So, whats happened to the GTX 470/480

[Zen00]

The thing is, if there is no significant calculations differences between the ATI and Nvidia cards then data centers and such are going to go with ATI all the time. In those sort of instances power usage and heat are more important than speed.

 

[ThePizzaMan]

PizzaMan, don't compare a single GPU card to a card that has two GPUs. The GeForce GTX480 IS the fastest mono GPU card. Not by a big margin, but it is. The card has early problems such has overheating and noisy but I'm pretty sure that nVidia partners will be able to make a decent card without being too noisy and overheating.

Anyway, the day that this GPU will be on a double GPU card, it'll kick the Radeon 5970's posterior.

already admitted it was the fastest mono card, but it is still the second fastest single card.... and with six extra months they should have been able to get a little closer... but all in all nice card (wow can't believe i said that...) hm i wouldn't mind seeing one of these watercooled and oc'd just to see what it do

 

[Zen00]

You can, just costs about $150 extra from EVGA.

 

[Everlong]

The one thing that I find scary about these cards is that in almost ever review they managed to get the cards up into the mid 90's, and seen mentioned the card is OK up to 105°C 9 I can remember an old AGP 6600 GT I had that would run that high due to the bridge chip, but its threshold was 120°C), won't take much in the way of dust or summer heat to start pushing them close to the threshold.

Guess for those that are looking at getting one, I can see lots of cleaning and AC for the computer room.

Nvidia always had the hotter cards though, like the GTX275 and 285 were reading high 80s, even the 8800GT could hit 88C and that was still the most popular card around.

 

[ciphernemo]

Nvidia always had the hotter cards though, like the GTX275 and 285 were reading high 80s, even the 8800GT could hit 88C and that was still the most popular card around.

The high-end 4000 series models from ATI ran hotter than comparable NVIDIA cards (ie: 4870 X2). But I do agree about the 8800 GT, as that's a hot-running NVIDIA card.

My GTX 295 Co-Op is idling right now at 44C for each GPU with auto fan speed. When gaming, it gets maxed at about 61C with 70% fan speed manually set for Star Trek Online, and maxed at 59C with 70% fan speed manually set for Dungeons and Dragons Online. Similar temps for Lord of the Rings Online and even lower temps for EVE Online. And my dual GPU 295 is supposed to be more difficult to cool than a single GPU card like the 280 or 285.

Point is, don't run your fan at auto speeds.

 

[thefabe]

Evga's water cooled card EVGA | Articles | Pure Adrenaline Meets Visual Bliss Fabe

 

[Zen00]

Here's some very revealing information.

PC Perspective - Benchmarks with 3-Way SLI on the new GTX 480, we salivate

Seems that the 5970 scales better than the 480, two 5970's beat 3 480's! Seems that anyone considering multi card rigs should go ATI, this doesn't bode well for use in the data center market either for Nvidia.

 

[ciphernemo]

Seems that the 5970 scales better than the 480, two 5970's beat 3 480's! Seems that anyone considering multi card rigs should go ATI, this doesn't bode well for use in the data center market either for Nvidia.

That makes sense to me, since CrossfireX seems to be a much more robust and flexible multi-GPU bridge than SLI. SLI still feels like it's stuck in the days of the original Crossfire design. SLI still works well for two cards or two GPUs, but I know that its performance sees extremely diminishing returns with 3 or more. But that's just my experience and benchmark memories. I have no idea what the processing/design differences are between the SLI and CrossfireX bridge.

 

[Everlong]

Here's some very revealing information.

PC Perspective - Benchmarks with 3-Way SLI on the new GTX 480, we salivate

Seems that the 5970 scales better than the 480, two 5970's beat 3 480's! Seems that anyone considering multi card rigs should go ATI, this doesn't bode well for use in the data center market either for Nvidia.

You can't really predict how well a card's computational power, for use in places such as a data center or research, from looking at gaming benchmarks really though.

 

[vatz]

It might run hotter than the hindenburg and be a PSU whore but im still gonna get me one

Nvidia has kept me gaming since i got my first pc with only 1 card giving me issues which was a 8800GTX that might be fixable. On the other side ATI have had 2 cards die on me.

On a side note the ATI fan boys should like this video YouTube - jinx265465654's Channel

 

[ThePizzaMan]

It might run hotter than the hindenburg and be a PSU whore but im still gonna get me one

Nvidia has kept me gaming since i got my first pc with only 1 card giving me issues which was a 8800GTX that might be fixable. On the other side ATI have had 2 cards die on me.

On a side note the ATI fan boys should like this video YouTube - jinx265465654's Channel

and what were those two ati cards?

 

[Zen00]

I guess I should mention that the 480 was the only card that could run Metro 2033 at full graphics acceleration.

 

[vatz]

It might run hotter than the hindenburg and be a PSU whore but im still gonna get me one

Nvidia has kept me gaming since i got my first pc with only 1 card giving me issues which was a 8800GTX that might be fixable. On the other side ATI have had 2 cards die on me.

On a side note the ATI fan boys should like this video YouTube - jinx265465654's Channel

and what were those two ati cards?

A 4650 and a 3850 both gave me nothing but head aches. Ill give that I got the 3850 used so it could have had somthing to do with it. But I got it from a very good friend whos comp was running fine with it before I took it from him. but the 4550 was brand new at the time, It died on me 2 months later. I swaped it out for a pair of 7600gt's that I got for £25 each from a computer fair and they ran like a dream.

 

[Zen00]

Here's some more information on the suggested PSU if you're going to be getting a 480.

PC Perspective - Looking at the higher end of the PSU wattage scale

 

[vatz]

My psu should be able to run it ok. If it doesnt ill kick the f**ker down the garden after what I paid for it lol

 

[Zen00]

900W would probably be the minimum for an SLI of two.

 

[ThePizzaMan]

It might run hotter than the hindenburg and be a PSU whore but im still gonna get me one

Nvidia has kept me gaming since i got my first pc with only 1 card giving me issues which was a 8800GTX that might be fixable. On the other side ATI have had 2 cards die on me.

On a side note the ATI fan boys should like this video YouTube - jinx265465654's Channel

and what were those two ati cards?

A 4650 and a 3850 both gave me nothing but head aches. Ill give that I got the 3850 used so it could have had somthing to do with it. But I got it from a very good friend whos comp was running fine with it before I took it from him. but the 4550 was brand new at the time, It died on me 2 months later. I swaped it out for a pair of 7600gt's that I got for £25 each from a computer fair and they ran like a dream.

hm.... must have got a faulty card, happens on both ends

 

[LightReflection]

Here's some more information on the suggested PSU if you're going to be getting a 480.

PC Perspective - Looking at the higher end of the PSU wattage scale

750W MINIMUM?

Absolutely ludicrous.

 

[ThePizzaMan]

Here's some more information on the suggested PSU if you're going to be getting a 480.

PC Perspective - Looking at the higher end of the PSU wattage scale

750W MINIMUM?

Absolutely ludicrous.

i'll agree to that..... especially since i could run a 5870 (probably a 5970) on my ultra psu.... (that i LOVE btw )

 

[Everlong]

Inno3D have created a custom GTX470:

Custom designed GeForce GTX 470 card by Inno3D | SITEX 2009 | VR-Zone | Gadgets | PC Enthusiasts

Main differences are the PCB, which with no details, might be a bit thicker than the stock one, some power regulation circuitry changes and the cooler has had a revamp. As you can see it's got the heatpipes like the 480 has, and the actual heatsink is lightweight aluminium with fins, instead of just a solid slab of metal, so this card so be a bit cooler than a stock 470.

If Nvidia are letting partners modify and design their own actual cards, then hopefully a few other companies will try do the same.