Browsers working on Win 7:

If you overlap the browsers there's a significant difference of about a full like and I did try a new profile. It's fine and I get a larger viewing window. I'll leave it be. Oh it's up to version 151.0.2 now. R3dfox doesn't update itself.
 

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I've been using r3dfoxESR (140.10.1 right now) and occasionally run into some webpages that don't work, and I try instead Firefox (my old 115.33.0esr) and it DOES work.

Here's an example where the BlueCruise USA map appears in Firefox but not in r3dfox. Can anyone here suggest a reason why r3dfox doesn't work, or how I might go about troubleshooting this? It feels like just a setting somewhere in the prefs.js, right?

https://www.ford.com/technology/bluecruise/bluecruise-map/

r3dfox:
image.png

Firefox:
image.png
 

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I don't know but it didn't work for me either on version 151. The site might not be designed for some subtle differences between the two. I found some access denied errors in the debugging console. Frankly I don't know enough about it and we can't know how the webpage is designed. You might try reporting it on the R3dfox git page for investigation and see if you can contact that website's support.
 

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    HP Pavillion Elite HPE-250f
    OS
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    FF of course.
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    Windows 2012 R2 Data center/Linux Mint
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    i3 9100 3.6GHz, 8M cache, 4C/4T
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    8GB 2666MT/s DDR4 ECC UDIMM
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You need to access the site's permissions and allow WebGL (the little icon to the left of the URL):

Permissions.png
 

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YmodemYNot said:
You need to access the site's permissions and allow WebGL (the little icon to the left of the URL)
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Wowza Y how have I never noticed that icon before??? I have puzzled over WebGL in the past and never gotten it to work, and thought I had inadequate drivers or hardware or something. Your tip worked straight-away.

MANY THANKS!!!
 

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Windows 7 Professional 64bit
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That worked for me. If only I knew what that website is for.:sarc:
 

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    8 gb
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    ATI Radeon HD 5770 1 gb ram
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    Alienware 25 AW2521HF & Viewsonic
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    WD blue 1 tb & 500 gb.
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    FF of course.
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My browser Firefox 115.36.0ESR is working fine and being updated regularly but that and Chrome 109.0.5414.120 now are starting to run into Access Denied errors only as of this year (2026) on many websites including Edmunds.com and Homedepot. I am not sure if Cloudflare or what is purposely blocking FF115 but it sure seems like it. I've been practicing some whackamole by contacting them individually but I think if more people complain and ask what in the actual heck they are blocking customers for then maybe they will knock it off. I have R3dfox but it needs configuring properly as right click menus aren't working right.BN Access.JPGcvs ACCESS DENIED.JPG
 

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Cskully said:
...I think if more people complain and ask what in the actual heck they are blocking customers for then maybe they will knock it off.
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Customer Service people will not have a clue what you are calling them about but if you scream and holler they might say something like "I'll pass your concern along to the web people" and then of course not do anything of the sort after you hang up.

I do see similar "Access Denied!" pages as you from time to time. Some day the interwebz are going to completely fail and no one will have any idea how to fix it.
 

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Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Dell Latitude E6540 Laptop
OS
Windows 7 Professional 64bit
CPU
Intel Core i7 4600M @ 2.90GHz
Motherboard
Dell Inc. 0CYT5F (SOCKET 0)
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16.0GB Dual-Channel DDR3 @ 797MHz (11-11-11-28)
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Intel HD Graphics 4600 (Dell) 2048MB ATI AMD Radeon HD 8790M
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Realtek High Definition Audio
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HP ZR30w (2560x1600@60Hz)
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256GB LITEONIT LMT-256M6M-41 mm SATA (SSD)
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I'm using R3dfox 140 ESR and I keep having it change the file association for pdfs inside R3dfox to open in my pdf reader rather than save it. This is annoying because it puts the file in temp folder without asking me where to put it. Has anyone had this happen? I change it and close R3dfox and it goes right back to open the application. FF doesn't do that.

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    HP Pavillion Elite HPE-250f
    OS
    Windows 7 pro/Windows 10 Pro
    CPU
    Intel i7 860 Quad core 2.8 ghz
    Memory
    8 gb
    Graphics Card(s)
    ATI Radeon HD 5770 1 gb ram
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Alienware 25 AW2521HF & Viewsonic
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x1080 & 1680x1050
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    WD blue 1 tb & 500 gb.
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    FF of course.
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    Dell Poweredge T140
    OS
    Windows 2012 R2 Data center/Linux Mint
    CPU
    i3 9100 3.6GHz, 8M cache, 4C/4T
    Memory
    8GB 2666MT/s DDR4 ECC UDIMM
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Viewsonic
    Screen Resolution
    1680x1050
    Hard Drives
    1 TB & 750 GB
    Other Info
    https://www.dell.com/en-us/work/shop/productdetailstxn/poweredge-t140?~ck=bt
townsbg said:
I'm using R3dfox 140 ESR and I keep having it change the file association for pdfs inside R3dfox to open in my pdf reader rather than save it. This is annoying because it puts the file in temp folder without asking me where to put it. Has anyone had this happen? I change it and close R3dfox and it goes right back to open the application. FF doesn't do that.

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I have the same issue. Ive given up on regular FF and now rock Pale Moon.
 

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    Pale Moon
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    Malwarebytes
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