common stutter, but keep an eye out for this thread, i will report back as soon as it happens so we can take it a step further.... just incase it does not happen again i want to say i love you guys and thanks for all your help.

 

[sotorious]

ok i think i am ready for some testing that you wanted me to go threw..

let me explain why, the stuttering that i had before is gone... there is a new type. its almost like a lag type thing and i cant explain it in detail. if you guys will be kind to put me threw the instructions of doing what you wanted me to doing for further testing im READY.

for some reason now i think it might have to do something with my sound it now crackles from time to time, i have a tf2 demo if you guys want me to upload to kinda show you what its doing.

I also get these quick freezes in the new codmw2 so i dont think its only valve games anymore.


http://rapidshare.com/files/306277628/lagfreeze.rar

there is a demo you can see some parts where i kinda get stuck for a split second.