ENTIRE HDD Erased!

I buy 10 pack licenses for 149.99 - you can't get anti-virus protection these days for 15 $ per computer ..

Au contraire :huh:

You'll find many of the experts around here consider the free AV solutions superior in every way.

After doing 100+ installs of Avast free home with no viruses or issues, it is hard to seriously consider a bloaty paid solution which is approached as an infection to remove, and even requires a special removal tool like malware.

Superior until you have to remove a infection , so with your 100 + installs now many infections have you had ? Sorry but for the business I can not afford to have ANY infections .. Everyone to him or herself but I feel comfortable using the Norton 2010 anti-virus / spyware programs .. Bloaty - is that even a word ?? Maybe Bloated ??
 

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It dawned on me that businesses can't use free solutions AFAIK. Sorry :(
Businesses shouldn't depend on free AV products. Businesses "need" centralized AV products which can be controlled and updated by the IT staff.
 

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I look after 30 computers and I have them running like a well oiled machine now , all are limited access and I can see what every computer is trying to access . Stop problems before they happen ..
 

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Businesses shouldn't depend on free AV products. Businesses "need" centralized AV products which can be controlled and updated by the IT staff.

I second this quote. No matter how small.
 

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Stock Intel Cooling
Are you trying to recover files from the same hard drive that your OS resides on?
 

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I had used Norton a few years back and did dump it because of the heavy load on the system. However I Beta tested Norton Internet Security 2010 and it is indeed a decent solution with a very small footprint and at least in Arizona I can pickup Norton for less than $20 and NIS 2010 also has more to offer than just protection. My father was using AVG and was swearing by it until his computer got infected bad. Spent hour trying to clean it out. Better to spend a few bucks for the piece of mind and security to handle the more sophistocated malware and crap that is out there.
 

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All this talk of Anti-virus programs, and how vital they are (and this thread clearly shows that), yet i don't run a real-time AV scanner, am i being stupid here? Because, i have never caught a serious infection, i just take basic steps to avoid it, like:
- A big hosts file
- Use a limited user account with UAC turned to paranoid
- Autorun off for all drives/devices etc...
- Before opening any executable file, or file that could harm my computer with admin rights, i use FileAlyzer to generate its md5/sha1 hash and search for it on www.virustotal.com. Example of what i found in my friends computer:
Virustotal. MD5: aae219d4e703051d60351f73ca288d1d
- Use common sense, a 54kb .exe file with no icon is not to be trusted ;)
- Avoid all "cracks" and "keygens", if i need one i run it in a virtualbox.
- USE LINUX FOR DAILY WORK/INTERNET BROWSING, and go to Windows when games don't run properly in Wine :D.
I scan my computer once every 2-3 months with several AV's (KAV, Avast, Malwarebytes, Spybot-S&D, ), and it never finds anything other than some cookies and "possibly unwanted" apps.

I've always felt anti-virus products just slow your computer down so much and get in the way with updates and messages and this and that, and some are so heavily tied-up in the OS that if the AV fails the whole OS fails as well(same goes with firewalls!).

So my question is, is this good enough, or will i burn myself on it one day like the thread starter?

Edit: Happy new year everyone! :party:
 

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Everybody makes their calculations based on experience. Just the way you present it sounds like you do more thinking about this than the average person, so your decision is at the very least well thought-out.

If you need to add an AV, I find that adding Avast home free is the closest thing to running as light as having no AV at all.

Backup an image and files on each machine to an external used for that purpose.

And no, I don't think you'll burn yourself like OP because you say you avoid those kind of sites.

Happy New Year to you, too!
 
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[/QUOTE]I'm a computer power user since '99(everythign that I used since '99 to 2007 so far was cracks and keygens)[/QUOTE]

Dude If u were a power user where is your backup drive?
Also when u download torrents always check the comments before downloading
 

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I'm a computer power user since '99(everythign that I used since '99 to 2007 so far was cracks and keygens)[/QUOTE]

Dude If u were a power user where is your backup drive?
Also when u download torrents always check the comments before downloading[/QUOTE]


Until 5 yrs ago the only purpose of my pc was to sell CD/DVD's with games, music, different software to the people in my small city, because I was one of the few people in my area who had an dial up internet connection, yes it was illegal, no one knew back then how to buy or download software. I had my fair share of crack's keygen's, which I scan every time, there s times when the AV finds something in a crack keygen but they are harmless. I download only from private ROMANIAN trackers, where everything is verified, there hasn't been one time that a file from my private trackers was infected, in change, in the few times I had to download smt from piratebay, mininova etc there was always something hidden somewhere if I didn't read the torrent comments.

Anyhow the point is that like 4 yrs ago I stopped doing that kind of business because people started to have access to internet and so on, I've been of the 3 IT guys of my city (more like village 5500people) for like 8 yrs. Where I want to get is that I can assess threats, my surfing is based on habit(long hosts file etc, trusted sites, even trusted keygens, ironic), since I started web development(~3yrs) I stopped using all the websites I used in the past, and using only my preferred software that was previously checked for av and burned to dvd.

The probability of me getting infected, having all the knowledge, taking some precautions,with my data on a separate partition/hss on which nothing else was copied, only visiting KNOWN websites(be they keygen websites and so on), IS VERY SMALL. I've been meaning to backup everything on DVD the past 5-6 months, but one job after another I completely forgot, anyhow 60-70% of my projects are on DVD's and will work with them only under MacOSX Snow Leopard.

The story sucks and it's wrong, but I don't want to hear, aaaaa you're using cracked software, it was my Choice given the economy here in Romania, and I got around knowing very good which cracks and keygens to avoid. IF what I got in my pc was because of using keygens, than yes, I deserved that. Yes, now I can actually afford to buy SOME software, like windows license and so on. It is really hard to be standing on your feet here with a firm, we all make compromises, I make the software ones, you on the other hand who are able to buy software make other sort of compromises on different fields.

I never made EXTERNAL backups(besides the software I use) because I never lost anything of importance, and yes, actually that is my biggest err so far. But actually there's no harm done, it is another well learned lesson, 3 weeks of no activity which costed me spending my holidays in front of the pc, not skying with my gf and friends.

And yes, I used paranoid security measures in the past, but given the fact that I don't download new software on a daily basis, I only work with a few programs, nothing new comes in, using W7, atm the only things that I download from torrents is music, movies and some games(only RELOADED, RAZOR 1911 and SKIDROW), NO SOFTWARE, I have loosen most of the security paranoia, and it served me well for 3 yrs.

Pardon my bad English, and let's hope for the best to come.

and, have a HAPPY NEW YEAR all of ya~!!!!

(I truly hope no further flaming comes out of this)
 

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And may you have a Happy, Healthy, Safe-Surfing New Year!

Thank you for the potent reminder of the how economic conditions around the world can affect internet security.

If you are one of those averse to the system drag caused by typical AV suites then try Avast free Home, which is the closest I've found to having no AV system impact at all.

You'll keep it busy, but it can keep up.
 
To Hakon,,,,

While yes, all the things you do (from your list) are A1 practices.
I wouold say you are probably ok to get away with out AV, however, all it takes is one missed to cause massive problems.

So as long as you have good back ups, then you should be fine.
But for the majority of others, who are not so diligent, we should still be recommending they run AV and keep UAC enabled..
 

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EVGA GTX 570 HD SC (012-P3-1573-KR)
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On-Board
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Samsung 226BW
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Corsair TX750W
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