Solved 2 SSDs, one volume for games?

charkzilla20

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Hi everyone.
So currently, I use a 128gb Samsung 840 Pro for a C drive, and an 120gb 840 Evo for large games.
I would like to purchase a larger SSD for a C drive (maybe 256 or 512) when windows 10 becomes available, and turn the remaining two SSDs into a single volume for games. I know the concept behind Raid arrays, but I've heard some debate about whether or not it's beneficial to use SSDs in an array. I'm wondering if raid 0 ssds would have any visible benefits for loading large games (arma, battlefield, skyrim, etc), and if so, how to set it up.
And if not, is there a way I could simply extend the volume over the 2 drives so I can have a theoretical 248gb drive?
Thanks :)
 

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I've never seen my cpu go above 40c and my card above 60c even with intense games or benchmarks
I don't overclock anything, as I rely on this machine too much for other things to risk it getting fried.
RAID with SSDs have the problem of trim not working on some controllers.

SSD is already fast enough so you will probably won't see much improvement for game load times. And probably increase access time doing so.

What's wrong with 2 drives showing in Explorer? :) If you still want to have only 1 of them visible, you can create a folder in one of the SSDs and mount the other SSD to that folder (done through Disk Management).
 

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RAID with SSDs have the problem of trim not working on some controllers.

SSD is already fast enough so you will probably won't see much improvement for game load times. And probably increase access time doing so.

What's wrong with 2 drives showing in Explorer? :) If you still want to have only 1 of them visible, you can create a folder in one of the SSDs and mount the other SSD to that folder (done through Disk Management).

ok maybe not for speed.

i don't want to have 2 different drives visible, i'd rather have them be a combined volume
 

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I've never seen my cpu go above 40c and my card above 60c even with intense games or benchmarks
I don't overclock anything, as I rely on this machine too much for other things to risk it getting fried.
You would have 2 options:
- fake-hardware RAID from BIOS/IRST software (RAID0)
- software RAID from Disk Management (striping or spanning) striping is RAID0, spanning is just getting 1 large space.

As far as I can see, if you are using IRST drivers RAID supports TRIM. Software raid also supports TRIM.

I guess when the time comes, you can test it yourself. Start one of the larger games and note how long it takes to load into the game. And then setup a RAID and do the same test.
 

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You would have 2 options:
- fake-hardware RAID from BIOS/IRST software (RAID0)
- software RAID from Disk Management (striping or spanning) striping is RAID0, spanning is just getting 1 large space.

As far as I can see, if you are using IRST drivers RAID supports TRIM. Software raid also supports TRIM.

I guess when the time comes, you can test it yourself. Start one of the larger games and note how long it takes to load into the game. And then setup a RAID and do the same test.

ok i'll try them. Thanks :)
 

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EVGA GTX770 SC ACX 2gb
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Acer H236HLbid 23" ips 5ms GTG
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-128gb Samsung 840 Pro (C drive with OS)
-1tb WD Black 7200rpm 64mb WD1002FAEX (music, programs, files, etc.)
-120gb Samsung 840 evo (games)
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SeaSonic M12II 750watt
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Coolermaster HAF 922 all black, usb 3.0
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CPU: CM hyper 212 evo with push-pull Cougar Vortex fans
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CM Storm QuickFire TK (brown switch mechanical)
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I've never seen my cpu go above 40c and my card above 60c even with intense games or benchmarks
I don't overclock anything, as I rely on this machine too much for other things to risk it getting fried.
Nothing wrong with having a couple of drives showing :p
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They're all pretty much explained on the screenshot except for J: which is my Windows 10 SSD.
 

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Nothing wrong with having a couple of drives showing :p

lonely 10 gigs of virtual machine on drive L :(
lol

I thought that an SSD benefited from not being entirely full... That's why I was considering a raid array, instead of filling up both individually. And when dealing with games sometimes 25gb+, having a unified volume/raid is helpful to cram them in.
 

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I made her myself :)
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Windows 7 Professional
CPU
Intel i5-4670k
Motherboard
Asus Z87-Pro
Memory
G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 16GB 1600mhz (F3-1600C9D-16GXM)
Graphics Card(s)
EVGA GTX770 SC ACX 2gb
Monitor(s) Displays
Acer H236HLbid 23" ips 5ms GTG
Screen Resolution
1080p
Hard Drives
-128gb Samsung 840 Pro (C drive with OS)
-1tb WD Black 7200rpm 64mb WD1002FAEX (music, programs, files, etc.)
-120gb Samsung 840 evo (games)
PSU
SeaSonic M12II 750watt
Case
Coolermaster HAF 922 all black, usb 3.0
Cooling
CPU: CM hyper 212 evo with push-pull Cougar Vortex fans
Keyboard
CM Storm QuickFire TK (brown switch mechanical)
Mouse
perixx mx-2000
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21Mb/s down, 2Mb/s up (on a good day)
Antivirus
Malwarebytes and Microsoft Security Essentials
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Chrome
Other Info
Fans on case: front 200mm in, top 200mm out, x2 side 120mm in (cougar vortex), rear 120mm out

I've never seen my cpu go above 40c and my card above 60c even with intense games or benchmarks
I don't overclock anything, as I rely on this machine too much for other things to risk it getting fried.
It will still degrade performance, best to have 25% free space (either as free space or Over Provisioning) on each drive individually. Garbage collection and wear leveling is a drive feature.

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MSI GTX 970 Gaming 4G
Sound Card
Realtek On-Board HD 7.1 Audio / Logitech G35
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3xAcer GD245HQ
Screen Resolution
1920x1080
Hard Drives
Samsung 850 Pro 512GB SSD - OS /
WD Caviar Black SATA 3 - 1 TBx2 - Dynamic RAID 0 /
WD Caviar Green SATA 2 - 640GBx2 - Dynamic RAID 0 /
WD Caviar Green SATA 2 - 640GB - Internal Backup /
Seagate Barracude SATA 3 - 3TB - External Backup/ Sync
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HighPower 1000W
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Cooler Master HAF 932
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Noctua NH-D14
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Logitech G19
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100/4 Mbit Cable (100GB quota)
Antivirus
ZoneAlarm Extreme Security / MBAM Pro / MBAE Free / SAS Free
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IE 11 - Firefox - Chrome
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