What don't you like about Windows 7?

[lehnerus2000]

Windows Logo Key Shortcuts 2

Those descriptions refer to Vista and 7 (some of them also apply to XP).
The red ones are specific to Windows 7.


If you have changed the "Power" button function in the "Start Menu", then this shortcut will perform that action (instead of Shutdown).
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Logo key [/FONT][FONT=&quot], →, Enter[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Shutdown

[/FONT]I've edited the original post, to correct the error/omission.

 

[mitchell65]

Those descriptions refer to Vista and 7 (some of them also apply to XP).
The red ones are specific to Windows 7.

In your list I think the Logo Key + E will open "Computer" not Libraries in Windows 7 and XP (My Computer)!

 

[cbleman]

Hammerhead's "third party file manager" says it all really. With all the free (not even paid for) file managers that offer a million more features than Explorer isn't it about time Microsoft started implementing these features themselves? If someone else is doing it better - catch up. Geez that's not rocket science. And what these other file managers are doing isn't rocket science either - it's not like it's terribly hard stuff that Microsoft is unable to do.

Batch file/folder renaming is one of the biggest peeves I have with Windows and always have. It's one of the few instances when I use another "third party file manager" and it bugs the heck out of me that I have to.

Not being able to decide for myself, me, the user, what I want to have on my Explorer toolbar is another one. Why would I want to have Burn available for every file I click instead of a Delete button? Yes you can add it to the toolbar with a registry tweak but if it can be done in the registry it should be offered in the GUI so people don't have to go there.

And that's probably the thing that peeves me the most - there should be much more user customisation available across the board. And the customisations that can be done should be easier to get to. If there are so many things that can be changed via the registry or other 'hacks' then why not put them in a GUI? If the features are accessible but 'hidden' what's the point of that?????? Adding new features is great but taking old ones out should be done as little as possible and let people have the choice. And 'hiding' them is just dumb. One of the biggest gripes I've seen posted on the net is the lack of a Classic Start Menu option. Apparently Microsoft's answer to people wanting one is "the Classic Start Menu is outdated - move on". Fine attitude that. Microsoft make too many decisions about how I use my computer.

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I second that.

 

[cbleman]

A Mail Client for me, i don't want to go down the live route

Thunderbird

the threads about what you don't like about win 7, not other software to add on to it to make it work, like i said in another post.


i've tried TB, didn't like it much, OE/WM was nice and simple, was thinking about upgrading my mums PC to win 7, she's 71 and trying to get her to work another email program would probably be too much for her even when i think it's just a bit too busy/complicated to use

A mail client used to be part of the OS. It's REMOVAL is morned by some.

 

[cbleman]

oh another thing. the stubborn side panel of the windows...why must i chose from only two options...i really don't want this new "library" thing there...and i certainly don't want to open my pin-up of "my computer" only to find the damn library again...i don't use that thing...why are they trying to annoy the hell out of me......

If you took the time to give the libraries a chance, you might just like it. I was skeptical at first, but I definitely appreciate them now.

I don't complain about Libraries. A lot of people like them. If they do... keep them in. I played with them, but don't like or use them personaly. I disabled them and Prefer they stay that way. Not everyone will like or use all the apps/functions included in the OS. I guess that's the "P" in PC.

 

[Bob7772]

Yeah, and what's up with all these colors? Nobody really ever needs more than 16 colors anyway, right?

You can turn that off, you know...or get a different skin. Hehe. I want to see the functional B&W win color scheme, that isn't just a monitor or video card setting.

 

[lehnerus2000]

Thanks mitchell65

Those descriptions refer to Vista and 7 (some of them also apply to XP).
The red ones are specific to Windows 7.

In your list I think the Logo Key + E will open "Computer" not Libraries in Windows 7 and XP (My Computer)!

My bad!
Thanks mitchell65.

I've edited the original post, to correct the error.
With the Taskbar pinning in Windows 7, I don't use Logo Key + E very often (I use it a lot in XP).

 

[Dzomlija]

Hammerhead's "third party file manager" says it all really. With all the free (not even paid for) file managers that offer a million more features than Explorer isn't it about time Microsoft started implementing these features themselves? If someone else is doing it better - catch up. Geez that's not rocket science. And what these other file managers are doing isn't rocket science either - it's not like it's terribly hard stuff that Microsoft is unable to do.

Batch file/folder renaming is one of the biggest peeves I have with Windows and always have. It's one of the few instances when I use another "third party file manager" and it bugs the heck out of me that I have to.

Not being able to decide for myself, me, the user, what I want to have on my Explorer toolbar is another one. Why would I want to have Burn available for every file I click instead of a Delete button? Yes you can add it to the toolbar with a registry tweak but if it can be done in the registry it should be offered in the GUI so people don't have to go there.

And that's probably the thing that peeves me the most - there should be much more user customisation available across the board. And the customisations that can be done should be easier to get to. If there are so many things that can be changed via the registry or other 'hacks' then why not put them in a GUI? If the features are accessible but 'hidden' what's the point of that?????? Adding new features is great but taking old ones out should be done as little as possible and let people have the choice. And 'hiding' them is just dumb. One of the biggest gripes I've seen posted on the net is the lack of a Classic Start Menu option. Apparently Microsoft's answer to people wanting one is "the Classic Start Menu is outdated - move on". Fine attitude that. Microsoft make too many decisions about how I use my computer.

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I second that.

What peeves me the most are people complaining about things like the missing Classic Menu, the Customizable Explorer Toolbar, Non-Customizable Details Pane, Hidden Features with No GUI etc, etc, ad infinitum!

While some of the complaints are genuine (I, for one, don't miss the Classic Start Menu), what I don't understand is why are people complaining? If I remember correctly, the Windows 7 Public BETA Program was the largest public beta ever conducted by Microsoft, and testers had ample opportunity to voice their concerns or suggest changes.

And don't give me that "But I didn't want to try the beta" rant. With my circle of friends, I was the only one I know that had the guts to try the beta, but many of the suggestions I made via the "Send Feedback" link where made by my friend who where "looking over my shoulder".

My point is this: If not enough people asked for the Classic Start Menu to be included, then Microsoft had no reason to include it. and the same applies for other features also.

So don't go complaining now about something missing when you you had an opportunity to do something about it, but didn't act.

Although I must point out that I was hoping for some of these complaints top be addressed with SP1, which has turned out to be nothing more than a roll-up of the past year's updates. I guess we'll have to wait for SP2 then to be able to customise what info get's displayed in the Explorer Details Pane, or to be able to customize it's toolbar.

 

[kiwichick]

I thought I quite clearly stated that Microsoft have told people "the Classic Start Menu is outdated - move on". So plenty of people obviously did want it but Microsoft didn't care. And just because they ask for beta feedback doesn't mean they're going to pay any attention to it.

And isn't the whole bottom of this thread the fact that we don't have the CHOICE!!! All we want is to have the CHOICE.

 

[Dzomlija]

I thought I quite clearly stated that Microsoft have told people "the Classic Start Menu is outdated - move on". So plenty of people obviously did want it but Microsoft didn't care. And just because they ask for beta feedback doesn't mean they're going to pay any attention to it.

And isn't the whole bottom of this thread the fact that we don't have the CHOICE!!! All we want is to have the CHOICE.

Maybe not enough wanted it for Microsoft to change their minds? But as for Microsoft not listening, I disagree. One item in particular somes to mind, although a small item, shows that Microsoft did pay attention to feedback. In Windows Live Photo Gallery (when it was wtill part of the Windows Beta), hovering over a photo tag only showed the lowest-level tag in the tree assigned to the picture. In later BETAs, it was changed to show the entire tag: "Source Images\Friends\Odile" instead of only "Odile". So yes, after I sent my feedback, I got a positive response, as I did with many other items for which I sent feedback.

And I agree with you about choice. But speaking as a developer. Sometimes the timeline of a project does not allow for the addition of ALL the features and functionality we may want include. If the project release date is pushed back everytime users want a change or a new "feel good" feature added, then the project will never get released.

Or have you forgotten that we had to wait for XP Service Pack 2 to get such features as the Windows Firewall, and notifications about Anti-Virus software, etc?

The first release isn't always what the developer envisioned, and there will always, ALWAYS be something that someone doesn't like or agree with.

 

[merkat106]

Why is Task Manager not activated by Ctrl + Alt + Del anymore? Something else happens when I press that key combination and Task Manager has been given a new one Ctrl + Shift + Esc. Now who thinks it makes more sense to do that than keep the old Task Manager combination and give the new combination to the new feature? Dumb!!!!

Task Manager was always CTRL + SHIFT + ESC, Only in Windows XP was the default action for CTRL + ALT + DELETE (client systems) was it to open Task Manager. Otherwise it would open a Windows Security dialog like it does in Window 2000, Server 2003/2008, Vista, 7.

actually i got CTRL + SHIFT + ESC to work on xp & vista

 

[usbhubman]

Let's get negative.

I've been computing since 1979. I beta tested Windows from WFWG through Win2000. I presently run Windows 7 Ultimate. Do you think I will ever need to have someone log onto my machine to help me with a problem ? But with Ultimate I do get Remote Desktop.

My 78 year old friend who bought his computer from F/Shop and has Windows Home Premium installed needs help twice a week but of course HE DOESN'T HAVE REMOTE DESKTOP available ! So I have to access his computer via sneakernet every time he has a problem at the carbon based silicon interface unit !!

What moron dreamed that up ????

 

[derekimo]

Let's get negative.

I've been computing since 1979. I beta tested Windows from WFWG through Win2000. I presently run Windows 7 Ultimate. Do you think I will ever need to have someone log onto my machine to help me with a problem ? But with Ultimate I do get Remote Desktop.

My 78 year old friend who bought his computer from F/Shop and has Windows Home Premium installed needs help twice a week but of course HE DOESN'T HAVE REMOTE DESKTOP available ! So I have to access his computer via sneakernet every time he has a problem at the carbon based silicon interface unit !!

What moron dreamed that up ????

I've got home premium and I have remote desktop, according to this,

Remote Desktop Connection - Windows 7 features - Microsoft Windows

He would have to connect to you, instead of you to him though.

 

[MatthewHirst]

I think it's a quality operating system.

 

[Barman58]

Let's get negative.

I've been computing since 1979. I beta tested Windows from WFWG through Win2000. I presently run Windows 7 Ultimate. Do you think I will ever need to have someone log onto my machine to help me with a problem ? But with Ultimate I do get Remote Desktop.

My 78 year old friend who bought his computer from F/Shop and has Windows Home Premium installed needs help twice a week but of course HE DOESN'T HAVE REMOTE DESKTOP available ! So I have to access his computer via sneakernet every time he has a problem at the carbon based silicon interface unit !!

What moron dreamed that up ????

This is an age old (as long ago as XP anyway) annoyance with the home versions of the windows operating system. There is an easier way than sneaker net which is the remote assistance option which is available in the home versions. the difference between the two features is that the assistance is a collaborative system which is ideal for the fault finding scenario you mention, the full unattended RDP is I will admit less of a regular requirement for home systems although I can see the need for an ability to remote into the home system from work to collect files or check mail.

I am a long time user ofTeamviewer (free for personal use) which provides all the options you could need and runs on all windows systems (even from a web browser) and now includes chat VOIP and video capabilities

 

[cbleman]

Hammerhead's "third party file manager" says it all really. With all the free (not even paid for) file managers that offer a million more features than Explorer isn't it about time Microsoft started implementing these features themselves? If someone else is doing it better - catch up. Geez that's not rocket science. And what these other file managers are doing isn't rocket science either - it's not like it's terribly hard stuff that Microsoft is unable to do.

Batch file/folder renaming is one of the biggest peeves I have with Windows and always have. It's one of the few instances when I use another "third party file manager" and it bugs the heck out of me that I have to.

Not being able to decide for myself, me, the user, what I want to have on my Explorer toolbar is another one. Why would I want to have Burn available for every file I click instead of a Delete button? Yes you can add it to the toolbar with a registry tweak but if it can be done in the registry it should be offered in the GUI so people don't have to go there.

And that's probably the thing that peeves me the most - there should be much more user customisation available across the board. And the customisations that can be done should be easier to get to. If there are so many things that can be changed via the registry or other 'hacks' then why not put them in a GUI? If the features are accessible but 'hidden' what's the point of that?????? Adding new features is great but taking old ones out should be done as little as possible and let people have the choice. And 'hiding' them is just dumb. One of the biggest gripes I've seen posted on the net is the lack of a Classic Start Menu option. Apparently Microsoft's answer to people wanting one is "the Classic Start Menu is outdated - move on". Fine attitude that. Microsoft make too many decisions about how I use my computer.

.

I second that.

What peeves me the most are people complaining about things like the missing Classic Menu, the Customizable Explorer Toolbar, Non-Customizable Details Pane, Hidden Features with No GUI etc, etc, ad infinitum!

While some of the complaints are genuine (I, for one, don't miss the Classic Start Menu), what I don't understand is why are people complaining? If I remember correctly, the Windows 7 Public BETA Program was the largest public beta ever conducted by Microsoft, and testers had ample opportunity to voice their concerns or suggest changes.

And don't give me that "But I didn't want to try the beta" rant. With my circle of friends, I was the only one I know that had the guts to try the beta, but many of the suggestions I made via the "Send Feedback" link where made by my friend who where "looking over my shoulder".

My point is this: If not enough people asked for the Classic Start Menu to be included, then Microsoft had no reason to include it. and the same applies for other features also.

So don't go complaining now about something missing when you you had an opportunity to do something about it, but didn't act.

Although I must point out that I was hoping for some of these complaints top be addressed with SP1, which has turned out to be nothing more than a roll-up of the past year's updates. I guess we'll have to wait for SP2 then to be able to customise what info get's displayed in the Explorer Details Pane, or to be able to customize it's toolbar.

A GREAT many people didn't even know about the beata. some, If they heard about it they didn't understand exactly what it was. I don't use some functions/apps myself. Those people who do use a function/app however, (Especialy something that was removed from another OS.) deserve to be heard and considered. Even at this late date. Lets hope MS is not ignoring users because they missed the beata. If you don't complain, nobody will ever know your concerns.

I agree with you about SP2. Perhaps some of the peeves/issues/concerns that have been mentioned during and after the beata may be addressed. One can hope.

 

[WindowsStar]

If you would like classic view back just stop the Themes Service and you will get 90% of classic back. And as a bonus you will have one less service running.

 

[usbhubman]

snip ... snip ...

And isn't the whole bottom of this thread the fact that we don't have the CHOICE!!! All we want is to have the CHOICE.

Download Classic Shell from here.

It not only adds classic shell, it adds all the missing tools from the explorer tool bar !

Enjoy .....

 

[smsff7]

another thing I don't like about 7 ius adjusting volume in 7 dose not work as well as with XP

 

[PeteC]

??? Adjusting the volume works exactly the same in Win 7 as it did in XP. Now, you may have a problem as far as the driver in your sound card or keyboard, which may make for example a volume key on the keyboard not perform, but the mixer in Win 7 itself performs exactly the same as in XP and Vista.

If this is the case, you might try looking for a driver update to your keyboard, or sound card's software (you were not very specific in where you were having a volume setting problem?)