64-bit - Blank screen on boot up, before login screen; slow startup

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Bonjour mes amis.

I recently have started getting the infamous black screen of death at my computer's startup, very similar to this fellow user's problem. Basically, Blank screen on boot up, before login screen; slow startup. The black screen lasts at least two minutes on average, before the windows login screen comes up. Everything else runs fine!

I think it might be my antivirus, Bitdefender Total Security 2013, and I've posted on their forums about it, and I've gotten responses from other users saying:

The Black screen issue is known by BD Support till now they have not able resolved that issue.
hope BD 2014 resolves the issue.

And the booting time issue is been solved.

However, I uninstalled Bitdefender and the problem still persisted. I proceeded to uninstall every program i could remember installing before the problem started, so before the start of June. This was painful because I updated all my software, so everything was listed as installed recently.
My startup time after removing all these software is attached below; 156 seconds, compared to before with the speed ranging from 200-500 seconds, with the worst at 472 seconds.

Although this sped about my startup, I still got the annoying black screen issue. I am sure it is a software issue because the black screen is present, but lasts no longer than about 5 seconds when starting in Safe Mode with Networking, and is present even int he low graphics.

What should I do? My specs are filled out, and I am going to to a fresh install of Windows 7, so right now i ma backing uo my C drive. Any other suggestions? Should this work?
 

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Asus
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Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit
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Intel Core i7 2600K @ 3.40GHz
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ASUSTeK COMPUTER INC. P8P67 REV 3.1 (LGA1155)
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ATI High Definition Audio Device
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7 Fan cooling system (Top, Side, Front, Back)
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Logitech Wireless Keyboard
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Logitech wired mouse
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Chrome
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HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GH22NS70 ATA Device
ELBY CLONEDRIVE SCSI CdRom Device

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Logitec audio stereo systems on each machine (x3)
Canon MG5250MFC
Router/modem TP-Link running WPA2SK
Thanks for the reply, but I did a fresh install of Windows 7 and it worked! The black screen is gone and my computer is super-fast! Look at this!:
 

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Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Asus
OS
Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit
CPU
Intel Core i7 2600K @ 3.40GHz
Motherboard
ASUSTeK COMPUTER INC. P8P67 REV 3.1 (LGA1155)
Memory
8.00GB Dual-Channel DDR3 @ 686MHz (9-9-9-24)
Graphics Card(s)
SMBX2450 (1776x1000@59Hz), AMD Radeon HD 6800 Series
Sound Card
ATI High Definition Audio Device
Monitor(s) Displays
SMBX2450 on AMD Radeon HD 6800 Serie
Screen Resolution
1776x1000 pixels
Hard Drives
932GB Seagate ST1000DL002-9TT153 ATA Device (SATA)
466GB Seagate ST500DM002-1BD142 ATA Device (SATA)
Cooling
7 Fan cooling system (Top, Side, Front, Back)
Keyboard
Logitech Wireless Keyboard
Mouse
Logitech wired mouse
Antivirus
None so far
Browser
Chrome
Other Info
Optical Drives
HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GH22NS70 ATA Device
ELBY CLONEDRIVE SCSI CdRom Device
Thanks for the reply, but I did a fresh install of Windows 7 and it worked! The black screen is gone and my computer is super-fast! Look at this!:
Great stuff now try the Optimise tutorial you will find it even quicker especially points 1 (if you can afford one LOL!!) 4,5, 7, 9, 15,16, 19 (CCleaner is good if you haven't got it - free) 20, 30 and 34.

They are the ones I always set and you lose some of the "bling" but for example - me transparency really is not that important.

Enjoy:)
 

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Desk1 7 Home Prem / Desk2 10 Pro / Main lap Asus ROG 10 Pro 2 laptop Toshiba 7 Pro Asus P2520 7 & 10
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Desk1 i5 3750K / Laptop i7 GTX 860M / Desk2 i5 2500
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Desk1 Asus P877-V / Desk2 Gigabyte H67 UD3H / Laptop ?
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Desk1 8GB (1866) / Desk2 16GB (1333) / Laptop 8Gb DDR3
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Desk 1& 2NVidia GTX 650 & Laptops on board Intel
Sound Card
Desk 1 & 2 -XONAR DG Realtek High Def audio Laptop
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Desk 1 Benq HD 2450 / Desk2 Philips 24" / Laptop 17.5"
Screen Resolution
1920x1080 D1 & D2 & Laptop 1
Hard Drives
Desk1 Samsung 120GB 830 SSD
Asus ROG 256GB 850 Pro SSD
Desk2 Samsung 840 256 SSD
Toshiba 120GB EVO
PSU
Desk 1 Corsair HX 1050/ Laptop ? / Desk 2 Corsair HX 650
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Desk 1 Cooler HAF XM ? Toshiba laptop / Desk2 Coolermaster
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Fans on all Desk1 -2 Desk2 - all Coolermasters 5 Laptop ?
Keyboard
Desk 1 MS Sidewinder X6 Desk 2 MS Sidewinder X 4
Mouse
Desk 1&2 - Gigabyte MS 900 gamer - laptop - Logitec wireless
Internet Speed
ADSL2+
Other Info
One other Desktop (tester) and spare Toshba laptop both with SSD's
Running Kaspersky 2016 ISS on all machines config'd identically
Logitec audio stereo systems on each machine (x3)
Canon MG5250MFC
Router/modem TP-Link running WPA2SK
That issue could have been due to heavily fragmented files, if during that blacked screen if your HD LED was staying red, that is a highly likely the cause.

Wipe and drop of fresh 7 would certainly fix that, welcome back to smooth fresh 7 speed! :D
 

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Self Built Custom
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Windows 7 Ultimate Retail Box (64-bit installed) + Service Pack 1
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AMD FX-8350 CPU v1.15 (or 1.0F) BIOS was required!
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MSI 890FXA-GD70
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8G CAS-7 G-Skill DDR3 @1333 (2 fours) [mobo nonOC max rec'd]
Graphics Card(s)
Radeon HD 7950 [3 gigs of GDDR5] MSI Twin Frozr model
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Realtek High Definition Audio (onboard mobo, ALC-889 chip)
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2 WS LED Monitors: One LG One Viewsonic
Screen Resolution
1920 by 1080
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SSD for OS: Samsung 840 Pro
SSD for VM and utilities: Adata SX900
7200 RPM SATA HDs for the rest: Hitachi and Seagate
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Corsair TX850 - 850W max, in service since August 2010.
Case
Thermaltake Armor A90
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Thermaltake Spin Q CPU Cooler, in service since August 2010
Keyboard
Logitech G11
Mouse
Logitech M310 Wireless
Internet Speed
100 Megabit broadband supposedly upgraded from 50 (Cable)
Antivirus
Bitdefender Internet Security 2014 suite
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Pale Moon 64-bit main, also IceDragon, Opera, and Maxthon.
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CompTIA A+ certified (220-800 series) in July 2013.
I WAS scratching my head with those "200-500" second restart times :) Keeping it clean and tight will keep you those numbers too.
 

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MSI GE72VR Apache Pro-416
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Windows 10x64 Build 1709
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Intel i7 7700HQ Kaby Lake
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Micro-Star Intl. MS-179B (U3C1)
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16 GB DDR4 @2400
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256 GB Nvme M.2 SSD

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Cooler Blast 4
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Steel Series
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Bit Defender Free
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Edge
Hiyya mate did you try the optimise stuff - am just curious to what the start up and run times are now:)
 

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Desk1 7 Home Prem / Desk2 10 Pro / Main lap A...Desk1 i5 3750K / Laptop i7 GTX 860M / Desk2 i...Desk1 8GB (1866) / Desk2 16GB (1333) / Laptop...Desk 1& 2NVidia GTX 650 & Laptops on board Intel
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Own build (new) Desk1 / Asus ROG Win 7 / Desk2 1st build
OS
Desk1 7 Home Prem / Desk2 10 Pro / Main lap Asus ROG 10 Pro 2 laptop Toshiba 7 Pro Asus P2520 7 & 10
CPU
Desk1 i5 3750K / Laptop i7 GTX 860M / Desk2 i5 2500
Motherboard
Desk1 Asus P877-V / Desk2 Gigabyte H67 UD3H / Laptop ?
Memory
Desk1 8GB (1866) / Desk2 16GB (1333) / Laptop 8Gb DDR3
Graphics Card(s)
Desk 1& 2NVidia GTX 650 & Laptops on board Intel
Sound Card
Desk 1 & 2 -XONAR DG Realtek High Def audio Laptop
Monitor(s) Displays
Desk 1 Benq HD 2450 / Desk2 Philips 24" / Laptop 17.5"
Screen Resolution
1920x1080 D1 & D2 & Laptop 1
Hard Drives
Desk1 Samsung 120GB 830 SSD
Asus ROG 256GB 850 Pro SSD
Desk2 Samsung 840 256 SSD
Toshiba 120GB EVO
PSU
Desk 1 Corsair HX 1050/ Laptop ? / Desk 2 Corsair HX 650
Case
Desk 1 Cooler HAF XM ? Toshiba laptop / Desk2 Coolermaster
Cooling
Fans on all Desk1 -2 Desk2 - all Coolermasters 5 Laptop ?
Keyboard
Desk 1 MS Sidewinder X6 Desk 2 MS Sidewinder X 4
Mouse
Desk 1&2 - Gigabyte MS 900 gamer - laptop - Logitec wireless
Internet Speed
ADSL2+
Other Info
One other Desktop (tester) and spare Toshba laptop both with SSD's
Running Kaspersky 2016 ISS on all machines config'd identically
Logitec audio stereo systems on each machine (x3)
Canon MG5250MFC
Router/modem TP-Link running WPA2SK
That issue could have been due to heavily fragmented files, if during that blacked screen if your HD LED was staying red, that is a highly likely the cause.

Wipe and drop of fresh 7 would certainly fix that, welcome back to smooth fresh 7 speed! :D

Many thanks! And I think I kept all my drives defragmented before, so that might not be it!

I WAS scratching my head with those "200-500" second restart times :) Keeping it clean and tight will keep you those numbers too.
Trying hard to keep them low, but they keep increasing! D:

Hiyya mate did you try the optimise stuff - am just curious to what the start up and run times are now:)
Sorry mate, I was busy installing the software I had back onto my new system. Now that I'm done, the boot time is about 2:17 minutes, even though I'm trying to keep it clean and tight. According to the data I've accumulated, the biggest time-suckers are "system," taking 32.2 seconds to boot up followed by "Windows Modules Installer (trustedinstaller.exe)" taking 23.8 seconds to start up.

I'm going to follow your other posts instructions now, and I will try to keep you updated! Thanks! :D
 

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Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bitIntel Core i7 2600K @ 3.40GHz8.00GB Dual-Channel DDR3 @ 686MHz (9-9-9-24)SMBX2450 (1776x1000@59Hz), AMD Radeon HD 6800...
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Asus
OS
Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit
CPU
Intel Core i7 2600K @ 3.40GHz
Motherboard
ASUSTeK COMPUTER INC. P8P67 REV 3.1 (LGA1155)
Memory
8.00GB Dual-Channel DDR3 @ 686MHz (9-9-9-24)
Graphics Card(s)
SMBX2450 (1776x1000@59Hz), AMD Radeon HD 6800 Series
Sound Card
ATI High Definition Audio Device
Monitor(s) Displays
SMBX2450 on AMD Radeon HD 6800 Serie
Screen Resolution
1776x1000 pixels
Hard Drives
932GB Seagate ST1000DL002-9TT153 ATA Device (SATA)
466GB Seagate ST500DM002-1BD142 ATA Device (SATA)
Cooling
7 Fan cooling system (Top, Side, Front, Back)
Keyboard
Logitech Wireless Keyboard
Mouse
Logitech wired mouse
Antivirus
None so far
Browser
Chrome
Other Info
Optical Drives
HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GH22NS70 ATA Device
ELBY CLONEDRIVE SCSI CdRom Device
Here's my startup time before applying these tweaks (AKA right now, fully set up):
 

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Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bitIntel Core i7 2600K @ 3.40GHz8.00GB Dual-Channel DDR3 @ 686MHz (9-9-9-24)SMBX2450 (1776x1000@59Hz), AMD Radeon HD 6800...
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Asus
OS
Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit
CPU
Intel Core i7 2600K @ 3.40GHz
Motherboard
ASUSTeK COMPUTER INC. P8P67 REV 3.1 (LGA1155)
Memory
8.00GB Dual-Channel DDR3 @ 686MHz (9-9-9-24)
Graphics Card(s)
SMBX2450 (1776x1000@59Hz), AMD Radeon HD 6800 Series
Sound Card
ATI High Definition Audio Device
Monitor(s) Displays
SMBX2450 on AMD Radeon HD 6800 Serie
Screen Resolution
1776x1000 pixels
Hard Drives
932GB Seagate ST1000DL002-9TT153 ATA Device (SATA)
466GB Seagate ST500DM002-1BD142 ATA Device (SATA)
Cooling
7 Fan cooling system (Top, Side, Front, Back)
Keyboard
Logitech Wireless Keyboard
Mouse
Logitech wired mouse
Antivirus
None so far
Browser
Chrome
Other Info
Optical Drives
HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GH22NS70 ATA Device
ELBY CLONEDRIVE SCSI CdRom Device
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