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07 Feb 2015  
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Vista/Win7/Win8/Win10 (x86/x64)
 
 

...WinMail Bug List
(issues that may not able ever to be fixed)

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I previously made this list for Win7 in an effort to list all WinMail bugs in one place for easier reference, and now with Win8/10 on board I still keep it here, but continuously update it as new information is worked out.


Note   Note
The well known bugs in using WinMail inside of Windows 7/8/10/Server are:

Win7/8/10/Server. x86/x64
~ The Spam Filter function in WinMail does not work right.

~ Clicking the ''Working Off Line'' button will crash WinMail.

~ Spell Check works fine in most cases when using it regular, however on Win7 when ''Highlight'' spell-checking - if you ''Highlight'' any portion of an emails text and click Spelling to proceed - when it gets to the first misspelled word and you click to replace with the suggestion - WinMail will crash and you'll lose any 'unsaved' text written! You can read more detail of that Here and read also about how this Does Affect SpellCheck on Win8/10 too.

~ WinMail Newsgroup issue: When 'Replying' to a newsgroup post and after you type your message you click Send within the message, however like what I do where in Options I do not have it set to 'Send Messages Immediately' and so it will sit there in the Outbox until I click the main Send/Receive button and that's fine and how I prefer it - but it's here as it sits in the Outbox if I decide I want to edit something in the post before I press the 'Main' Send/Receive button, and I edit a few words in it and click Send within the message which puts it back in the Outbox - it is here that the bug shows up where it will put the newly edited message in the Outbox however the old one stays there too! ..and importantly if you do not delete the older one Before you press the main Send/Receive button, it will send Both!
Again, re-stated, if when Replying to a Newsgroup message, if you edit in the Outbox, it will duplicate itself anew and you must delete the older ones before sending or it will send both! If you edit it twice, three, or more times, then each time you edit it will create yet another newer post - and so you must delete All the older ones first or it will send them all.


Win8/Win10/Server. x86/x64
Advanced Tab issues...5/2018 Fixed!-Screenshot . . . . (Win7 x86/x64* worked fine already)
~ Going to the top tab of: Tools> Options> Advanced> This Advanced tab section is showing blank/empty with no entries listed = its settings are defaulted though.
~ Also the Maintenance tab on the bottom there - settings in this area are also affected
See this Screenshot showing these problematic settings (not often used anyway)

*On Win7x64 setups the Advanced Tabs are fine and work well on my setup, but there were some Win7x64 users years ago that said their Advanced tab was blank - if one of them is you please PM me so we can verify this and determine the variance to get you fixed! Although first make sure 'All' your WM programs folder file versions are the same as mine as shown in my screenshot above. If you want a copy of the files I use, you can download just the 'x64WM_ProgramsFolder.zip' from the bottom of This Post ..don't be concerned with the other procedures or downloads there are Not for Win7. To be able to replace your files though you will have to first Take Ownership (download the Step 1 file there) of your 'Windows Mail' programs folder first, to be able to replace your folder of files with the new.
~ Also, Compacting Database, see setting ''Compact every 100 runs'' which on Win7 x86/64 you can change 100 to any number you want and it will work on Win7, however on Win8/10 x86/64 any changes 'won't take' after you click apply and reverts back to 100...5/2018 Fixed! ...FWIW though, you also can use this little self-run program (WMUtil) below made by MS MVP Steve Cochran to Compact them for you manually. This program 'sometimes' may also help in repairing 'Message Store' database corruption (but actually it's even better to already have a Backup made to restore manually: see 'Create Backups' section below how to do it)
Anyway here's Steve's website: Windows Mail Utilities
Note: 3-2018: Steve Cochran recently passed over. Sending sincere regards to his family, r.i.p.
His website is off-line now, and so if it's okay with SevenForums management, I will 'Attach' the original zip of his program at the very bottom of this webpage, and within it I'll include a full-page screenshot I had previously made of his webpage where he explains his program.
Note: His program requires the older NET v3.5 enabled on whichever OS you're using it on.

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~ If your right click on a file and ''SendTo: Mail Recipient'' is not working, and your 'Make Default' button is grayed out in WinMail options, you can check if WinMail is set as the default email client via the Control Panel as shown in some of the settings in this Win7 Screenshot or Win10 Screenshot. On Win7 this gets taken care of automatically with running the Tutorial, but on Win8/10 you may have to do it manually.
You can always re-run the very Latest Tutorial operation again to reset it, if applicable.
WinMail on Windows 7
WinMail on Windows 8/10

~ If you have any other email clients installed along side with WinMail that are causing conflict, then it might be necessary to uninstall those other clients to resolve these conflicts.

To get around some of these other anomalies that have no resolution or fix, just don't use that function. However if you absolutely need any of those functions that have no resolution for ..then consider it's time to move on to a supported email client.

Note: Do yourself a favor - Create Backups !!!
Now I know on the bottom of the Page 1 WinMail tutorials on Both the Win7 & Win8/10/Server write-ups, there is a link to ''How to Backup and Restore Messages in Windows Mail," that's fine for what it is, however for 'WinMail to WinMail' setups, I much prefer to do it this way for a number of reasons I won't get into here.
What I prefer is if/when you have an already fully setup WinMail client with all options and settings done, then, be sure to create the proper backups so you can easily recover from message-store corruptions (instead of losing everything) and/or you can also Transfer it to another computer, and even Transfer to different OS's your entire WinMail setup, right back to exactly how it was on the source the day you created it, without the need for importing which never gets things exactly right anyway. This is a direct backup, and assumes you are using the default message store location folder.
Backup/Restore Process ...for 'WinMail to WinMail' setups
On your latest already setup WinMail, right click and create a zip backup on this Message Store folder:
C:\Users\yourcomputername\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows Mail
..also referred to as: %USERPROFILE%\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows Mail
(which contains all folder setup structures within WinMail, all mail/news emails, all accounts, etc..)
AND
..also make an export of this registry folder key:
(right click export this folder key on your latest WinMail setup that's 'already fully setup and optioned')
"HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows Mail"
(which contains all settings for WinMail GUI Layouts, all Tools> Options Settings, Columns, Rules, etc..)
More Info:
The reason for these backups is two fold: either a current WinMail repair, or transfer WinMail to new OS.
For instance when I do a fresh install of a new Windows 7/8/10/Server from an .iso or whichever, then to setup WinMail, after I run through the steps on its (corresponding OS) WinMail related tutorial ..and before I open WinMail, I will first delete what's there, and then zip extract the Latest message store folder from my most current source to my new install, and also export/merge the latest registry key from the most current source to my new install, and then when I open up WinMail it's already setup exactly like it is from its source, fully setup with All emails, Accounts*, Settings, complete GUI layout, etc.
*The only thing you'll have to do is enter the username/password of your mail and news server(s) and checkmark remember. You should know (have saved in txt file) what your server(s) name/pass are anyway. You can also use Tools> Accounts> Export/Import> .iaf files on each individual account to pick it up, but here we also have some info overlap to the rest of the process; do not mix other export/import procedures to prevent various duplicates ...everything else gets restored exactly as it was on your recent source - it's so elegantly simple to do. Will never need to use an Import button on a 'WinMail to WinMail' setup or transfer again.
There is nothing more comprehensive and completely accurate than this manual restore procedure.
This backup procedure is also a repair (replacement) if your message store ever gets corrupted - it occasionally does happen! No problem, you can simply delete the current message store folder, and copy a good one in it's place - and so obviously because of this 'Always' keep your backups current!
Be Careful ..when you Delete the current folder, then zip extract your backup of the Windows Mail message store folder in its place, it needs to be at the Exact Path ..be very sure when extracting you don't end up with two nested 'Windows Mail' folders there, or it'll break default path and corrupt. Also do NOT extract/copy/paste over current folder - you need to 'Delete' the old folder first, then place the new!
This same particular 'WinMail to WinMail' Backup Information applies to Vista/Win7/Win8/Win10 too.
Warning: This procedure may not work properly for those who have message store corruption on their source setups! It also may not work correctly for those who have moved their message store folder from its default location to another! So don't use it! A modified backup/restore procedure would have to be done (which has not yet been specified) or, on your new setup when you reinstate WinMail not using the Backup/Restore procedure, instead do the rest of the tutorial which starts a fresh WinMail and sets it up from scratch. Then if needed, you can also use the built-in import features, it's not as good, but certainly better than nothing. ...to be continued...
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This posting slot just serves as a place holder for this current bug list information, and is not necessary related to the old posts that are around it anymore since I update this list regularly as new information reveals itself. It's also a bug list for Win7/8/10/Server and even though this post is in the SevenForums, it's just where I posted it at the time; of which I guess it's as good as place as any since the WinMail on Windows 7 project first hit the scene in this very thread, and so it's only fitting.

warning   Warning
Do Not use the current Windows 7 WinMail Tutorial procedures on Windows 8/10, or vice-versa


information   Information
Windows 7: post your WinMail issues in the Seven Forums, go to Last Page of This thread Here

Windows 8/10/Server: post WM issues in the Eight Forums, go to Last Page of This thread Here



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