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Windows 7: 59Hz

24 Aug 2009   #191
DHAmoKK

Windows 7 RC x64
 
 

Hello

I also got that problem.

NEC 24WMGX³
NVidia GTX285
Win7 RC x64
Driver version 190.62

But it's not only the refresh rate but the resolution as well. A Vampyre Story has a fixed resolution of 1024x768. My graphics card sends the native resolution (1920x1200) to the monitor, putting the game in the middle surrounded by blackness. The monitor has quite good scaling capabilities but working with the native resolution the function isn't active.

When I set my desktop to 1024x768@75hz, exactly THAT resolution is send to the monitor and shown by it. Now I can use the monitors scaling ability.
When I set my desktop to 1024x768@59Hz, the monitor shows 1920x1200 and the desktop small in the middle of the screen.

So, the problem may have something to do with the doubled NTSC rate, already thought of something like that.

I cannot believe, that EVERY display manufacturer made the same failure in their EDID. I wonder, if the old way of calculating refresh rates will be implemented in the final version of Win7.

In that case, someone doesn't know, what I meant (becaus of crappy english, etc); here are two pictures:
This one shows, how it SHOULD look like:
Bild: sosollesaussehenwbkp.jpg - abload.de
That one over here shows, how it should NOT look like...
Bild: sosiehtesaus1ykl.jpg - abload.de

You see, the problem is not only the refresh rate but also the resolution in correlation to the refresh rate.


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24 Aug 2009   #192
omnimodis78

Windows 7 Professional x64
 
 

DHAmoKK i see that you mention something about scaling, but have you tried all the different settings? The refresh rate issue is happening to a lot people with different rigs, so it would seem that the only common denominator is the OS, but the resolution issue seems to be a bit more isolated. Have you tried installing the driver for your monitor?
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24 Aug 2009   #193
DHAmoKK

Windows 7 RC x64
 
 

Hello

@omnimodis78
Thanks for your answer and yes, I tried the "Standard PnP-Monitor" driver, the one from NEC and also the selfmade .inf-driver with the guide made by "baarod", though I didn't know, what entries are to change, because every setting in the EDID already were 60Hz.

I can set my desktop to 1024@60Hz without problems and hardware-scaling done by my monitor and it shows 59,9Hz. When I set it to 1024@59Hz, my monitor shows 59,8Hz and not 1024x768 but 1920x1200...

The following text shows, what Monitor asset Manager reads out of the .dat-file I created with Phoenix. Don't tell me, the difference we're all talking about is between "VESA" and "VESA STD", since I can set 59Hz to all other resolutions and got probems with scaling every time 59Hz is used.
Quote:
Standard timings supported
720 x 400p at 70Hz - IBM VGA
640 x 480p at 60Hz - IBM VGA
640 x 480p at 67Hz - Apple Mac II
640 x 480p at 72Hz - VESA
640 x 480p at 75Hz - VESA
800 x 600p at 56Hz - VESA
800 x 600p at 60Hz - VESA
800 x 600p at 72Hz - VESA
800 x 600p at 75Hz - VESA
832 x 624p at 75Hz - Apple Mac II
1024 x 768p at 60Hz - VESA
1024 x 768p at 70Hz - VESA
1024 x 768p at 75Hz - VESA
1280 x 1024p at 75Hz - VESA
1152 x 870p at 75Hz - Apple Mac II
1152 x 864p at 75Hz - VESA STD
1280 x 1024p at 60Hz - VESA STD
1600 x 1200p at 60Hz - VESA STD
1280 x 960p at 60Hz - VESA STD
1440 x 900p at 60Hz - VESA STD
1400 x 1050p at 60Hz - VESA STD
1680 x 1050p at 60Hz - VESA STD
1920 x 1200p at 60Hz - VESA STD
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24 Aug 2009   #194
GordonNT

 

Hey!

Got the problem, too.

Nvidia GeForce 9800 GTX+ with WHQL Driver 14.07.2009 (Release 190)
on
Win7 x64 7600.16385
and
Samsung 245B (Driver installed)

Switching to 60Hz causes BLUESCREEN! Anyone got the same effect with Nvidia Hardware?



I think we are all beta-testers until ServicePack1 :-/
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24 Aug 2009   #195
Duesco

Windows 7 Ultimate x86
 
 

Wow, I thought this 59Hz thing was just me.

All my specs are down there XD. My 9600GT is on the 190.62 WHQL drivers.
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24 Aug 2009   #196
omnimodis78

Windows 7 Professional x64
 
 

This is certainly a bug, and I think there's a consensus overall that it's OS related. I don't think there's a workaround because, well, it's a bug... Without a doubt Microsoft is aware of it, and I'm sure it will be rectified by the time the OS hits the shelves! Keep in mind that even the RTM 'version' has surpassed the RC build (7100).
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25 Aug 2009   #197
Ex_Brit

Win 7 Ult SP1/Win 10 Pro (all x64)
 
 

Why is this thread marked solved? It most certainly isn't.

I'm back to the "stuck in 59hz" situation here.
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25 Aug 2009   #198
MysterLee

Windows 7 Professional x64
 
 

I have the final release version of Windows 7 Professional x64 and I'm also stuck at 59hz. Is it possible that this can cause tearing? I've noticed that the top 1/5 of my monitor seems to lag behind the bottom so if i drag a window horizontally it tears rather badly. I didn't notice this before installing windows 7 so could it be related to the incorrect refresh rate?
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25 Aug 2009   #199
MysterLee

Windows 7 Professional x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by MysterLee View Post
I have the final release version of Windows 7 Professional x64 and I'm also stuck at 59hz. Is it possible that this can cause tearing? I've noticed that the top 1/5 of my monitor seems to lag behind the bottom so if i drag a window horizontally it tears rather badly. I didn't notice this before installing windows 7 so could it be related to the incorrect refresh rate?
I've just plugged in my old Windows XP PC which allowed me to set it to 60hz and the tearing is gone. So yes, this problem causes tearing on my monitor. Hopefully it'll be fixed soon or some one will discover a work around.
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25 Aug 2009   #200
smarteyeball

 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by omnimodis78 View Post
This is certainly a bug, and I think there's a consensus overall that it's OS related.
I'm sorry to say, but the consensus may be wrong. As of cat 9.8, ATI cards aren't affected which tends to suggest that it's a driver issue, not an OS one.
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